[Archived] Jordan Rhodes

[Mercer]

Obviously somebody's gotten to him then. This is a road we've been down many times before.

If fans think this is an issue which has blown up overnight, as GM thinks, then I think they are being naïve.

Should Rovers have seen this coming ? We will all have our views but what I think is chaos and in-fighting behind the scenes will not have helped.

I also think there is more than one club 'in' for Rhodes and he will have a choice.

[Majiball]

Hull, West Ham, Newcastle and Norwich.

Hull don't have the funds so unless we're looking to just sell, I can't see it being them. Maybe if Rhodes hands in a request.

West Ham want him and Carroll, we'll see how serious the porn boys are.

Newcastle, won't pay for Carroll and have sold Ba, quite possible but we'll see as if 15M is too much for him then about the same is surely too much for Rhodes? But they need a goal-scorer after Ba and Pardew is under the microscope, don't forget Carroll's issues are well known up north and maybe that's part of the reason they won't go higher.

Norwich I just can't see there chairman sanctioning that kind of out-lay on one player.

I'd favour West Ham and Newcastle, regardless of his Uncle being at Hull as they don't have the readies apparently. Hull will struggle next year massively even with Jordans goals and all he'll get are scraps and scraps at that level are nothing like as good as what he's fed off this year. If he gets over 10 he'd be doing well IMO but it won't be enough to tempt another team into paying the +15M Hull would then demand and he'll be back here next season. The move might actually be derogatory towards his career development. Anyway Rhodes has shown at Huddersfield he is prepared to be loyal and so I believe with the right words he could be persuaded to stay for one more year.

Personnally I don't think he'll move on, unless the rumoured issue is really bad and then I'd love to know how none of the staff saw it. Hopefully it's a resolvable issue and Bowyer can straighten things out and keep him here.

[chris_h]

Avoiding financial ruin aside, i cant see any benefit to flogging Rhodes. He scored for fun despite the best efforts of several managers to put him in a formation which didn't help him at all.

One of the top scorers in the league last year, we should be looking to build the team around him as opposed to bringing in 2 average plodders on high wages like Best or Campbell in the hope they can bag 15 or so goals each. Get the team set up and bring in the correct players to get the best out of Rhodes.

It isn't about what benefits us, it's all about the player's wishes and has been for a good few years now.

The avoidance of financial Armageddon is exactly why Rhodes' exit has been inevitable since he started banging goals in.

[blue_n_white99]

I would add Sunderland and Cardiff to that lot Majiball. No secret that Di Canio is looking at overhauling his frontline who were poor last season, Cardiff will need fresh ammo to have a hope of competeing in the PL.

On the Newcastle front, somebody in Europe (I forget who) is sniffing round Papiss Cisse, possible Rhodes would be an alternative if he leaves

[Majiball]

I would add Sunderland and Cardiff to that lot Majiball. No secret that Di Canio is looking at overhauling his frontline who were poor last season, Cardiff will need fresh ammo to have a hope of competeing in the PL.

On the Newcastle front, somebody in Europe (I forget who) is sniffing round Papiss Cisse, possible Rhodes would be an alternative if he leaves

I'm told Cardiff don't want him and Malkay's after value for money. New spine beckons but they won't go silly. Haven't got a clue about sunderland and who knows what they'll do but if jordan can't cope with a couple of 'issues' here I wonder what he'll do when the hand-grenades get thrown around by Di Canio.

[blue_n_white99]

I'm told Cardiff don't want him and Malkay's after value for money. New spine beckons but they won't go silly. Haven't got a clue about sunderland and who knows what they'll do but if jordan can't cope with a couple of 'issues' here I wonder what he'll do when the hand-grenades get thrown around by Di Canio.

Difference is Di Canio will look you in the eye when he frags you, not sure anything is that straight at Ewood any more.

[Majiball]

Difference is Di Canio will look you in the eye when he frags you, not sure anything is that straight at Ewood any more.

You'd like to think that within the playing squad and staff that occurs will occur with Bowyer about. Players wouldn't be so praising of him if he was un-trustworthy. The boardroom is the 'bad' place at Rovers and as long as Bowyer has that direct-line and they stay away, things should be fine. Rhodes will have had a couple of issues, he'll have voiced concerns to his trustees and surely one of them is family. His uncle etc etc then will keep on at him, slowly slowly chipping away until said issues become too much and jordan decides to leave. If I was Bowyer I would be moving very quickly to where ever Jordan is right now and having a chat asap and saying said issues will be resolved as one assumes Bowyer is not the issue.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn_rovers/news/10458752._/

And WBA as well.

if you had a choice it would be WBA all day, but the boing's have never really spent serious cash on players.

[ABBEY]

If fans think this is an issue which has blown up overnight, as GM thinks, then I think they are being naïve.

Should Rovers have seen this coming ? We will all have our views but what I think is chaos and in-fighting behind the scenes will not have helped.

I also think there is more than one club 'in' for Rhodes and he will have a choice.

are they still leaving ?

[blue_n_white99]

You'd like to think that within the playing squad and staff that occurs will occur with Bowyer about. Players wouldn't be so praising of him if he was un-trustworthy. The boardroom is the 'bad' place at Rovers and as long as Bowyer has that direct-line and they stay away, things should be fine. Rhodes will have had a couple of issues, he'll have voiced concerns to his trustees and surely one of them is family. His uncle etc etc then will keep on at him, slowly slowly chipping away until said issues become too much and jordan decides to leave. If I was Bowyer I would be moving very quickly to where ever Jordan is right now and having a chat asap and saying said issues will be resolved as one assumes Bowyer is not the issue.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn_rovers/news/10458752._/

And WBA as well.

if you had a choice it would be WBA all day, but the boing's have never really spent serious cash on players.

You'd like to think that within the playing squad and staff that occurs will occur with Bowyer about. Players wouldn't be so praising of him if he was un-trustworthy. The boardroom is the 'bad' place at Rovers and as long as Bowyer has that direct-line and they stay away, things should be fine. Rhodes will have had a couple of issues, he'll have voiced concerns to his trustees and surely one of them is family. His uncle etc etc then will keep on at him, slowly slowly chipping away until said issues become too much and jordan decides to leave. If I was Bowyer I would be moving very quickly to where ever Jordan is right now and having a chat asap and saying said issues will be resolved as one assumes Bowyer is not the issue.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn_rovers/news/10458752._/

And WBA as well.

if you had a choice it would be WBA all day, but the boing's have never really spent serious cash on players.

I don't doubt your right on GB and staff, I live next door to Curtis Hayley and his dad has nothing but good things to say about GB and his team, trouble is the board have fekked everything on a regular basis, and it has has been very public and very messy, the whole club has been painted in a tragic, ridiculous light since these cowboys took over, and following the court fiasco and unresolved issues from that, there is a justified argument that the unrest and pandemonium is far from over. Additionally the team were dire last season, with one or two exceptions, JR being one of them.

So as a young pro at the top of your game would you hang around the asylum or would you seek pastures new?

[Mercer]

are they still leaving ?

Two months to new season, speculation / events to ebb and flow but I am sticking with my view !

Worth another Stella on this fine summer's day !?!?

[Majiball]

I don't doubt your right on GB and staff Majiball, trouble is the board have fekked everything on a regular basis, and it has has been very public and very messy, the whole club has been painted in a tragic, ridiculous light since these cowboys took over, and following the court fiasco and unresolved issues from that, there is a justified argument that the unrest and pandemonium is far from over. Additionally the team were dire last season, with one or two exceptions, JR being one of them.

So as a young pro at the top of your game would you hang around the asylum or would you seek pastures new?

For me you've got to weigh up who what and where. I wouldn't join Hull, they're dead certs to go down and need a serious over-haul to compete. If it's true they only have around the 15M mark to spend and they spunk it on me? Well I wouldn't be convinced they'd stay-up at all, no matter what my uncle told me. Also if they go down and pay say 12M, then surely they'll want a profit. Could well mean I end up stuck back in the championship the season after next. New castle would be tempting good squad, spent some cash and not very likely to get down. If they bid I'd want to chat as doing well there means a european club next if I can score goals and they have a strong midfield. Norwich could get dragged in to a relegation battle but have a striker that Rhodes might do well with in Holt, but would they pay him the sort of money he's on here? Not convinced Norwich would put all there eggs in one basket and sign him. West Ham would appeal they'll most likely do well again next year and have a good manager who won't take them down. Would be keen to know who my partner would be at that club as that would be important as if up top on me lonesome I would know that wouldn't get the best out of me and may affect my form and future prospects. WBA, well I'd be very tempted on this one as Clarke has shown he's a good manager, I'd want to speak to them.

If the issues at the club are resolvable then I could be tempted to stay as if the team can be improved and to my benefit IE as Bowyers appears to be doing then given I can score 30-odd in a team that just punts it forward I reckon I could get 40-odd under the circumstances. If that happened I'd be confident that I'd either be in the prem with Rovers or one of the more established clubs would probably move for me. But Newcastle and WBA would be tempting as I can get that a year early. A lot of it depends on the issues at rovers as no-one on here knows what they are? Could be Bowyer for all we know, fitness? Lack of team spirit/unity as we have some rotten eggs? Who bloody knows but each and everyone of them is resovable, unless it's Bowyer. For me it's all about increasing my odds of getting where I would percieve I can play and that's in the top half of the prem and for me Hull don't do that. I'm just grateful that the clubs being linked aren't exactly flush and don't have a strong record of splashing the cash. We'll see what happens and lets just hope Shaw doesn't do another preston and flog our Nugent on the cheap. As we all know what happened last time Shaw did this.

[blueboy3333]

I wouldn't want to see him go but if does it should be for a minimum of £15m. He's got 4 years left on a lucrative contract. He's 23 and will only get better. He's a goal machine. He's English. If he did get a Prem move he'd be straight in the England squad.

[LeChuck]

I wouldn't want to see him go but if does it should be for a minimum of £15m. He's got 4 years left on a lucrative contract. He's 23 and will only get better. He's a goal machine. He's English. If he did get a Prem move he'd be straight in the England squad.

Not sure where to start with that one!

[blueboy3333]

Not sure where to start with that one!

have a go!

[blue_n_white99]

Not sure where to start with that one!

pick any spot, there are plenty of targets

[blueboy3333]

pick any spot, there are plenty of targets

crack on then smart arse

[LeChuck]

crack on then smart arse

The main one would be that he's got 8 caps and 3 goals for Scotland already.

[RibbleValleyRover]

I do wonder what these issues that have suddenly come to the surface are, are they just player specific or is there something else going on in the background? I suspect we will never know.

Rhodes clearly has a desire to play at the highest level possible, so he just needs to ask himself will Rovers get me there and if so how long would it take. If he feels the answer to the first question is no then he has to consider leaving. If it's that important to him and his development then he has to consider moving on, likewise if he feels Rovers won't get promoted in the next two to three years then he has to consider that as a factor as well.

I think he will move on, either at the beginning of the season or try and push for a move in January especially if Rovers are nowhere near promotion. With ever increasing player power if a player is set on a move it's going to happen, even at the biggest most successful clubs if a player wants out it will eventually happen. When he goes it's up to Rovers to use that money wisely to find a replacement.

[blueboy3333]

The main one would be that he's got 8 caps and 3 goals for Scotland already.

Haha, I just @#/? myself laughing! I'd forgotten about that!! Oh dear, i will return when my shame has subsided. I will be away some time...

[blue_n_white99]

I wouldn't want to see him go but if does it should be for a minimum of £15m. He's got 4 years left on a lucrative contract. He's 23 and will only get better. He's a goal machine. He's English. If he did get a Prem move he'd be straight in the England squad.

£15M never in a million years, any side that can afford it e.g top 6 JR wouldn't be an automatic first choice, at 23 you think he wants to sit on a bench, also does he fit the criteria Arsenal, Spurs etc. are looking for, no he doesn't, Hull etc. can't afford that much, besides if the player is that desperate to play in the PL he will force the issue, Rovers are currently losing a fortune every month, do you think they will say no to £8 - 10M.

Lucrative contract - JR could get more at a host of PL sides, particularly if he forces through a cheaper sale.

England squad - Rooney, Walcott, Sturridge, Wellbeck, Defoe, Carroll, you reckon JR is better than this lot, a lot of PL managers out there disagree, plus he's a jock.

smart arse out.

[LeChuck]

Haha, I just @#/? myself laughing! I'd forgotten about that!! Oh dear, i will return when my shame has subsided. I will be away some time...

I was hoping my more subtle first post might have got the old memory going! It happens to the best of us.

[West Yorks Rover]

Haha, I just @#/? myself laughing! I'd forgotten about that!! Oh dear, i will return when my shame has subsided. I will be away some time...

Just an idea old boy, perhaps you should resign the messageboard and re-join under an alias, pretty sure a few on here have done that in

their moments of embarrassment.

We all get our wires crossed at times, don't worry about it.

[blueboy3333]

£15M never in a million years, any side that can afford it e.g top 6 JR wouldn't be an automatic first choice, at 23 you think he wants to sit on a bench, also does he fit the criteria Arsenal, Spurs etc. are looking for, no he doesn't, Hull etc. can't afford that much, besides if the player is that desperate to play in the PL he will force the issue, Rovers are currently losing a fortune every month, do you think they will say no to £8 - 10M.

Lucrative contract - JR could get more at a host of PL sides, particularly if he forces through a cheaper sale.

England squad - Rooney, Walcott, Sturridge, Wellbeck, Defoe, Carroll, you reckon JR is better than this lot, a lot of PL managers out there disagree, plus he's a jock.

smart arse out.

smart arse

he'll defo go for £15m! You can trust me, i know my stuff!!!!

Apart from my shameful Scottish faux pas i meant that players on long contracts tend to command bigger fees.

Also, would Wellbeck,Defoe, Rooney or Walcott go to Hull, WBA, Wham? No. So lower level prem's club options are limited. Supply & Demand. Carroll better than Rhodes? WHam just bid £15m for him.

[broadsword]

Sunderland sounds a pretty good shout to me. They've still got a bit of wedge, no?

I could see that one happening.

smart arse i meant that players on long contracts tend to command bigger fees.

Only if the selling club is in a strong position. Rovers are in a very weak position. If Rhodes has the balls and dogs his heels in (nice mixed metaphor there), then Rovers won't have a leg to stand on (continuing the theme ...), and we'll get screwed to the wall on the fee. Won't matter about the contract, 'cos it won't be worth retaining a recalcitrant unmotivated player, and we'd no doubt rather take whatever cash is on the table at that point.

[LeChuck]

Sunderland sounds a pretty good shout to me. They've still got a bit of wedge, no?

I could see that one happening.

I dunno. He seems very similar to Steven Fletcher.

Fletcher was doing very well until he got injured. He's actually very similar to Rhodes in that he does nothing when he's not scoring. You definitely couldn't play the two of them together.

West Brom I could see if they can't have Lukaku for another season. Hull and Cardiff as well.