[Archived] Jordan Rhodes

[thenodrog]

They might be interested but are they prepared to pay the asking price of 12 - 15 million ? I have no doubt that if one of these clubs came in with a bid for around that price he will go but I'm not sure if clubs are prepared to pay that much.

Hull are obviously interested but Alan Nixon reckons they are no where near a deal and they are offering swaps. I can't see that happening.

West Ham are reported to have bid 16 million for Andy Carroll who is an established premier league striker who wouldn't be a gamble. Would they be prepared to also pay slightly less for Rhodes as well ? Or if they lost out on Carroll would they splash out that much on Rhodes to be their main striker ? I'm not sure.

Fulham are prepared to pay big for players but looking at the type of players they have bought for that amount I can't see them paying 12 - 15 for Rhodes. If they were to pay that amount I suspect they would want an established international player who has more experience.

Personally I don't see Rhodes as being a gamble but I'm not sure if teams like Hull, West Ham and Fulham would be prepared to pay that amount of money and that's why they are looking at players like Austin and Hooper who will be around the 4-7 million mark.

I have no doubt that bids will come in and I have no doubt that Rhodes wants to play in the Prem but he has 4 years left and we paid 8 million. Providing we don't let him go on the cheap (there is no evidence of Venkys doing this) I think there is still a decent chance he will stay.

The issue is that if Rhodes wants to go then we need to sell him asap cos the tried and tested route is then for him and his agent to kick up a fuss of some sort, voice his displeasure and make his position in the squad untenable. Once that has been achieved his value inevitably drops..... and his signing on fee / salary elsewhere increases.

Bit like Whelan with Martinez. Whelan has come out with very fair and sensible statements all along whilst Martinez's name has been bandied about. But what else can he do? A manager wants to go to another club these days he damned well goes and thats that! No point fighting it cos contracts only work one way in football these days.

Add Croque and it's £51m. Then there's Samba for big dollar too. 'No massive return' my arse, Tyrone

And Bentley and Stevie Warnock! Fantastic business model that Hughes and Williams created between them and we spewed it all!

[rovers_rob]

The issue is that if Rhodes wants to go then we need to sell him asap cos the tried and tested route is then for him and his agent to kick up a fuss of some sort, voice his displeasure and make his position in the squad untenable. Once that has been achieved his value inevitably drops..... and his signing on fee / salary elsewhere increases.

Bit like Whelan with Martinez. Whelan has come out with very fair and sensible statements all along whilst Martinez's name has been bandied about. But what else can he do? A manager wants to go to another club these days he damned well goes and thats that! No point fighting it cos contracts only work one way in football these days.

And Bentley and Stevie Warnock! Fantastic business model that Hughes and Williams created between them and we spewed it all!

I agree that can be a problem but Rhodes doesn't seem to be the type of person to go on strike or kick up a fuss. If he was that type of person I doubt we would have paid 8 million for him in the first place.

Burnley sold J Rod for 7 million and they have now put a 7 million pound price tag on Austin. Wolves sold Fletcher for 12 million last season but he had scored goals in the Premiership.

The fact that we paid 8 million for a league 1 player who has now improved means that no way on this planet will we sell him for less than 8. I think that Premier league clubs would be prepared to pay 8 or even 9 at a push but if we want 12 plus I think for them that would be a huge gamble.

[EWOODACE1]

I agree that can be a problem but Rhodes doesn't seem to be the type of person to go on strike or kick up a fuss. If he was that type of person I doubt we would have paid 8 million for him in the first place.

Burnley sold J Rod for 7 million and they have now put a 7 million pound price tag on Austin. Wolves sold Fletcher for 12 million last season but he had scored goals in the Premiership.

The fact that we paid 8 million for a league 1 player who has now improved means that no way on this planet will we sell him for less than 8. I think that Premier league clubs would be prepared to pay 8 or even 9 at a push but if we want 12 plus I think for them that would be a huge gamble.

huddersfield fans where saying the exact same thing with Rhodes. Level headed lad and won't force a move. They where wrong. Reading this has the exact same reading as their board before he come here

[rovers_rob]

huddersfield fans where saying the exact same thing with Rhodes. Level headed lad and won't force a move. They where wrong. Reading this has the exact same reading as their board before he come here

So he forced a move and we paid 8 million ? (which I'm sure was a record for a league 1 player to a championship club)

Surely the situation was one or the other. Not both.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

huddersfield fans where saying the exact same thing with Rhodes. Level headed lad and won't force a move. They where wrong. Reading this has the exact same reading as their board before he come here

There's different ways of forcing a move though:

The sound way - Signing a long contract with your club, not requesting a release clause, not handing in a transfer request and letting your agent leak the odd thing about you being unsettled. Only the last part is doing any "forcing" and the 3 parts before it will ensure your club gets a good deal. To me this is the type of forcing Rhodes is doing and considering he's way too good for where we finished last season, I don't begrudge him it.

The not so sound way - Sign a short contract/don't sign one, e.g. Hoilett. Request a release clause, e.g. Jones. Hand in a transfer request, not sure we've had any players do that in recent times, Santa Cruz probably came the closest. All these things can contribute to the club not getting a good deal.

Rhodes took the first approach with Huddersfield and has done so far with us. If we get the right offer (around £10-12m) I think its best for everyone if we let him leave and part on good terms. Then if he can't get into the team he moves to, they might loan us him back!

[Boylerhaus]

West ham seem to have some money to throw around. They have offered Sevilla 17m for Negredo and had it turned down. A 10m+ Rhodes would be cheap compared.

[OJRovers]

huddersfield fans where saying the exact same thing with Rhodes. Level headed lad and won't force a move. They where wrong. Reading this has the exact same reading as their board before he come here

Its not really the same thing.

He forced a move from Huddersfield because we were offering him 40k a week, which was 10 times what he was on there. They were wrong to thing that he wouldn't want to go for that amount of earnings.

[AJW]

you could possibly throw Newcastle into the mix too

http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2013/06/03/newcastle-united-to-add-quality-rather-than-quantity-61634-33419183/

[imy9]

Your dyslexia seems much better today chaddy I see. Well done, imy will be pleased. I wonder if a little criticism might have helped at all cos it's certainly not done any harm.

I thought dinosaurs were extinct and then I see one alive and well.

[LeChuck]

you could possibly throw Newcastle into the mix too

http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2013/06/03/newcastle-united-to-add-quality-rather-than-quantity-61634-33419183/

Can't see Rhodes mentioned anywhere in there?

[AJW]

Can't see Rhodes mentioned anywhere in there?

He's not .... that's why i said possibly .... But the story said they were on the the lookout for 1 striker and 1 defender , and their budget could stretch to maybe paying £10m+ for 1 striker , something that Hull possibly wouldn't do , add to that the fact they lost Ba in January and as far as i can remember didn't replace him .

Of course its all if's but's and maybe's , but if there's a club who need a striker , who would be able and willing to fork out that kind of money, and where Rhodes thinks he will be playing most weeks and will not be involved in a relegation scrap than Newcastle , imo is it

[Commondore]

I'll eat my hat if Rhodes doesn't start next season at Rovers. Any team that would be willing to take a punt on him would have to pay in excess of £8 million for a player who's ability to contribute on a higher level is doubted by even the most one-eyed Rovers fan.

[T.J.Newton]

I can tell it's not your money thats at stake TJ! So lets assume that we do that and he moves on to another club and (somewhat miraculously) does really well. And we've given him away!!! Lets apply a bit of perspective. Even if we only get half a mill for him it still represents about a third of all ST sale revenues. Not only that but how far will 500k go keeping Ewood spruced up or even pay some of the Academy expenses? Rem if we get rid of one or two in the boardroom we must have a reasonable chance of keeping our money out of some dodgy swiss bank account.

I was getting at, that we should either give him another good try here or just sell him for whatever we can(with obvious clauses, just in case he does come good elsewhere) a season long loan would just use up another year of his contract and so lower his value anyway.

And also if he goes back to dundee and picks up wherehe left off it would only prove that the spl his about his level so unlikely that he'd get another big move out of scotland again.

[adsfortheblues]

I would like to see Goodwillie after a beasting of a pre-season, if he still doesn't impress then get rid.

You're one of few, I'm sure. Headless chicken that lad.

[chaddyrovers]

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[JAL]

I'll eat my hat if Rhodes doesn't start next season at Rovers. Any team that would be willing to take a punt on him would have to pay in excess of £8 million for a player who's ability to contribute on a higher level is doubted by even the most one-eyed Rovers fan.

Rhodes made a great step up to the championship last season, just think its silly talk to think about offloading him when hes been the icing on the cake of what has been a very soft centred cake. With poor incapable of bettering themselves performers like Orr, Lowe, Murphy, Gomes, Marcus Olsson and Etuwhowho would have thought these would be first priority.

[Waggy76]

If the player wants to leave he will !

It may well go down to the last 5 mins of deadline day ..

I can see Rhodes wanting out ....

[rigger]

I saw him quite a bit at Dundee Utd and he was impressive. he was a match changer, and if you are of that ilk you can usually do it at any level,as long as you are fit enough. Dunny is another example of what I mean

[tkturner]

I hope he stays and we get some decent support for him, clearly still got lots to learn and develop, his all round game aside from goals needs to improve for me.

I would hope he is the kind of guy to want to stick it out with us for at least another year and make more of a name for himself rather than quickly jumping somewhere else...

I actually think he would be a better player with championship football for another season...

[beanie]

He's not .... that's why i said possibly .... But the story said they were on the the lookout for 1 striker and 1 defender , and their budget could stretch to maybe paying £10m+ for 1 striker , something that Hull possibly wouldn't do , add to that the fact they lost Ba in January and as far as i can remember didn't replace him .

Of course its all if's but's and maybe's , but if there's a club who need a striker , who would be able and willing to fork out that kind of money, and where Rhodes thinks he will be playing most weeks and will not be involved in a relegation scrap than Newcastle , imo is it

If Newcastle went for him that would give them two strikers who are just goal getters and of no use elsewhere on the pitch they may need a striker but Rhodes is not what they need.

[diziet2]

Things are calmer tonight. The government has been trying to ease the situation apologizing for police brutality but there is also a general strike tomorrow.

Up in Taksim its at a stalemate. All the roads have been barricaded by the protesters and its like a music festival up in Taksim. The Carsi and the football lads are keeping a watchful eye on the Police but are not confrontational tonight. THe police are hanging arouns in front of Dolmabahce palace and are not looking to advance. It seems everyone is have a rest day until tomorrow to see what a general strike brings...

Here's a video of the defense of Taksim tonight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH8SpegFMo0&feature=youtu.be

[yoda's brother]

Things are calmer tonight. The government has been trying to ease the situation apologizing for police brutality but there is also a general strike tomorrow.

Up in Taksim its at a stalemate. All the roads have been barricaded by the protesters and its like a music festival up in Taksim. The Carsi and the football lads are keeping a watchful eye on the Police but are not confrontational tonight. THe police are hanging arouns in front of Dolmabahce palace and are not looking to advance. It seems everyone is have a rest day until tomorrow to see what a general strike brings...

Here's a video of the defense of Taksim tonight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH8SpegFMo0&feature=youtu.be

didnt realise we are now the BBC news channel

[Stuart]

Ben still has Jordan Rhodes on the brain. Old habits die hard.

[Uddersfelt Blue]

I thought Rovers fans were affiliated with Turkey? I seem to recall a number of Turkish flags at Ewood not that long ago!

[Stuart]

Wasn't that on Tugay day?