[Archived] Jordan Rhodes

[Andy]

The chancer that is Nixon is at it again. How on earth can he know that Rovers can't afford the next installment? Any contacts he had at Ewood/Brockhall have long since left the room and his ramblings with his poison pen seem to be full of antagonistic and bitter nonsense.

I'm surprised that this guy still gets mentioned on here, he clearly works on best-guesswork and has no idea about anything going on at Ewood Park.

[davulsukur]

Seems to be the norm these days but I guess its an easy story to write with our owners being so unapproachable and largely terrible. The club has issued a couple of statements regarding payments, the 2 I can think off the top of my head were to Berg and Dundee (for the Goodwillie transfer) when the media said we hadn't paid.

I also remember that the players allegedly were not going to get paid last January but I can't remember if that was from a poster on these boards or a red top journo.

[Andy]

He is also a lazy, vindictive and spiteful individual. Patrick Barclay once mocked him by saying that on occasion he hits the bullseye but mostly he hits the outer rim.

'Outer rim' is being very, very generous.

Unless it's a reference to Nixon's relationship with The Odious One...

[tomphil]

We have debt in the same way Chelsea do. All debt is to the owner and is never going to be paid back. Interest on the "loan" goes through the books but isn't actually paid. He has apparently indicated he is ready to spend more money having seen the wage bill slashed over the past few seasons and we now comply with forthcoming financial fair play rules.

The media mis-report our financial position everytime. Mind our own fans on the whole struggle to understand it.

Clearly we aren't likely to get Rhodes, but Eddie can afford to buy him, if he chooses.

But the Venkys can also afford not to sell him if they choose Well according to some anyway !

'Outer rim' is being very, very generous.

Unless it's a reference to Nixon's relationship with The Odious One...

Nixon throws for the bull twenty times a week. About 18 times a week it drops into double 3.

[EgyptianPete]

'Outer rim' is being very, very generous.

Unless it's a reference to Nixon's relationship with The Odious One...

Might be the outer rim of his ass cos thats what he talks out of.

As some of you guys are soo funny at times can we not start a Nicko bull @#/? story like you did with coco

[whiteinpeace]

How does it figure in to FFP tho thats the thing i struggle to get my head round.

FFP is about the losses you make as I understand it. I've not examined the full rules, but presumably we can still buy Rhodes and remain within FFP rules as we've drastically cut the wage bill. Also I believe Eddie may turn some of the loss into equity at some point.

Again I don't think it's going to happen. But Eddie has deep pockets when he wants to.

[tomphil]

The chancer that is Nixon is at it again. How on earth can he know that Rovers can't afford the next installment? Any contacts he had at Ewood/Brockhall have long since left the room and his ramblings with his poison pen seem to be full of antagonistic and bitter nonsense.

We've just paid off Murphy and Gomez and signed a few players and bid for Luke Murphy but yet can't afford the next Rhodes payment ? Hmmm.... good old Nicko dug himself in a hole and now floundering around trying to get out of it again. Surely and probably inevitably all Rovers will do is shove Ollson and or Dann through the door to cover all this. It was said ages ago by someone that these 2 would be the ones sold to cover costs, not withstanding huge bids for others of course.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

FFP is about the losses you make as I understand it. I've not examined the full rules, but presumably we can still buy Rhodes and remain within FFP rules as we've drastically cut the wage bill. Also I believe Eddie may turn some of the loss into equity at some point.

Again I don't think it's going to happen. But Eddie has deep pockets when he wants to.

In that case I don't understand the reported £9m fee Bolton were considering offering. Given the length on Rhodes' contract, his age and what we paid for him, Rovers will be looking for about £12m. We might not get that, but I'd be very surprised if we're willing to go much lower. And I'd say we certainly wouldn't drop much for a club in the Championship who don't have the ability to unsettle Rhodes in the same manner a Premiership club would. If Eddie's got deep pockets then he should put a proper bid in, instead of a reported one small enough to have the potential effect of just winding the Rovers hierarchy up.

[whiteinpeace]

In that case I don't understand the reported £9m fee Bolton were considering offering. Given the length on Rhodes' contract, his age and what we paid for him, Rovers will be looking for about £12m. We might not get that, but I'd be very surprised if we're willing to go much lower. And I'd say we certainly wouldn't drop much for a club in the Championship who don't have the ability to unsettle Rhodes in the same manner a Premiership club would. If Eddie's got deep pockets then he should put a proper bid in, instead of a reported one small enough to have the potential effect of just winding the Rovers hierarchy up.

Eddie can put whatever bid he wants in and then it's up to Venky's or whoever at your place to decide either way. Eddie and Dougie are not going to pay an amount they think is too high and equally Venky's are only going to accept what they think is the tipping point.

I doubt we'd go high enough to get there and equally I doubt you would lower that for as you point out a rival.

Which is why I think it's highly unlikely to go anywhere at all. I was just pointing out why we might have the money to bid for him is all.

[ABBEY]

Bolton are not our rivals ,although listening to yokel band singing ,you would think we were. Bolton have no rivals ...Chorley maybe.

[RibbleValleyRover]

Bolton are more primed for a promotion push than we are as they have the squad and a proven manager in Freedman who almost got them into the playoffs last year. Rovers meanwhile have a mixed squad with an inexperienced manager.

If Rhodes believes that Bolton have more chance getting promoted and they have the finances to get him then he will strongly consider it.

[Blandy]

I assume Nixon has probably been getting info. from Aggers. Aggers will know when the next installment is due and how much we have in the coffers; It sounds like we need to sell a couple of players to get some transfer money and pay the next Rhodes installment. NIxon knows this info and that Dougie "Ferguson" Freedman likes Rhodes so he's been passing all he knows on to his Bolton contacts hoping they can push Rovers into a corner and pay off the remaining transfer fee.

I'll start to get worried if by the end of August we haven't moved Olsson and Dann on!

If this is the case and we need to sell Rhodes to pay off the outstanding debt, I imagine there will be more than just Bolton in for him.

[EgyptianPete]

Bolton are more primed for a promotion push than we are as they have the squad and a proven manager in Freedman who almost got them into the playoffs last year. Rovers meanwhile have a mixed squad with an inexperienced manager.

If Rhodes believes that Bolton have more chance getting promoted and they have the finances to get him then he will strongly consider it.

UN believable, what tosh, he can stay here and go to a prem club next season if he carries on as he did last season, and if he does that means we are in the top half of the table, and as for "wee Dougie", where has he got all the experience !!! i would say Bowyer has far more experience managing in his time here at rovers, worked with far better people, need i go on.

[RibbleValleyRover]

UN believable, what tosh, he can stay here and go to a prem club next season if he carries on as he did last season, and if he does that means we are in the top half of the table, and as for "wee Dougie", where has he got all the experience !!! i would say Bowyer has far more experience managing in his time here at rovers, worked with far better people, need i go on.

Bowyer has a handful of games experience in a caretaker role. He's never been an assistant manager or a manager before. Reserve team manager yes, but that's a different kettle of fish entirely. Freedman was Palace manager for 90 games and 36 games for Bolton this season just gone, you cannot compare the two managers. Bolton were the form team towards the end of the season and almost got into the playoffs. They will be one of the favorites for automatic promotion going into this season.

Rhodes's ultimate goal is to play in the Premier League, if he feels Rovers won't get him there and quickly but he feels Bolton would then he would consider it if they offered the money. I personally think he will stay either until January or the end of the season, but you can't rule anything out in football.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

UN believable, what tosh, he can stay here and go to a prem club next season if he carries on as he did last season, and if he does that means we are in the top half of the table, and as for "wee Dougie", where has he got all the experience !!! i would say Bowyer has far more experience managing in his time here at rovers, worked with far better people, need i go on.

Don't understand the questioning of Freedman's management credentials. He's 126 games into his career with a win ratio of 37.3%, and considering its 41.7% at Bolton, he is clearly improving all the time. Bolton did very well to land him in my opinion and they've gotta be among the bookies favourites for play-offs at the least. Managing a reserve team is barely experience in managing at all, I fail to see how asking a bunch of kids and guys recovering from injury in a constantly changing team to go have a runaround but not do themselves any damage relates to being a Championship-level manager.

Hate to say it but the vast majority of neutrals would consider Bolton a step up from us at the moment, not a big one, and best case scenario not one at all in 6 months time, but right now I'm sure Rhodes would prefer to go there. £9m is a bad joke though, you can't bid £1m more for a player who's just had an awesome season and has 4 years left. One of Eddie or Nixon is playing silly b******.

[chris_h]

Bowyer has a handful of games experience in a caretaker role. He's never been an assistant manager or a manager before. Reserve team manager yes, but that's a different kettle of fish entirely. Freedman was Palace manager for 90 games and 36 games for Bolton this season just gone, you cannot compare the two managers. Bolton were the form team towards the end of the season and almost got into the playoffs. They will be one of the favorites for automatic promotion going into this season.

Rhodes's ultimate goal is to play in the Premier League, if he feels Rovers won't get him there and quickly but he feels Bolton would then he would consider it if they offered the money. I personally think he will stay either until January or the end of the season, but you can't rule anything out in football.

Your point about Bolton being better equipped than us for promotion is a valid one but if Rhodes's advisers have anything about them they will tell him to sit tight and wait for much better offers that are likely to come in during either this or the next window.

[Stuart]

Bolton are not our rivals ,although listening to yokel band singing ,you would think we were. Bolton have no rivals ...Chorley maybe.

Bury.

Although in moments of levity they'd probably say ManUre.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

Bury.

Although in moments of levity they'd probably say ManUre.

Been to the Reebok watching Rovers the last few years? You get a warmer welcome at Burnley. Its definitely us now (for them anyway).

[ABBEY]

Bury.

Although in moments of levity they'd probably say ManUre.

bury would say rochdale tho

Been to the Reebok watching Rovers the last few years? You get a warmer welcome at Burnley. Its definitely us now (for them anyway).

exactly for them ...not us.

[phili]

We've just paid off Murphy and Gomez and signed a few players and bid for Luke Murphy but yet can't afford the next Rhodes payment ? Hmmm.... good old Nicko dug himself in a hole and now floundering around trying to get out of it again. Surely and probably inevitably all Rovers will do is shove Ollson and or Dann through the door to cover all this. It was said ages ago by someone that these 2 would be the ones sold to cover costs, not withstanding huge bids for others of course.

I remember someone saying when we bought Rhodes last year that Balaji paid for him or guaranteed payments directly? Could it be that Balaji wants a return on what he has spent on Rhodes this summer?

[tomphil]

Been to the Reebok watching Rovers the last few years? You get a warmer welcome at Burnley. Its definitely us now (for them anyway).

Been to breezeblock god knows how many times watching Rovers and have to say that over the past 3 years or so they have suddenly taken it upon themselves to make this their big game and treat us the same way that Burnley and us treat each other, quite bizzare really. Of course there has always been a keen rivalry but past few years they've really gone above their station. Always known quite a few Bolton fans and always had banter but it's never been a big deal but even a few of them now buy into it so desperate are they for a genuine deadly rival.

I remember someone saying when we bought Rhodes last year that Balaji paid for him or guaranteed payments directly? Could it be that Balaji wants a return on what he has spent on Rhodes this summer?

It's possible that he's in one of those Ray Ranson style transfer investment things with a few others i suppose.

[ross-shire rover]

BBC Sports Website 13.39 "

Jordan Rhodes says he wants to stay at Blackburn after reports linked him with a move to Bolton.

Striker Rhodes scored 28 times for Rovers last season, following his £8m transfer from Huddersfield last August.

He tells BBC Radio Lancashire: "I love coming into Blackburn Rovers because it's a fantastic environment. We're going to have a really good team spirit this year and it's something I want to be a part of. For as long as I'm welcome, you're stuck with me."

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Nothing but ANOTHER massive kick in the teeth for Rovers fans if there is any truth to be had in this rumour...losing your best striker to Notlob...as if matters couldn't be bad enough !!

[EgyptianPete]

Bowyer has a handful of games experience in a caretaker role. He's never been an assistant manager or a manager before. Reserve team manager yes, but that's a different kettle of fish entirely. Freedman was Palace manager for 90 games and 36 games for Bolton this season just gone, you cannot compare the two managers. Bolton were the form team towards the end of the season and almost got into the playoffs. They will be one of the favorites for automatic promotion going into this season.

Rhodes's ultimate goal is to play in the Premier League, if he feels Rovers won't get him there and quickly but he feels Bolton would then he would consider it if they offered the money. I personally think he will stay either until January or the end of the season, but you can't rule anything out in football.

Well responded, maybe i am too blue and white eyes but i believe we will be as good if not better than Bolton, there seems to be a real togetherness about the whole situation at the moment, well reiterated by Jordan Rhodes yesterday and again today, one of my points was really Bowyer has managed teams albeit reserves, worked with Hughes and big Sam, i will ignore the other three so he must have learned something anyway like i say too much blue n white eyes.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Bolton were the form team - results wise - but talking to Bolton fans I work with it sounded a little like our start to the season - were the results were far better than the performaces.