[Archived] Jordan Rhodes

[Tom]

Nixon says he was going to Bolton for less than we paid yet now he's off to Wigan for 10m?

Why would his mates team bid a few million extra if they knew we'd take less

Pure guesswork (at best) all round

He may well leave but its any easy thing to predict MAY happen

[booth]

According to Nixon since 2011 he could have signed for almost every club in the country above League 1.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Transfer-gossip-West-Ham-new-bid-for-Jordan-Rhodes-rejected-by-Huddersfield-article851973.html

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Crystal-Palace-swoop-for-Huddersfield-s-Scotland-U-21-striker-Jordan-Rhodes-article810705.html

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/VILLA+DRIVE+FOR+RHODES%3B+HOTLINE+REPORTING+TEAM%3A+Alan+Nixon,+Dave...-a0284855652

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-258652996.html

Psychic mediums have a similar hit rate.

[martonrover]

I know this flies in the face of the Nixon witch hunt on here but I do think the level of stick he get's is unjustified.

Most people were only too happy when he used to share stuff on here.

Clearly he doesn't have the contacts he used to have at Rovers but people gloss over stories he gets right as it doesn't serve their agenda.

For instance, he broke the story about the new chief scout.

Some key personnel from other messageboards have a clear agenda against him, maybe as he does for a living what they have to make do with playing at on the internet.

[booth]

He certainly hedges his bets. He's going to Fulham? West Ham? Villa? Blackburn Rovers? Palace?

[SoldierMo]

Again ill ask what happened with Nixon and this MB

[Steve Moss]

SoldierMo- I'm not privy to the details as I was only an observer. But Nixon used to be a regular here and did his "11 o'clockers". Those were stories that were going to come out in the morning papers but were late enough he didn't have to be worried about someone stealing his stories. He also gave bits of information which wasn't paper worthy but was of interest to supporters.

All in all, I think he was a valued poster. He did have his detractors, however, in that they claim he allegedly used this site to gather news just as much as he provided it. It didn't bother me as information is information, and I thought it spoke well of him that he'd try to get stories from unconventional sources.

Things went south, from my perspective, when Kean became manager of the Rovers. It appeared that he was allegedly in Kean's pocket and/or JA's. From my perspective, it seemed he was very much a PR tool for the new regime (Kean was a "gem", had a 50 million transfer budget, etc.). The problem with PR is that its spin, not reality. Posters, including me, began to pick up on his errors more and more frequently. It turned many on here against him, for obvious reasons. Though to be fair, I think he was only as good as his sources and I think his sources were deluded and/or had an agenda, which only got worse as time went on. Regardless, his credibility suffered.

Eventually he had enough abuse and ran off to Twitter where he now controls his followers and his ego cannot be bruised. To date, his reputation has not recovered here and he's been forced to develop sources at other clubs, such as Bolton, etc (all, perhaps coincidentally, with Scottish managers).

That's my interpretation of what went on. I'm sure others have contrary viewpoints. Either way, no skin off my back.

[Kamy100]

My understanding is that Wigan are interested in signing Rhodes, they are hoping to sell McCarthy for £10 million plus and use that money to bid for Rhodes. However, according Rhodes representatives he is not really interested in moving to another Championship club. Obviously if Rovers accepted a bid then he would have to think about it but he won't push for a move to another Championship club.

So basically it is down to Rovers, IF Wigan put in a bid and Rovers reject it then that is the end of it as Rhodes won't push for a move. However if we accept whatever bid they submit then it would give Rhodes a decision to make.

[RevidgeBlue]

Just had a quick glance at the back page of today's LT and unless it's mentioned inside there doesn't seem to be any reference at all to interest in Rhodes.

Hopefully we'd have no interest whatsoever in selling to another Championship Club either.

[USABlue]

can't wait till rhodes is still here come 3rd september and then you can crawl back into the hole you came from,it like your obsessed with rhodes going and that you want him to go,whats your percentage cut if he goes ???

No then we will be hearing about it till January

[Waggy76]

Think there is more chance of him moving in January to be honest !

Wigan ? They will have the money and have an owner who is a proper owner ...

Think it will come down to where ,we are in Jan if in bottom half (which I expect)

and if a club is pushing for Prem , I suspect he will go ....

I am not convinced that Wigan will pushing for promotion , it is a difficult league and the UEFA cup will not help them ...

Your call Venkys ..

[Leonard Venkhater]

SoldierMo- I'm not privy to the details as I was only an observer. But Nixon used to be a regular here and did his "11 o'clockers". Those were stories that were going to come out in the morning papers but were late enough he didn't have to be worried about someone stealing his stories. He also gave bits of information which wasn't paper worthy but was of interest to supporters.

All in all, I think he was a valued poster. He did have his detractors, however, in that they claim he allegedly used this site to gather news just as much as he provided it. It didn't bother me as information is information, and I thought it spoke well of him that he'd try to get stories from unconventional sources.

Things went south, from my perspective, when Kean became manager of the Rovers. It appeared that he was allegedly in Kean's pocket and/or JA's. From my perspective, it seemed he was very much a PR tool for the new regime (Kean was a "gem", had a 50 million transfer budget, etc.). The problem with PR is that its spin, not reality. Posters, including me, began to pick up on his errors more and more frequently. It turned many on here against him, for obvious reasons. Though to be fair, I think he was only as good as his sources and I think his sources were deluded and/or had an agenda, which only got worse as time went on. Regardless, his credibility suffered.

Eventually he had enough abuse and ran off to Twitter where he now controls his followers and his ego cannot be bruised. To date, his reputation has not recovered here and he's been forced to develop sources at other clubs, such as Bolton, etc (all, perhaps coincidentally, with Scottish managers).

That's my interpretation of what went on. I'm sure others have contrary viewpoints. Either way, no skin off my back.

Many thanks for this analysis. I am relatively new on here and I had been wondering about the context.

[thenodrog]

Rhodes won't go to Wigan or Bolton. Why would he?

If a prem team comes in then that's a different matter. Bolton are no better than we are. Wigan will be in the same situation as us next season if they don't go up. They'll have a big wage bill and will have to try and shift their big earners.

Maybe thats what Huddersfield fans thought.

Not only that but you must have noticed that all we are doing at present is reducing our wage bill.

[martonrover]

SoldierMo- I'm not privy to the details as I was only an observer. But Nixon used to be a regular here and did his "11 o'clockers". Those were stories that were going to come out in the morning papers but were late enough he didn't have to be worried about someone stealing his stories. He also gave bits of information which wasn't paper worthy but was of interest to supporters.All in all, I think he was a valued poster. He did have his detractors, however, in that they claim he allegedly used this site to gather news just as much as he provided it. It didn't bother me as information is information, and I thought it spoke well of him that he'd try to get stories from unconventional sources.Things went south, from my perspective, when Kean became manager of the Rovers. It appeared that he was allegedly in Kean's pocket and/or JA's. From my perspective, it seemed he was very much a PR tool for the new regime (Kean was a "gem", had a 50 million transfer budget, etc.). The problem with PR is that its spin, not reality. Posters, including me, began to pick up on his errors more and more frequently. It turned many on here against him, for obvious reasons. Though to be fair, I think he was only as good as his sources and I think his sources were deluded and/or had an agenda, which only got worse as time went on. Regardless, his credibility suffered.Eventually he had enough abuse and ran off to Twitter where he now controls his followers and his ego cannot be bruised. To date, his reputation has not recovered here and he's been forced to develop sources at other clubs, such as Bolton, etc (all, perhaps coincidentally, with Scottish managers).That's my interpretation of what went on. I'm sure others have contrary viewpoints. Either way, no skin off my back.

Largely agree with your summary.

A few points - Posting on a message board or tweeting is a past time and you do it because you want to, not for any gain.

I don't agree with the idea that Alan used to get information from here. I know that's a commonly held belief but think it's exaggerating the importance of a supporters message board.

Alan did paint the takeover and it's immediate aftermath in a very positive light but could only go off face value information he was getting at that time.

I agree he was over protective of Kean and that's where his relationship with this board began to deteriorate and eventually perished.

As for "being forced to develop sources at other clubs", Alan is a freelance journalist covering several North West clubs so that doesn't stand up at all.

He now answers questions about the smaller North West clubs on his twitter account.

This hardly constitutes reason for hatred or vilification in my opinion.

Yes, of course he gets stories wrong but so do many journalists trying to second guess what is happening within football clubs.

The fact is that unless you are the chairman or manager it is impossible to be 100% accurate.

I do occasionally ask Alan about Rovers related stuff on twitter and he usually replies and always very politely.

These are not the actions of someone simply craving attention, eg fake ITK's or supposed Sheikhs.

[Shabani]

I don't think any Championship clubs will be willing to take on Rhodes' wages. He will only move to a PL club if a bid comes in

[RevidgeBlue]

Maybe thats what Huddersfield fans thought.

Not only that but you must have noticed that all we are doing at present is reducing our wage bill.

The difference from 12 months ago is that Rhodes would have been receiving a massive wage hike to move to here to Huddersfield. I can't see Whelan being willing to stump up anything like what he's on here in terms of wages but if he were Rhodes would be moving for the same money at best.

[rhodie]

I know this flies in the face of the Nixon witch hunt on here but I do think the level of stick he get's is unjustified.

Most people were only too happy when he used to share stuff on here.

Clearly he doesn't have the contacts he used to have at Rovers but people gloss over stories he gets right as it doesn't serve their agenda.

For instance, he broke the story about the new chief scout.

Some key personnel from other messageboards have a clear agenda against him, maybe as he does for a living what they have to make do with playing at on the internet.

That may be true that he does have contacts to be able to get info spot on, therefore in my eyes it only further shows his agenda as being against Blackburn Rovers by unsettling the player and the fans. Common sense says if Rhodes goes anywhere it will be to better himself i.e the prem. as we all know the championship is not as easy as we all thought it would be, nobody can gaurentee that Wigan or Bolton will go up so therefore it`s a gamble for the player as well he may as well just stay here where he has now settled in. His earnings at the moment certainly won`t be upped by either Wigan or Bolton either, they simply can`t afford it. Nixon is winding us up.

[SoldierMo]

SoldierMo- I'm not privy to the details as I was only an observer. But Nixon used to be a regular here and did his "11 o'clockers". Those were stories that were going to come out in the morning papers but were late enough he didn't have to be worried about someone stealing his stories. He also gave bits of information which wasn't paper worthy but was of interest to supporters.

All in all, I think he was a valued poster. He did have his detractors, however, in that they claim he allegedly used this site to gather news just as much as he provided it. It didn't bother me as information is information, and I thought it spoke well of him that he'd try to get stories from unconventional sources.

Things went south, from my perspective, when Kean became manager of the Rovers. It appeared that he was allegedly in Kean's pocket and/or JA's. From my perspective, it seemed he was very much a PR tool for the new regime (Kean was a "gem", had a 50 million transfer budget, etc.). The problem with PR is that its spin, not reality. Posters, including me, began to pick up on his errors more and more frequently. It turned many on here against him, for obvious reasons. Though to be fair, I think he was only as good as his sources and I think his sources were deluded and/or had an agenda, which only got worse as time went on. Regardless, his credibility suffered.

Eventually he had enough abuse and ran off to Twitter where he now controls his followers and his ego cannot be bruised. To date, his reputation has not recovered here and he's been forced to develop sources at other clubs, such as Bolton, etc (all, perhaps coincidentally, with Scottish managers).

That's my interpretation of what went on. I'm sure others have contrary viewpoints. Either way, no skin off my back.

Aah ok cheers for that appreciate it and all seems to make sense as he seems to hate us now lookin at his twitter lol

[yeti-dog]

Maybe thats what Huddersfield fans thought.

Not only that but you must have noticed that all we are doing at present is reducing our wage bill.

Of course we're reducing the wage bill, but as you're well aware the focus, quite rightly, is on the parasites and dead-wood. I don't believe there's any pressure on Bowyer to sell Rhodes as part of this wage cull.

[Sparky Marky]

I think they thought there would be a barrage of bids for him from premier league teams, and now nobody has shown any interest Shelfman is hawking him about now. Totally out of character for them to spend 8m....I reckon they were promised a big profit on him after a season and now it's not happening, even with a big goal tally last season, they want him off the wage bill quick style....even if its to another championship club for the same money. Not sure what old Rhodesy will think of that though.

[RevidgeBlue]

Think there is more chance of him moving in January to be honest !

Wigan ? They will have the money and have an owner who is a proper owner ...

Think it will come down to where ,we are in Jan if in bottom half (which I expect)

and if a club is pushing for Prem , I suspect he will go ....

I am not convinced that Wigan will pushing for promotion , it is a difficult league and the UEFA cup will not help them ...

Your call Venkys ..

Don't honestly think a move to Wigan holds much long term appeal for any player. Whelan won't be around forever and when he's gone the Club are likely to be viewed by his family as an unwanted millstone round their neck, as we were by the Walker Trust.

Can't see Whelan providing as generously for the Club as Jack did in the immediate aftermath of his death either.

Like Rovers I think Wigan are immensely attractive as a Premier League Club as a relatively cheap way of buying into the Premier League brand. As a Championship Club or worse neither Club hold much appeal to the outside investor other than died in the wool fans I woulsn't have thought.

I think they thought there would be a barrage of bids for him from premier league teams, and now nobody has shown any interest Shelfman is hawking him about now. Totally out of character for them to spend 8m....I reckon they were promised a big profit on him after a season and now it's not happening, even with a big goal tally last season, they want him off the wage bill quick style....even if its to another championship club for the same money. Not sure what old Rhodesy will think of that though.

There's not the slightest bit of evidence that that's the case but still..........

If he does go to another Championship Club this week I'll hold up my hands and say you and Merce were right

[Andy]

I think the only Championship club he's in danger of going to would be QPR...if they wanted him.

[Stuart]

Largely agree with your summary.

A few points - Posting on a message board or tweeting is a past time and you do it because you want to, not for any gain.

I don't agree with the idea that Alan used to get information from here. I know that's a commonly held belief but think it's exaggerating the importance of a supporters message board.

Alan did paint the takeover and it's immediate aftermath in a very positive light but could only go off face value information he was getting at that time.

I agree he was over protective of Kean and that's where his relationship with this board began to deteriorate and eventually perished.

As for "being forced to develop sources at other clubs", Alan is a freelance journalist covering several North West clubs so that doesn't stand up at all.

He now answers questions about the smaller North West clubs on his twitter account.

This hardly constitutes reason for hatred or vilification in my opinion.

Yes, of course he gets stories wrong but so do many journalists trying to second guess what is happening within football clubs.

The fact is that unless you are the chairman or manager it is impossible to be 100% accurate.

I do occasionally ask Alan about Rovers related stuff on twitter and he usually replies and always very politely.

These are not the actions of someone simply craving attention, eg fake ITK's or supposed Sheikhs.

You seriously think he posted on here just for the philanthropic hell of it?

He definitely got info from people on here, just not always on the forums (but via PM). It's was a two-way street. He used to supply info (scoops - ha!) which were, more often than not already "guessed" earlier in the evening and he just added some filler. I'm not denying he had also contacts within the club (mainly in the Ince-era and closely toed the line during Kean's tenure) and occasionally he was bang on the money, but to suggest that he didn't use this mb for his own ends, is just plain naive. I'm sure he will have one eye on this messageboard even now. He'd be daft not to. I expect he has aliases on most of the supporter mbs of the all North West clubs (and beyond).

He did have his moments where he showed his human side - particularly trying to peddle his daughter's designer handbags but I'm glad he's gone to be honest. He really divided the messageboard into a pro-Nicko and anti-Nicko split to the point it became ugly. He didn't like being called out on any contradictions and in the end, took his ball home and set up shop on Twitter.

He had some nice things to say about Jack Walker too but at the end of the day it's his job to create speculation and he did it very well. Let's not pretend that he is any kind of football humanitarian though. You don't get anywhere in his business without being a hardened cynic.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

I don't believe this story but l would be furious if we did lose our best striker to Wigan flurkin Athletic...would be very hard to take indeed.

[Parsonblue]

Personally, I really can't see Rhodes moving anytime soon. At the moment there are too many flaws in this game to attract Premier League clubs at the price we want. The majority of clubs play with a lone striker and this is a role that highlights the shortcomings in his game. His wages will be too much for Championship clubs and, again, they are unlikely to meet the asking price. The only way I can see him moving is if the financial situation is so serious that the club are prepared to take a hit simply to get some cash in and to get him off the wage bill.

[SoldierMo]

To be fair to the lad i was at the Barnsley game and he playd the lone striker role perfectly everytime the ball was played down the channels and to feet only time he lost out was when the ball was pumped forward in the air which to be honest wasnt many times at all