Andy Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 And how many times was The Bald One sacked on Twitter? From sources who never get anything wrong? I refuse to believe that Rhodes will (or would) move to Wigan, it makes no sense in any respect at all. However, if it did somehow turn out to be correct, fair play to Mercerman who called it a while back and got a bit of stick for it.
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McClarky Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 He's a great goalscorer and being great at something makes him by far our best and most important player. Who else in our squad is great at anything? He isn't great at everything and if he was he wouldn't be playing for us would he?
beanie Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 It would depend on who was brought in with the money we got for him and which other areas of the team were strengthened. Cardiff won the title without anyone hitting double figures in terms of goalscoring. I don't think you need a 27 goal a season man to avoid relegation. However, I think it's an academic discussion as I don't think anyone would play anywhere near what we paid for him. So say we get 10m for him we pay Huddersfield 5.5 leaving 4.5 to improve the goal scoring from elsewhere now bare in mind we will need someone to play up top in a target man role then we will need maybe 2 more behind the striker types to make up for the missing 27 goals factor in wages and the fact we prob will not see the whole 4.5m and we are talking 3 players prob each under 1m i'm thinking these players are going to be very poor compared to Jordan Rhodes.
Gav Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 However, if it did somehow turn out to be correct, fair play to Mercerman who called it a while back and got a bit of stick for it. .....and the moons made out of cheese
Howler Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 I would love to see what Rhodes can do for us with decent service. I accept that his all round play needs developing but his conversion rate of chances last season was pretty high and the service he got was dreadful. We look to have better options in midfield now so with improved service he might score even more! Haven't seen enough of him this season to comment if his all round game has improved but he looked OK v Barnsley.
JBiz Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 There will be no real class to be seen on the pitch if Rhodes leaves imo. As simple as thhis comment sounds, completely agree. I can't believe the amount of fans who seem to slate JR's contributions. The guy could literally sit on the touchline for 85 minutes for me, if can bang a couple in, in the first 5 minutes. The guy doesnt have pace, the most strength or the best passing - but jesus christ, he will score goals every day in any division with the right service. That is a proven skill he has, and if you think it is worth cashing in for a few more squad players (remember we have a squad of 50+) then you are basically the same level of intelligence as Shebby "the superstar" Singh. Rhodes is a brilliant finisher, no question. His all round game though is nothing to write home about, last year we scored 55 goals and constantly had less possession than most teams we played, you cannot ignore his part played in that when considering whether or not we will sell him. In the modern game you simply to have to do more than score nowadays. How on earth is the possession statistics the responsibility of Jordans? So called "top level" midfielders giving the ball away and not tracking perhaps.
RockinRover Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 It's simple, if we start providing Rhodes with proper service, he'll score probably 30+ goals this season and suddenly you'll see us climb the table as proper service also means chances for others. We can not sell Rhodes if we want to have any chance of chasing promotion this season. Without him and bad service to lesser strikers we will really struggle.
EgyptianPete Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 There will be no real class to be seen on the pitch if Rhodes leaves imo. As simple as thhis comment sounds, completely agree. I can't believe the amount of fans who seem to slate JR's contributions. The guy could literally sit on the touchline for 85 minutes for me, if can bang a couple in, in the first 5 minutes. The guy doesnt have pace, the most strength or the best passing - but jesus christ, he will score goals every day in any division with the right service. That is a proven skill he has, and if you think it is worth cashing in for a few more squad players (remember we have a squad of 50+) then you are basically the same level of intelligence as Shebby "the superstar" Singh. How on earth is the possession statistics the responsibility of Jordans? So called "top level" midfielders giving the ball away and not tracking perhaps. To add to these many comments regarding finances and how skint we are albeit we have just spent another £1m, how many times in the LET and by Glen Mullan and by Kamy have they stated in the last two/three weeks the Owners (venkys) still want to pump money into the club even with the Fair play rules, and they have also got some financial gurus from London looking at ways of getting around the Fair play bunkum who are also looking after Paris St germain's finances , so I don't think we are at all skint as some would make out, unless of course the gentlemen i mentioned are telling fibs, and for sure they are not.
martonrover Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 Michael isn't a rumour monger but I've noticed he tends to post Rovers related stuff a couple of days after it was news. As others have said, the Wigan rumour surfaced at the weekend and had already appeared to be quashed prior to Michael's tweet.
Backroom Tom Posted August 29, 2013 Backroom Posted August 29, 2013 Why all of a sudden is Jordan Rhodes a bad player, he cant do this or that etc, i have just read two pages of rubbish and reasons of why we should get rid, i think many are being disrespectful to probably the best CF we have, --- or as many would like to think had, in many a year, because you can not dispute his goal scoring attributes which are second to none. If GB cant see that then he's in the wrong job. Best striker in many a year? He's clearly the best we have but not close to the player Yakubu was at this point I don't see what selling him will achieve football wise though especially at this point in the window And how many times was The Bald One sacked on Twitter? From sources who never get anything wrong? I refuse to believe that Rhodes will (or would) move to Wigan, it makes no sense in any respect at all. However, if it did somehow turn out to be correct, fair play to Mercerman who called it a while back and got a bit of stick for it. Calling that the one player we have that attracts interest will be sold is hardly a revelation, its an obvious prediction to make if you are looking on the negative side of things
AggyBlue Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 How utterly humiliating it would be to loose our top scorer to Wigan keaning Athletic
eire3382 Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 Everytime we hear something from twitter or from someone ITK we split into two groups. 1 believing the world is ending and the other saying its a pack of lies. I nsults are fired back and forth and before you know it someone has left the message board. I like hearing from people with some insight into the goings on at Rovers but thats all it can ever be an insight. There has been an over reaction to almost every story this summer. As for this story. Jordan will leave Rovers in the next 24 months but personally I can't believe we would let him go so late on in the window. I could be very wrong but I hope not. If he goes we are up to our ears in s1%t, I think. If he goes to Wigan then there are some hard questions which have to be asked and the answers better be bloody good.
cn174 Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 It would depend on who was brought in with the money we got for him and which other areas of the team were strengthened. Cardiff won the title without anyone hitting double figures in terms of goalscoring. I don't think you need a 27 goal a season man to avoid relegation. However, I think it's an academic discussion as I don't think anyone would play anywhere near what we paid for him. Whilst others don't need a 27 goal a season man to avoid relegation or get promoted, we did! Without Rhodes' goals we'd have been down by Christmas. If we'd not signed Rhodes I dont think the rest of our team + anyone else we would've signed (I think he was a complete one off signing after Best got injured) would've scored 27 goals.
Gav Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 Whilst others don't need a 27 goal a season man to avoid relegation or get promoted, we did! Without Rhodes' goals we'd have been down by Christmas. Spot on
AggyBlue Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 Whilst others don't need a 27 goal a season man to avoid relegation or get promoted, we did! Without Rhodes' goals we'd have been down by Christmas. If we'd not signed Rhodes I dont think the rest of our team + anyone else we would've signed (I think he was a complete one off signing after Best got injured) would've scored 27 goals. Correct and the squad hasn't been improved enough to compensate for the loss of his goals
Speedie Dived Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 How on earth is the possession statistics the responsibility of Jordans? So called "top level" midfielders giving the ball away and not tracking perhaps. One of a strikers main jobs is to hold the ball up and bring others into play, common sense really. Or strikers run the channels and move their team up the pitch. These are not strengths of Jordans.
EgyptianPete Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 Everytime we hear something from twitter or from someone ITK we split into two groups. 1 believing the world is ending and the other saying its a pack of lies. I nsults are fired back and forth and before you know it someone has left the message board. I like hearing from people with some insight into the goings on at Rovers but thats all it can ever be an insight. There has been an over reaction to almost every story this summer. As for this story. Jordan will leave Rovers in the next 24 months but personally I can't believe we would let him go so late on in the window. I could be very wrong but I hope not. If he goes we are up to our ears in s1%t, I think. If he goes to Wigan then there are some hard questions which have to be asked and the answers better be bloody good. Well said
West Yorks Rover Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 One of a strikers main jobs is to hold the ball up and bring others into play, common sense really. Or strikers run the channels and move their team up the pitch. These are not strengths of Jordans. No and maybe Gary Bowyer is the one who thinks that we would be better with someone who has much more pace about him, and can still score plenty. Maybe we were/are interested in Nahki Wells. Have'nt seen him in the flesh, but he looks pretty quick on the clips.
tomphil Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 One of a strikers main jobs is to hold the ball up and bring others into play, common sense really. Or strikers run the channels and move their team up the pitch. These are not strengths of Jordans. No but he possess one of the main characteristics that a lot of strikers who posses the strenghts you listed do NOT have. That is the ability to convert most of the very few chances he recieves, with ease. Most teams wouldn't trade that for the other but he lets bring back Jason Roberts instead of Jordan eh ? FFS !
briansol Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 One of a strikers main jobs is to hold the ball up and bring others into play, common sense really. Or strikers run the channels and move their team up the pitch. These are not strengths of Jordans. You are absolutely correct. Although I would claim that he's decent at running the channels but lacks the pace to be very good at it. BUT this is the brilliance with Rhodes! It's the reason why we can keep him. The top teams won't buy him because of those weaknesses and those willing to overlook them, probably can't afford him. Football is filled with strikers that can hold the ball up well or run the channels, but natural goalscorers are a rare breed.
den Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 Whilst others don't need a 27 goal a season man to avoid relegation or get promoted, we did! Without Rhodes' goals we'd have been down by Christmas. If we'd not signed Rhodes I dont think the rest of our team + anyone else we would've signed (I think he was a complete one off signing after Best got injured) would've scored 27 goals. There is always this assumption the we'd have been playing with ten men.
Speedie Dived Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 No but he possess one of the main characteristics that a lot of strikers who posses the strenghts you listed do NOT have. That is the ability to convert most of the very few chances he recieves, with ease. Most teams wouldn't trade that for the other but he lets bring back Jason Roberts instead of Jordan eh ? FFS ! The Roberts who fired Wigan to promotion would improve our team overall. I like Rhodes, i just don't think he is the second coming and like many have said we have seen plenty better strikers leave. The best way to put it is like this, he is probably the final piece of the jigsaw for a promotion winning side, sadly we don't have any other pieces. Football is filled with strikers that can hold the ball up well or run the channels, but natural goalscorers are a rare breed. Very true, but i think that's what we probably need right now. If as a team we scored 60 goals this year without Rhodes, compared to last years 55, would you accept selling him?
West Yorks Rover Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 You are absolutely correct. Although I would claim that he's decent at running the channels but lacks the pace to be very good at it. BUT this is the brilliance with Rhodes! It's the reason why we can keep him. The top teams won't buy him because of those weaknesses and those willing to overlook them, probably can't afford him. Football is filled with strikers that can hold the ball up well or run the channels, but natural goalscorers are a rare breed. Yes you have a very good point, he would be long gone from Ewood if he had more pace !!! Probably for about £15-18m.
Amo Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 There is always this assumption the we'd have been playing with ten men. But no assumption that Kean & Shebby would've been in charge of spending.
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