[Archived] Clearout begins at Rovers

[imy9]

Wilifred Bony untested?? Give me a break!

As much as Alfonso Alves or Matias Kizman (?) at Chelsea, both scored a ton of goals in Holland but flopped in England.

[RevidgeBlue]

Except the one that matters... the top one. I suppose a lot of football people can see that Rhodes has peaked and in these days of 4-5-1 / 4-4-1-1 / 4-2-3-1 etc very much represents a square peg in a round hole. The key number being the '1' at the end.

"Peaked??" Blimey.

He's 23 years old. He's moving up the football pyramid and scored 29 goals in his first attempt at this level last season.

You're in danger of digging yourself a very big hole on this one Gordon

[unleaded]

Joe Mason from Cardiff is a player being linked.....heard good things about him .......looks like big spending days are long gone .....

[Salgado Is A Hero]

Mason's a good player.

If the interest is genuine, I'll get in contact with my Cardiff mate from uni who'll be able to tell us all about him as he's a season ticket holder.

[Earlydoors]

Dunno, Rhodes looks like an excellent finisher to me.

He's composed and slots it home most times.

He just needs an unselfish partner to play off - someone in the Mike Newell mode.

I know that Formica is overpaid but don't understand why he isn't given a chance in that central role alongside Rhodes.

He's shown a good work ethic in the past.

I think Best can grow into it but he needs to mould his ego to that of the team first. Might come good in time

[thenodrog]

"Peaked??" Blimey.

He's 23 years old. He's moving up the football pyramid and scored 29 goals in his first attempt at this level last season.

You're in danger of digging yourself a very big hole on this one Gordon

Hmmm.... then so are you Simon if he doesn't get near than number this season. Care for a wager? £20 says he wont get past 29 this season. Bets off if he's off... if you know what I mean.

Dunno, Rhodes looks like an excellent finisher to me.

He's composed and slots it home most times.

That bit I agree with. He does have a remarkeable ability to beat the keeper when the ball runs to him, BUT as the old saying goes... there is no 'i' in team. His weaknesses are massive.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

That bit I agree with. He does have a remarkeable ability to beat the keeper when the ball runs to him, BUT as the old saying goes... there is no 'i' in team. His weaknesses are massive.

Compared to what though? Its pretty irrelevant to me whether or not he ends up making it as a good PL striker. All that matters to Rovers right now is how good he is compared to Best and Campbell, and how good he is compared to who we would realistically replace him with. Gareth Bale isn't worth £100m but I can understand why Spurs won't sell him for less, cause they'd find it hard to spend the money wisely enough to replace him. Same thing applies with Rhodes in my opinion.

[blueboy3333]

Hmmm.... then so are you Simon if he doesn't get near than number this season. Care for a wager? £20 says he wont get past 29 this season. Bets off if he's off... if you know what I mean.

That bit I agree with. He does have a remarkeable ability to beat the keeper when the ball runs to him, BUT as the old saying goes... there is no 'i' in team. His weaknesses are massive.

bit of a daft statement that. Scoring is vital to any team. The ability to charge round the pitch like a lunatic does not a good striker make.

[Mike E]

Compared to what though? Its pretty irrelevant to me whether or not he ends up making it as a good PL striker. All that matters to Rovers right now is how good he is compared to Best and Campbell, and how good he is compared to who we would realistically replace him with. Gareth Bale isn't worth £100m but I can understand why Spurs won't sell him for less, cause they'd find it hard to spend the money wisely enough to replace him. Same thing applies with Rhodes in my opinion.

We need to stop agreeing like this. Making me feel dizzy!

[Guest Norbert]

Rhodes scores goals, and goals win matches. A bit before my time, but I don't think German fans bang on about Gerd Muller in the same way. And he was a similar type of player I believe (but a lot better). It seems that some people won't be happy until we clone Alan Shearer.

[Lytham]

For the record, Jordan Rhodes hasn't yet found a cure for cancer nor has he found a solution to the Middle East problem.

So we'll just have to settle for the paltry 29 goals.

Sigh.

[yoda]

Rhodes scores goals, and goals win matches. A bit before my time, but I don't think German fans bang on about Gerd Muller in the same way. And he was a similar type of player I believe (but a lot better). It seems that some people won't be happy until we clone Alan Shearer.

Shearer would struggle in this team

[RockinRover]

The fact selling Rhodes has even come up just proves how absolutely mental some people on this forum are.

[yoda]

The fact selling Rhodes has even come up just proves how absolutely mental some people on this forum are.

correct

[RevidgeBlue]

Hmmm.... then so are you Simon if he doesn't get near than number this season. Care for a wager? £20 says he wont get past 29 this season. Bets off if he's off... if you know what I mean.

That bit I agree with. He does have a remarkeable ability to beat the keeper when the ball runs to him, BUT as the old saying goes... there is no 'i' in team. His weaknesses are massive.

£20 he won't get PAST 29? So I don't collect unless he gets 30 plus? In the League?

You're not that confident he's ni good are you? Hee hee.

[oreilly]

cannot see the point in Derek Shaw coming out and saying that he is not for sale. all he is doing is attracting people to take a 2nd look at Rhodes, Just keep stum and hang on to him till 1st September!!!

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Rhodes scores goals, and goals win matches. A bit before my time, but I don't think German fans bang on about Gerd Muller in the same way. And he was a similar type of player I believe (but a lot better). It seems that some people won't be happy until we clone Alan Shearer.

You're talking 40 years ago re Gerd Muller, the game's changed since then.

[onlyonejackwalker]

The discussion sorrounding Rhodes is perfectly reasonable if people remain mature and do not get carried away. We all know he comes alive in the penalty box and finishes well. We all know he struggles to hold the ball up, win headers, beat a man and contribute to the team effort in open play. If he is not scoring then he may as well be sat with me in the stands for the contribution we receive.

The point was first muted last season after a number of totally ineffective performances in key games from our star striker, with the central defenders dominating him. All are watching him now and will have plans to negate his effectiveness. It will be interesting to see how he fares in the next few games.

[thenodrog]

You're talking 40 years ago re Gerd Muller, the game's changed since then.

Not as much as people think. Pace is more important as is the ability to have two good feet but the rest is much the same. Der Bomber's balance, skill and low centre of gravity would still see him prosper today.

[Commondore]

it is strange when the likes of Swansea and Cardiff are splashing out big money on largely unproven foreigners when theres a good young british striker who scored goals at almost every level who would be cheaper

This borders on chauvinism. Both Bony and Cornelius have scored plenty of goals in leagues that are better than the Championship and both have attributes (pace, power, height, ability to pick a pass) that Rhodes lack. Bony alone has 20 caps for a country that can pick and choose between Drogba, Kalou, Koné and Lacina Traoré for his position! You really should lift your gaze from the British isles once in a while, you're obviously missing a lot of stuff.

[Mike E]

£20 he won't get PAST 29? So I don't collect unless he gets 30 plus? In the League?

You're not that confident he's no good are you? Hee hee.

Indeed if the bet was more like 'at least 20', it'd be worth taking. What if he leaves us for either a Champ or Prem team Theno? Surely the same or a better standard would have the bet still count?

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Not as much as people think. Pace is more important as is the ability to have two good feet but the rest is much the same. Der Bomber's balance, skill and low centre of gravity would still see him prosper today.

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I agree regarding Muller, he didn't look the part but when it came to putting the ball in the back of the net he had few equals. I can't recall any player scoring more " in off " goals than Muller. He could also hold the ball up and bring the midfield into play. Chasing lost causes wasn't his game though.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Interesting aspect of the Rhodes debate - if he had pace or could hold the ball up well - and could score 25+ goals per season on a regular basis (as he has done throughput his whole career) - do you not think that :-

1. Even as a first division player would likely have gone for more than £8m

2. Wouldn't have come to Rovers anyway = as far bigger fish would have been after him.

I fully realise his limitations - but the ability to put the ball in the back of the net can't be under estimated. Where I do have concerns - is how to play him in the right way that doesn't impact too greatly on the team - or impact on his ability to score. At times (when not scoring) he does look a luxury player - we need a system that plays to his strengths better. To be honest, on Saturday, we didn't get too many balls into the area from the wings - IMO he would thrive on this type of service.

[Mercer]

Shearer would struggle in this team

No he wouldn't.

Many of his goals he created by himself out of virtually nothing.

He would also get an extra 25% out of each of his team mates.

[RevidgeBlue]

No he wouldn't.

Many of his goals he created by himself out of virtually nothing.

He would also get an extra 25% out of each of his team mates.

Silly comparison, Shearer cost 50% more than the British transfer record at the time.

50m in today's money?