broadsword Posted January 11, 2018 Posted January 11, 2018 Except the case hasn't been dismissed. At least not yet. It wasn't self-defence, he took it upon himself to get involved,and he gone after them. Quote
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AllRoverAsia Posted January 11, 2018 Posted January 11, 2018 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: Its been 5 months since the incident and why it has taken so long for the CPS and Police to decide. Its pathetic The will be looking at who and how to prosecute..OR... how not to...... If it goes to court any decent brief will get Ben off or at worst a light non custodial. His side have the 2 lads as their star witnesses, the fact that the 'others' started their banter inside a bar and continued it outside when Ben, Alex and their new 2 pals were on their way to do some more clubbing. The fact is that one of the 'others' was armed is crucial. Quote
Baz Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 On 11/01/2018 at 09:24, AllRoverAsia said: The will be looking at who and how to prosecute..OR... how not to...... If it goes to court any decent brief will get Ben off or at worst a light non custodial. His side have the 2 lads as their star witnesses, the fact that the 'others' started their banter inside a bar and continued it outside when Ben, Alex and their new 2 pals were on their way to do some more clubbing. The fact is that one of the 'others' was armed is crucial. The guy he punched was a soldier too. Quote
AllRoverAsia Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 9 hours ago, Baz said: The guy he punched was a soldier too. And the other a security guard, well countered by a single Cricketer without his bat but plenty of balls. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 So good to see Markk Pace and bounce https://t.co/WRLbTlE6tu Quote
Norbert Rassragr Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 We needed more of that sort of fast bowling instead of Broad and Woakes. Wood was injured at the wrong time, but surely we have more proper fast, nasty bowlers playing. Quote
AllRoverAsia Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 Fantastic by Roy. If he could just get his head around Test cricket. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Norbert Rassragr said: We needed more of that sort of fast bowling instead of Broad and Woakes. Wood was injured at the wrong time, but surely we have more proper fast, nasty bowlers playing. Do we? The problem Is County cricket and when 4 day games are played. I named about 4 or 5 young county bowlers who bowled fast according David Lloyd Quote
Norbert Rassragr Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 In Australia, we do. It's no coincidence that Starc, Hazelwood, Cummins and Johnson when he played tonked us down under. Their aggression and sheer speed terrified us. Woakes is good in English conditions (or he was finally doing it before that big injury), and Broad is still pretty good at home, but the Kookaburra ball and the pitches don't help swing bowlers. We need a variety of fast bowlers including 90mph+, bouncy, vicious bowlers. Pick the bowlers according to the typical conditions of the foreign tour and not because they are centrally contracted, or can bat a bit. 1 Quote
Brian Mcculloch Glasgow Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 On 14/01/2018 at 11:59, chaddyrovers said: So good to see Markk Pace and bounce https://t.co/WRLbTlE6tu It was a pure shocker for Warner. Quote
Husky Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 Can anyone see this? . . England could become so obsessed with winning down under that they'll lose the Ashes at home to give Smith what he desires. Everyone knows that in cricket winning a series away is the true test of a good team. India are the no.1 team in the world, but even they aren't so hot away from home. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 Stokes charged by CPS. Ben Stokes statement My statement on Bristol ⤵️...? https://t.co/xSStYeWPbJ Quote
jim mk2 Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 Affray carries a maximum 3-year prison sentence. He's a lucky lad - it could have been abh or gbh. Quote
Husky Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 Has anyone made a joke about Stokes Croft yet? Quote
chaddyrovers Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 Big news! Ben Stokes has been cleared to play for England again by the ECB and is expected to join the squad in New Zealand for February's T20 matches. https://t.co/LL0jJRZKqC Not before time IMO Quote
broadsword Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 Is OK to play for England if you've only been charged with affray? I don't really understand the logic. Quote
jim mk2 Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 Doesn't make any sense. Suspended during the investigation and now he's been charged with a serious offence he is cleared to play? He could still end up in jail if found guilty. Quote
Husky Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 I see the no.1 team in the World are getting slaughtered in South Africa. Hashtag anyone can win at home. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 Stokes should have been playing in the Ashes. I reckon he will be found not guilty when it comes to court. Quote
Baz Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 14 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Stokes should have been playing in the Ashes. I reckon he will be found not guilty when it comes to court. I don't, the video shows he's guilty. The punishment will be a fine and community service though, and everyone will just get on with things again. It makes no sense to me he was left out of the Ashes, but now he's been charged its ok to play? The ECB have not exactly covered themselves in glory with those decisions- sounds like they need an actual policy in future. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Baz said: I don't, the video shows he's guilty. The punishment will be a fine and community service though, and everyone will just get on with things again. It makes no sense to me he was left out of the Ashes, but now he's been charged its ok to play? The ECB have not exactly covered themselves in glory with those decisions- sounds like they need an actual policy in future. We have to agree to disagree. Stokes stood up for 2 men being attacked. Im pleased he didnt just stand there and do nothing. I think England were influence by us getting beat in Oz. Also Bayliss, Root and Strauss probably wanted him back him. Also Stokes might have took the ECB to court over a restriction of trade as he is innocent until found guilty. I will be surprise he is found guilty aswell. Quote
broadsword Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 Who's saying he should've stood there and done nothing? You live in a black and white world Quote
broadsword Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 I'll be surprised if he's found not guilty because he's on cctv running after people, giving them a good boxing. Quote
oldjamfan1 Posted January 19, 2018 Posted January 19, 2018 On the video evidence he is 100% guilty of affray - in fact he is lucky the charge wasn't more serious. Now, there may well be mitigating factors involved but when even your own mate is saying "That's enough Ben" yet you continue to throw punches you are on a very sticky wicket indeed - pun intended. Quote
AllRoverAsia Posted January 19, 2018 Posted January 19, 2018 22 hours ago, Baz said: I don't, the video shows he's guilty. The punishment will be a fine and community service though, and everyone will just get on with things again. It makes no sense to me he was left out of the Ashes, but now he's been charged its ok to play? The ECB have not exactly covered themselves in glory with those decisions- sounds like they need an actual policy in future. You could be right on the sentencing, depends his good his brief is. He will make a big play of protecting the two guys against thugs, one armed with a weapon - the bottle. Flanagan showed again what money can buy and he used a weapon in his assault - his shod foot. Personally I hope Stokes gets off with a slapped wrist and a commendation for bravery. Quote
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