Cricket

[oldjamfan1]

On 08/01/2018 at 22:51, chaddyrovers said:

Maybe so..

Reading tonight that we should find out whether he will be charge or not this week

Really?

Stokes was standing up for gay couple from Homophobic thugs.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4784329/ben-stokes-praised-by-gay-couple-after-defending-them-from-homophobic-thugs/

Would you not step up or in to defend them? Or stand by and done nothing?

Not having a go at you here Chaddy, far from it, but I had remembered this post from ages ago and thought "Good on you Stokesy" .........fast forward to the trial and day one of the evidence seems to paint a slightly different picture, though granted, we have to hear all sides of the story yet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-45082248

I truly hope the bouncer is spinning a yarn.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, oldjamfan1 said:

Not having a go at you here Chaddy, far from it, but I had remembered this post from ages ago and thought "Good on you Stokesy" .........fast forward to the trial and day one of the evidence seems to paint a slightly different picture, though granted, we have to hear all sides of the story yet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-45082248

I truly hope the bouncer is spinning a yarn.

Lets wait and see 1st before we judge surely. Lets hear Ben Stokes side of events 1st. 

Back to Cricket news, very please to see Pope called up. 

[Mattyblue]

Excellent Test match at Edgbaston.

Lets hope for more of the same, especially as I'll be at Trent Bridge day 2 and 3!

Edited August 6, 2018 by Mattyblue

[Gav]

That batting performance by Lancs last night has to rank as probably the worst death overs T20 batting I've ever seen.

They wanted 23 off 23 with 5 wickets in hand and blew it, lost 3 wickets in the final over and scored only 1 run. 

Heads should roll, something sadly a miss behind the scenes. 

[oldjamfan1]

4 hours ago, Gav said:

That batting performance by Lancs last night has to rank as probably the worst death overs T20 batting I've ever seen.

They wanted 23 off 23 with 5 wickets in hand and blew it, lost 3 wickets in the final over and scored only 1 run. 

Heads should roll, something sadly a miss behind the scenes. 

Totally agree Gav, it was shocking.

[matt83]

I was properly angry leaving old Trafford last night. I thought they had slumped to the lowest depth in throwing away the game against Leicestershire. Last night surpassed that by some distance. It was embarrassing.

They’re dreadful. They are so mentally weak and crumble under any sort pressure. Faulkner calls himself the finisher. Hopefully his time here is finished he’s not the same guy had in 2015.

It’s just about the worst Lancashire side I’ve ever seen. Not many teams go into a match with 4 batsmen. Two of whom are in their twilight years Croft/brown , Vilas who has been hopeless and Davies the only one who looks decent. The rest are all rounders that neither bat nor bowl that well. 

There’s also some illogical thinking behind the scenes. Batting has been an issue for years now, across all formats. So we sign 2 spinners for rest of the season. A Scottish club player and an Afghan who’s played 17 professional games in all formats (he looked alright to be fair). Now have Parkinson, Parry, Livi, Croft, Lilley, Scotsman and the Afghan. So just the 7 spinners. Even Kerrigan still hanging around. Haven’t got many who can hold a bat but clearly need more spinners. 

Even more galling when poorer counties in every way like Worcestershire replace a top player in Guptil with another overseas player who hits 39 and 102*. Plus replaced Head with Parnell who so far has figures of 2/22 and 3/20. Whilst we plunder Bonny Scotland and Afghanistan.

Yorkshire tomorrow without livi, jos and Jennings could be a massacre. 

[matt83]

This is off a supporters group twitter from yesterday’s members forum meeting:

“A member asked Chapple at previous forum whether there was a batting coach at which he allegedly responded there isn't a specific one. Same member at ydays forum asked Allott why there is no specific batting coach. 

An agitated Allott said - I'm sure Chapple didn't say that. Yes he did member replied. Well we have specialist coaches in all areas. Players are different, some need guidance some think they don't. It doesn't look like any of the batsmen are getting coached, she replied! Allott, looking increasingly angry, hit back - Look, I'll tell you what, we'll just sack all the coaches shall we. That make you happy?

Our reporter piped up, "be sensible lad", and he was shot a glare of pure evil from Mr Allott. 

Allott's whole attitude during meeting was one of condescension. For instance just asking for an update on injuries had him sarcastically saying oh and so and so banged his elbow yday, do you want a rundown on everyone? (Thank God the meeting took place before last night!)”

All sounds about right for rovers, sorry Lancashire. Force of habit. 

[Baz]

3 hours ago, matt83 said:

This is off a supporters group twitter from yesterday’s members forum meeting:

“A member asked Chapple at previous forum whether there was a batting coach at which he allegedly responded there isn't a specific one. Same member at ydays forum asked Allott why there is no specific batting coach. 

An agitated Allott said - I'm sure Chapple didn't say that. Yes he did member replied. Well we have specialist coaches in all areas. Players are different, some need guidance some think they don't. It doesn't look like any of the batsmen are getting coached, she replied! Allott, looking increasingly angry, hit back - Look, I'll tell you what, we'll just sack all the coaches shall we. That make you happy?

Our reporter piped up, "be sensible lad", and he was shot a glare of pure evil from Mr Allott. 

Allott's whole attitude during meeting was one of condescension. For instance just asking for an update on injuries had him sarcastically saying oh and so and so banged his elbow yday, do you want a rundown on everyone? (Thank God the meeting took place before last night!)”

All sounds about right for rovers, sorry Lancashire. Force of habit. 

It feels like it's jobs for the boys at Lancs at the moment. Chapple, Chilton. I don't get the feeling they have any real desire, and losing is acceptable.

Considering they where boasting about being one of the most secure clubs financially, where are they investing that into the team?

[Mattyblue]

The cricket became secondary a while ago.

Just look at the collapse in memberships, the dreadful marketing outside the Roses T20.

Amazes me that Notts, who are one of three clubs in the relatively small east midlands, consistently pull in considerably bigger crowds across all formats than the whole north west's only first class club.

Edited August 9, 2018 by Mattyblue

[Baz]

Dreadful performance again happening now, live on sky.

No invention or quality in the bowling, they honestly look like they are tossing it up and hoping for a error, rather than a plan.

[oldjamfan1]

Surely even Lancs can’t cock it up from here??

[Baz]

Got out of jail there, Yorkshire completely imploded, got probably 50 runs less than they should have.

 

[oldjamfan1]

10 hours ago, Baz said:

Got out of jail there, Yorkshire completely imploded, got probably 50 runs less than they should have.

 

They did a Lancs!

[chaddyrovers]

Brilliant bowling from Anderson today against India. 

Hopefully we will bat long and only bat once..

I.thought Lancs batted very well. Not a fan of twenty20 btw. But I didnt see the Bowling. Buts its a batting game really. 

[den]

From BBC on Jimmy.....

“He now has 553 Test wickets and is just 10 behind Australian Glenn McGrath's record for the most wickets taken by a seamer in Test cricket.” 

So Jimmy is just 11 wickets away from becoming the highest wicket taker in test cricket by a fast bowler, EVER. That will really be something for him to be proud of. You can do no more than that. Well done James.

[Mattyblue]

The bloke should be one of the biggest names in English sport, but show a picture of him to youngsters and I bet most couldn't even name him.

That's what hiding cricket away for a decade and a half has done to our summer game...

[chaddyrovers]

On 06/08/2018 at 15:17, oldjamfan1 said:

Not having a go at you here Chaddy, far from it, but I had remembered this post from ages ago and thought "Good on you Stokesy" .........fast forward to the trial and day one of the evidence seems to paint a slightly different picture, though granted, we have to hear all sides of the story yet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-45082248

I truly hope the bouncer is spinning a yarn.

Ben Stokes found not guilty of affray. 

Now we can get Stokes back playing cricket and focusing on that

 

Edited August 14, 2018 by chaddyrovers

[old darwen blue]

Wrong link pal

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-45182868?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-bristol-45146184&link_location=live-reporting-story

[Gav]

Just goes to prove once again that if you've got enough cash you can get off with anything.....

Definition of affray:

'Under the Public Order Act 1986 'a person is guilty of affray if he uses or threatens unlawful violence towards another and his conduct is such as would cause a person of reasonable firmness present at the scene to fear for his personal safety'

Anyone who has seen the video can make their own mind up....

Guilty as charged in my opinion.

Edited August 14, 2018 by Gav

[chaddyrovers]

1 minute ago, Gav said:

Just goes to prove once again that if you've got enough cash you can get off with anything.....

Definition of affray:

'Under the Public Order Act 1986 'a person is guilty of affray if he uses or threatens unlawful violence towards another and his conduct is such as would cause a person of reasonable firmness present at the scene to fear for his personal safety'

Anyone who has seen the video can make their own mind up....

Both parties found not guilty. 

Clearly the jury found the CPS case wasnt clear cut and prove their case. 

[jim mk2]

Stokes got away with it - anyone who watched the video could see it was clearly affray, and much worse.

 

 

[chaddyrovers]

Stokes will be back in England team starting Saturday. 

He will get a slap on the wrist from the ECB board for this. He missed the Ashes series which for me is punishment enough. 

This has given Stokes the kick up the backside he needed. He will be better man. 

The jury found him not guilty in a court of law. 

[Baz]

I agree with Gav, the definition and the video are pretty conclusive.

So he's got away with it. Hopefully he won't so so stupid to be out drinking after games again.

If the ECB has any sense they'll give him a small fine, and tell him he has to complete a couple of hundred hours working / coaching with kids.

[Norbert Rassragr]

Make him wait. Woakes and Curran have done enough, and Broad has had a rare good game. Not sure why the court case took so long to process though.

[Rover-the-Top]

20 hours ago, Gav said:

Just goes to prove once again that if you've got enough cash you can get off with anything.....

Definition of affray:

'Under the Public Order Act 1986 'a person is guilty of affray if he uses or threatens unlawful violence towards another and his conduct is such as would cause a person of reasonable firmness present at the scene to fear for his personal safety'

Anyone who has seen the video can make their own mind up....

Guilty as charged in my opinion.

Interesting.  I've watched the videos, read summaries of what was said in court and seen the interview with the gay couple.  Firstly, I think the violence from Stokes wasn't unlawful as he stepped in to stop someone being bottled. Secondly, whilst some could argue the continued throwing of punches was excessive, I think there would still be the threat of retaliation if he stopped. Thirdly, since he was reacting to what a specific individual was doing, I'm not sure why anyone else present would fear for their safety.  Obviously the jury had even more information than I do, but I can't argue with their verdict.  In fact, I wouldn't mind him being around if anyone ever tried to bottle me...