Husky Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, matt83 said: Not one positive from this. Our batsmen look like they only know how to slog, not a defensive shot between them. So Ramprakash as the batting coach needs relieving of his duties. Clearly as good a coach as he was a test batsman. I appreciate Bayliss is leaving after the summer anyway but he’s probably taken England as far as he can. Suppose when the ECB continuously undermine county cricket in favour of McCricket this is what we end up producing. Sri Lanka probably papered over huge cracks. There are SO many similarities between Rovers and England cricket. Square pegs, round holes (strikers on the wing, midfielders at centre half, makeshift right backs, no stand out striker, no world class spinner, batsmen playing at no.9, makeshift openers and no.3, loaded with bits and pieces all-rounders etc. etc. Often questionable tactics. Poor captaincy. No obvious leader. Softcore as soon as they are up against it. Brilliant in flashes yet always one moment away from complete capitulation. Management and coaching set-up loved by a soft touch and friendly media - never questioned by anyone but the most ardent of fans even when things go terribly wrong. If I've missed something, please let me know. 1 Quote
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AllRoverAsia Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 9 hours ago, Husky said: There are SO many similarities between Rovers and England cricket. Square pegs, round holes (strikers on the wing, midfielders at centre half, makeshift right backs, no stand out striker, no world class spinner, batsmen playing at no.9, makeshift openers and no.3, loaded with bits and pieces all-rounders etc. etc. Often questionable tactics. Poor captaincy. No obvious leader. Softcore as soon as they are up against it. Brilliant in flashes yet always one moment away from complete capitulation. Management and coaching set-up loved by a soft touch and friendly media - never questioned by anyone but the most ardent of fans even when things go terribly wrong. If I've missed something, please let me know. Good post. Our arrogance in going into this series unprepared has caught us out. We will maybe win the dead rubber which will again paper over the cracks. A lot to be done pre Ashes, the greatest series in Test cricket, the real form of cricket. Quote
matt83 Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 4 hours ago, AllRoverAsia said: Good post. Our arrogance in going into this series unprepared has caught us out. We will maybe win the dead rubber which will again paper over the cracks. A lot to be done pre Ashes, the greatest series in Test cricket, the real form of cricket. We always rise to the small occasions I fully expect a win in St Lucia. Quote
Rogerb Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 19 hours ago, matt83 said: We always rise to the small occasions I fully expect a win in St Lucia. The chance of that now increased by WI captain Jason Holder now banned from the match for slow over rate. Quote
AllRoverAsia Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 6 hours ago, Rogerb said: The chance of that now increased by WI captain Jason Holder now banned from the match for slow over rate. He was just giving England the chance of getting to day 4!! Quote
Rogerb Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 Keaton Jennings recalled for third test tomorrow Quote
den Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Rogerb said: Keaton Jennings recalled for third test tomorrow and Bob Willis said his England days were over. Got to say, I have to wonder why. Quote
matt83 Posted February 8, 2019 Posted February 8, 2019 Not sure what jennings has done to deserve a recall. Foakes must feel a bit hard done by there coping it for a crap top order. I rate Buttler but he needs to start doing a lot more. Same for stokes with the bat as talk of him playing as a batsman only. Also Bairstow needs to start using his brain. The ecb will have to reap what they sow. That is to say producing a bunch of t20 players who have to then pretend to be test cricketers. Quote
Husky Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 17 hours ago, den said: and Bob Willis said his England days were over. Got to say, I have to wonder why. If he fails again. It will be interesting to watch the meltdown on The Verdict. Quote
Husky Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 17 hours ago, matt83 said: The ecb will have to reap what they sow. That is to say producing a bunch of t20 players who have to then pretend to be test cricketers. Some 50 overs players would be good. I'd take a summer World Cup win over any test series. Quote
jim mk2 Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, Husky said: Some 50 overs players would be good. I'd take a summer World Cup win over any test series. Not a cricket fan. Quote
Husky Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 28 minutes ago, jim mk2 said: Not a cricket fan. It's all about the trophies. Nobody (apart from the Leicester manager) remembers who finished 10th over who won the cup. Quote
jim mk2 Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Husky said: It's all about the trophies. Nobody (apart from the Leicester manager) remembers who finished 10th over who won the cup. It's an Ashes summer. Over-rides everything Quote
den Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 Jennings gone again. Same shot, same result. Quote
Husky Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 1 hour ago, den said: Jennings gone again. Same shot, same result. He was also dropped on 3 - playing that same shot. ? Quote
den Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 Can’t believe they brought him back. At the moment he’s just too easy to get out. What now? Quote
Husky Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 For the first time in this series you get the feeling England are starting to get on top in a game. Currently 177-4, a decent score having been put in. Our world cup hopes Stokes and Butler are in and crunching some tired bowling around. 300+ or a collapse? Quote
den Posted February 9, 2019 Posted February 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, Husky said: For the first time in this series you get the feeling England are starting to get on top in a game. Currently 177-4, a decent score having been put in. Our world cup hopes Stokes and Butler are in and crunching some tired bowling around. 300+ or a collapse? 300 is a long way off. Pitch is still doing things, need a few more off these two yet. 250-270? Quote
matt83 Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 22 hours ago, Husky said: Some 50 overs players would be good. I'd take a summer World Cup win over any test series. It’s nice to win anything for sure. For me personally it’s all about test series wins, particularly away ones, and the ashes as the crowning jewel. I appreciate this summer winning the 50 overs World Cup would be a more noteworthy achievement than beating Ireland in the one off test but personally I’d take another 2015 debacle or the 2014 t20 defeat to Holland if it meant regaining the ashes. Quote
matt83 Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 As for this St Lucia test Jennings is simply an atrocious test player. The sooner he’s back at Lancs the better for both England and Lancs. Having been dropped twice on 3 playing the same drive. He had a thrash at another then got out to the exact same shot next ball. Quite pathetic scenes really. Quote
Husky Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 18 hours ago, den said: 300 is a long way off. Pitch is still doing things, need a few more off these two yet. 250-270? Looks like it was the latter. From 232-4 the infamous collapse and 277 all out. You gotta love England. It will be interesting to see what Woods gets out of the pitch (if the others leave him any wickets to get). Quote
matt83 Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 First time this series we’ve been ahead. Makes a difference having a bloke who consistently bowls 90mph and a few at 95mph. Quote
matt83 Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 Exiting conclusion in South Africa. Perera 153 not out in 2nd innings to win by a wicket is very impressive. Particularly in a very low scoring game. Stunning really. 2 Quote
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