47er Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Darrenbot said: After watching this crud the last 3 tests i doubt the Aussies are shitting themselves about the Ashes coming up. I am though! 1 Quote
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matt83 Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 On 04/03/2021 at 10:36, 47er said: Can't see any role for Bairstow in Test Cricket. The only place for him is as keeper and batting at 6 and England have obviously decided we have a better keeper than him On these pitches facing spinners he's out of his depth as a batsman, its sad to watch him. 1 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 1 hour ago, 47er said: I am though! I can't see any point in sending a team to Australia to be honest. Quote
Gav Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: I can't see any point in sending a team to Australia to be honest. Its the taking part that counts TS 🙄 Quote
jim mk2 Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 On 04/03/2021 at 18:55, jim mk2 said: . By all accounts it's a good pitch so India's batsmen will be disappointed not to make 350. Can we make 140 to avoid an innings defeat? Unlikely Just listen to your Uncle JIm. 2 Quote
den Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 It’s a relief to get that over. I guess England think so too. Bottom line is that we just didn’t have the batting technique for those wickets. It always been that way and I can’t see any way we can change that. 1 Quote
jim mk2 Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 Unless Root and Stokes score runs England will always struggle, especially away from home. The rest manage the odd good score but can't do it consistently or just aren't good enough . Some of them have poor techniques which doesn't get found out at county level and is an indictment of the domestic game. I mean Sibley - most decent club batsmen have a better technique than him Batting has been a problem for England for years, since Cook, Trott, Bell, Pietersen, Flintoff and Vaughan et al were in their pomp. The cupboard looks bare too. 1 Quote
matt83 Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) Clearly have to find someone but other than Root, who averages 49.6, none of the batsmen are currently good enough to justify a place. Burns averages 30.73, Crawley 37.16, sibley 32.48, bairstow 34.45, stokes 37.19, Pope 32.78, Lawrence 21.71, buttler 34.53, Ali 28.88, foakes 36, Denly 29.83. Obviously stokes contributes as an all rounder, foakes a keeper but in terms of purely batting contributions we have Root. That’s it. Perhaps if the county championship wasn’t reduced to a spring and autumn sport in favour of crickets answer to baseball then might allow young batsmen to learn their trade a bit better. Edited March 6, 2021 by matt83 3 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 23 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: It'll be all over by tea tomorrow, if not sooner ! Hang on Jim, probably the easiest prediction to make since I predicted Coyle would relegate Rovers on the day we appointed him. Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 20 minutes ago, matt83 said: Clearly have to find someone but other than Root who averages 49.6 none of the batsmen are currently good enough to justify a place. Burns averages 30.73, Crawley 37.16, sibley 32.48, bairstow 34.45, stokes 37.19, Pope 32.78, Lawrence 21.71, buttler 34.53, Ali 28.88, foakes 36, Denly 29.83. Obviously stokes contributes as an all rounder, foakes a keeper but in terms of purely batting contributions we have Root. That’s it. Perhaps if the county championship wasn’t reduced to a spring and autumn sport in favour of crickets answer to baseball then might allow young batsmen to learn their trade a bit better. We've completely lost our way regarding ways of bringing Test standard players through. Building an innings or hanging on in there to wear down the bowlers are lost arts in the new era of tip and run cricket. Quote
Ewood Ace Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 England utterly clueless how to bat on turning pitches but it's not a surprise as when a county produces them and produces spinners for England their reward is a points deduction. The selection for the last 2 test was terrible, you really do wonder if they even looked at the pitch. The rotation and sending players home seemed to have no thought to it, it almost seems as though they have prioritised T20 cricket. All that said this is a fantastic India team, probably their best ever. When you look at some of the high quality players who either missed out through injury or non selection for this series their strength in depth is quite something. If England are going to get back to the top of test cricket then we need to start treating first class cricket in this country with more respect instead of playing in mainly in April, May and September and weakening the competition with this stupid change of structure. Sadly none of that will happen anytime soon as the ECB have wasted a fortune on a tournament that we don't need and is not cricket. We were told after the 2019 Ashes that winning them back in Australia in 20/21 would be the priority but looking ahead to that you'd have to say that another hiding down under looks on the cards. 5 Quote
47er Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 It would help if the pool of young cricketers was larger. When do you see young lads playing cricket in the streets unless they're Asian? I always thought young Asians would come through to play for England one day but it doesn't seem to be happening on any scale. How many non-fee paying schools have cricket pitches these days! 1 Quote
Gav Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 First T20 against India starts at 1.30pm England win toss and bowl. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 England bowled really well and the batting was good. Good win by 8 wickets Quote
den Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 This is a superb England side without any perceivable weakness. Enjoy it while we have it. It won’t get any better than this. Quote
Cherry Blue Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 Remaining T20 games to be played behind closed doors due to coronavirus issues. Bumble said it was like they were sat on each others knees. Quote
oldjamfan1 Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 160 looks about a par score today. India have done well to get there to be fair. This has the makings of a tight finish. Quote
oldjamfan1 Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 Very poor from England today. With the start we had we could have coasted to victory. Absolutely no need to take any risks. Hopefully they will learn from it. 1 Quote
matt83 Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 Hoping Livi has a decent ODI debut today. Just needs to put the ramp shot away seems to be his go to but he’s not exactly Buttler when comes to pulling it off Quote
Riversider28 Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 Looking around the ground at Pune there are numerous advertising boards, but interestingly, there doesn’t appear to be any displaying Venkys. Maybe Livingstone, a Rovers supporter, will come out to bat with a Venkys Out sticker on his bat. 1 Quote
den Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 I’m still trying to figure what Tom Curran brings to an international one day team. 3 Quote
den Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 22 off his latest over of bowling in the slot to Pant. Quote
Riversider28 Posted March 26, 2021 Posted March 26, 2021 18 minutes ago, den said: I’m still trying to figure what Tom Curran brings to an international one day team. Apart from trying to look cool,not, with his head band, not a lot. 1 Quote
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