Cricket

[matt83]

These 2 new bowlers seem decent hope we stick with them. Think this kid will make it at test level. 

[Gav]

Dream start for Potts - He gets Williamson with only his 4th delivery in test cricket, and it’s at Lords.

[chaddyrovers]

Very good start by Stokes's England. 

Anderson, Board and Potts so far have been very good.  

[Gav]

Potts 3-8, dream debut.

NZ 39-6 at Lunch.

[jim mk2]

Just like England in the winter Ashes aeries, NZ are obviously undercooked and under-prepared for this first Test. England never recovered down under and it's likely NZ won't either. Another series likely to be spoilt 

In days gone by touring teams arrived well in advance and had any number of practice matches to acclimatise and spend time out in the middle - but NZ have been here for only 10 days or so. It's not enough

[only2garners]

NZ have been in poor form for months, having lost a series in India (no shame in that) but then tests at home to South Africa and Bangladesh. Kane Williamson has been out injured for most of our Winter and only arrived in England at the weekend after the IPL and some paternity leave and no red ball cricket at all.

[Mattyblue]

Should’ve put England in…

[chaddyrovers]

So far so good. 

England bowling has been much better 

20 minutes ago, only2garners said:

NZ have been in poor form for months, having lost a series in India (no shame in that) but then tests at home to South Africa and Bangladesh. Kane Williamson has been out injured for most of our Winter and only arrived in England at the weekend after the IPL and some paternity leave and no red ball cricket at all.

Most test teams lose in India to be fair garners. 

Well Kane Williamson could have ended his time at IPL early and had some proper time here and in the middle. Same with Boult

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

2 hours ago, jim mk2 said:

Just like England in the winter Ashes aeries, NZ are obviously undercooked and under-prepared for this first Test. England never recovered down under and it's likely NZ won't either. Another series likely to be spoilt 

In days gone by touring teams arrived well in advance and had any number of practice matches to acclimatise and spend time out in the middle - but NZ have been here for only 10 days or so. It's not enough

I just looked in my “ Wisden “ for 1962 Jim. The 1961 season Aussie tourists played Worcestershire  ( the traditional opening game “ ) on April the 29th and May 1st and 2nd. They then played Derbyshire, Yorkshire, Lancashire, Surrey, Cambridge Uni, Glamorgan, Gloucestershire, The MCC, Oxford Uni, Sussex. All theoretically three day, two innings games. After that they played England in the first Test on June 8th. All the main batsmen had made hundreds by then, some had made two or more.

[jim mk2]

9 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I just looked in my “ Wisden “ for 1962 Jim. The 1961 season Aussie tourists played Worcestershire  ( the traditional opening game “ ) on April the 29th and May 1st and 2nd. They then played Derbyshire, Yorkshire, Lancashire, Surrey, Cambridge Uni, Glamorgan, Gloucestershire, The MCC, Oxford Uni, Sussex. All theoretically three day, two innings games. After that they played England in the first Test on June 8th. All the main batsmen had made hundreds by then, some had made two or more.

 

And England used to do the same when we went down there. Large number of warm-up games over 6 weeks so the players were in good fettle for the first Test. It's one of the reasons so many Tests finish in 3 days - that and the player's aren't as good of course. 

Driven by money of course. One Test series per summer isn't enough now - there has to be 2 plus all the one-day internationals. Quality, as always, suffers

[chaddyrovers]

17 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I just looked in my “ Wisden “ for 1962 Jim. The 1961 season Aussie tourists played Worcestershire  ( the traditional opening game “ ) on April the 29th and May 1st and 2nd. They then played Derbyshire, Yorkshire, Lancashire, Surrey, Cambridge Uni, Glamorgan, Gloucestershire, The MCC, Oxford Uni, Sussex. All theoretically three day, two innings games. After that they played England in the first Test on June 8th. All the main batsmen had made hundreds by then, some had made two or more.

Those days on long tour and playing four or five first class games before a test series have gone now. Normal its around 2 first class games before a test series

[Gav]

Good start by Crawley and Lees here, small steps, that’s all we need at this stage. 

[jim mk2]

19 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Those days on long tour and playing four or five first class games before a test series have gone now. Normal its around 2 first class games before a test series

Thanks for stating the bleedin' obvious and what we already know - which is missing the point entirely (no change there)

Crawley out in the usual fashion, driving at a ball he should have left 

Edited June 2, 2022 by jim mk2

[chaddyrovers]

21 minutes ago, Gav said:

Good start by Crawley and Lees here, small steps, that’s all we need at this stage. 

Crawley did well. He looks like he getting better. 

Lees remembers me of Cook. Solid and defensive. Won't over attack tho

Hopefully Pope can made the number 3 slot his own now after massive backing from Stokes and McCullum 

[Exiled_Rover]

Strange they've announced Parkinson as the replacement player when he's sat in Manchester.

I don't even know if he'll get to the ground today - it's a 3-4 hour car journey.

[Gav]

14 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Strange they've announced Parkinson as the replacement player when he's sat in Manchester.

I don't even know if he'll get to the ground today - it's a 3-4 hour car journey.

They can only make a like for like change and Parkinson is the next in line I guess.

But I agree it must be strange for him ‘bombing’ down 50mph M6.

Edited June 2, 2022 by Gav

[jim mk2]

Pope - no hope. He and Crawley are so vulnerable outside off stump. No patience whatsoever. One-day players

[only2garners]

20 minutes ago, Gav said:

They can only make a like for like change and Parkinson is the next in line I guess.

But I agree it must be strange for him ‘bombing’ down 50mph M6.

He could just have jumped on a train in just over two hours. However he got there he's there now. He still might be batting before 6.30.

[jim mk2]

98-5. New "era" just like the last one. No one can bat

This isn't Test cricket

[Gav]

12 minutes ago, only2garners said:

He could just have jumped on a train in just over two hours. However he got there he's there now. He still might be batting before 6.30.

He's probably worried about them being on strike…

But you're right o2g, he needs to pad up, England showing we still can't bat, Baz has plenty of work to do.

Edited June 2, 2022 by Gav

[Ianrally]

These English batters as they are called now should stick to battering fish. 

[Norbert Rassragr]

More proof that the county game and the ECB are not fit for purpose. And then we have that 100 nonsense, a format not used anywhere else in the world. 

[Exiled_Rover]

This is a collapse for the ages.

Clearly the change of captain hasn't changed their mentality.

[Ianrally]

The mentality is for the white ball game. Test cricket is an art and the white ball game is for sloggers. 

[matt83]

Normal service resumed. Stokes and bairstow stupid shots given the state of the game