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[Gav]

Phenomenal, outstanding, what a difference a few months makes and a change of leadership.

Just brilliant England.

[Admiral Nelsen]

  On 04/07/2022 at 17:59, AllRoverAsia said:

Great test cricket and pleased that Lees and Crawley got runs.

The first hour tomorrow will dictate the outcome.

To save my typing let me just say that I agree with everything that KP said on Sky post match.

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It certainly has!

 

Absolutely magnificent batting. 

[jim mk2]

Stunning win and totally unexpected. Root and Bairstow made it look easy., 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

What can I say ? That was just brilliant. Chasing down that score with just three wickets lost must rank as one of our best performances for a long time.

[oldjamfan1]

I wonder whether other teams will start putting England into bat for a while now in test matches, given the four incredible and mainly nonchalant run chases we have executed under the new regime?

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

  On 05/07/2022 at 14:28, oldjamfan1 said:

I wonder whether other teams will start putting England into bat for a while now in test matches, given the four incredible and mainly nonchalant run chases we have executed under the new regime?

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It makes a difference when the openers have done their job. Coming out to bat at 107 for 1 is a bit different to 20 for 2.

Edited July 5, 2022 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[chaddyrovers]

That was great win and Stokes comments at the toss that they wanting to chase a target was spot on. Also every one played their part in the win. 

[chaddyrovers]

  On 05/07/2022 at 13:18, jim mk2 said:

Stunning win and totally unexpected. Root and Bairstow made it look easy., 

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why was it unexpected? 

 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

  On 05/07/2022 at 16:27, chaddyrovers said:

why was it unexpected? 

 

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Maybe because no other team has ever chased down a score like that in the fourth innings to win at Test Match at Edgbaston  in the history of cricket.

[chaddyrovers]

  On 05/07/2022 at 17:05, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Maybe because no other team has ever chased down a score like that in the fourth innings to win at Test Match at Edgbaston  in the history of cricket.

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Records are there to be broken and England are beating records under Ben Stokes and Brendon McCullum

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

As I said earlier - what can we say. The batting has been great,  but don’t forget you have to bowl teams out twice normally to win games and we have done.

[DeeCee]

Our cricket was good, their bowling wasn't.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Maybe they didn’t know where to bowl to us once we went for them ?

[jim mk2]

  On 05/07/2022 at 17:05, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Maybe because no other team has ever chased down a score like that in the fourth innings to win at Test Match at Edgbaston  in the history of cricket.

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The 9th highest chased-down score in Test match history ....... only a one-eyed England superfan would have expected us to do that

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

  On 05/07/2022 at 20:29, jim mk2 said:

 

The 9th highest chased-down score in Test match history ....... only a one-eyed England superfan would have expected us to do that

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If you’d have told me this team was going to chase down four totals to win four games I’d have given you big odds. Even one chase down would have been something special only 6 months ago.

[chaddyrovers]

  On 05/07/2022 at 17:36, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

As I said earlier - what can we say. The batting has been great,  but don’t forget you have to bowl teams out twice normally to win games and we have done.

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Well Ben Stokes has managed the bowlers very well. Matthew Potts has been very good. Jack Leach has been very different under Ben Stokes 

  On 05/07/2022 at 20:13, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Maybe they didn’t know where to bowl to us once we went for them ?

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Their captain didn't know what to do. Maybe they should have pick the best spinner then  

  On 05/07/2022 at 20:29, jim mk2 said:

 

The 9th highest chased-down score in Test match history ....... only a one-eyed England superfan would have expected us to do that

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Or maybe you should have faith and belief in this team under Ben Stokes and Brendon McCullum. Plus players playing very well. 

[jim mk2]

  On 05/07/2022 at 22:00, chaddyrovers said:

Or maybe you should have faith and belief in this team under Ben Stokes and Brendon McCullum. Plus players playing very well. 

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Chasing around 380 to win batting 4th ....... it had only happened 8 times in more than 140 years of Test cricket

"Expecting" England to do it was unrealistic (putting it politely), even in the new Bazball era

 

 

Edited July 5, 2022 by jim mk2

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

  On 05/07/2022 at 22:00, chaddyrovers said:

Well Ben Stokes has managed the bowlers very well. Matthew Potts has been very good. Jack Leach has been very different under Ben Stokes 

Their captain didn't know what to do. Maybe they should have pick the best spinner then  

Or maybe you should have faith and belief in this team under Ben Stokes and Brendon McCullum. Plus players playing very well. 

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Potts has come on in the nick of time when you consider how many of our “ younger “ pace bowlers seem to be injury prone.

[chaddyrovers]

  On 05/07/2022 at 22:05, jim mk2 said:

Chasing around 380 to win batting 4th ....... it 

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Pitch weren't unplayable or spinning loads or low bounce. 

Plus the way we playing under this new captain Ben Stokes and test coach Brendan McCullum shows anything is possible under these

[chaddyrovers]

  On 05/07/2022 at 22:10, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Potts has come on in the nick of time when you consider how many of our “ younger “ pace bowlers seem to be injury prone.

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Jamie Overton did well in the one test he played

[jim mk2]

  On 05/07/2022 at 22:19, chaddyrovers said:

Pitch weren't unplayable or spinning loads or low bounce. 

Plus the way we playing under this new captain Ben Stokes and test coach Brendan McCullum shows anything is possible under these

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Bairstow was lucky, should have been out a couple of times. Anything could have happened if he had gone and the odds were heavily in India's favour at the start of the innings

That's why the win was unexpected. 

[Exiled_Rover]

  On 05/07/2022 at 22:05, jim mk2 said:

Chasing around 380 to win batting 4th ....... it had only happened 8 times in more than 140 years of Test cricket

"Expecting" England to do it was unrealistic (putting it politely), even in the new Bazball era

 

 

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These last 4 wins have basically defied the odds - record run chase after record run chase. 

[Gav]

  On 05/07/2022 at 22:20, jim mk2 said:

Bairstow was lucky, should have been out a couple of times.

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You told us Bairstow had poor technique, no cricketing brain and wasn't a test match batsman.

Those comments look rather silly right now. 

[jim mk2]

  On 06/07/2022 at 11:36, Gav said:

You told us Bairstow had poor technique, no cricketing brain and wasn't a test match batsman.

Those comments look rather silly right now. 

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Not really. He's been in one-day mode in the past few weeks. Bazball and run chases clearly suit him. He's only got one way of playing - which is to attack. I'd like to see him get his head down and grind out a century in difficult conditions to show he's a true Test match player. He's proved nothing to me. Cricket not your strong point. 

[47er]

  On 06/07/2022 at 11:36, Gav said:

You told us Bairstow had poor technique, no cricketing brain and wasn't a test match batsman.

Those comments look rather silly right now. 

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Bairstow's form has been incredible but the situation has suited him perfectly----chasing runs on the last day on an English pitch. Played like its a 20-20.

Do you really think he could lead England to make nearly 400 in the 4th innings at The Adelaide Oval. Or the Gabba?

That's the bar which England has to strive for.

This summer has been hugely enjoyable but out bowlers don't travel and our top order are woeful.

Encouraging start but a long, long way to go.