Cricket

[den]

Be careful when using the term Bazball. It can be taken to mean reckless cricket but in my opinion it’s simply about being positive in everything they do. It doesn’t have to be reckless.

Controlled aggression , being on top of your opponent in every way is the only way to be top at any sport in my opinion.

Edited June 30, 2023 by den

[jim mk2]

Stokes gone in the first over..... and now Brook too

Bazball in my opinion is epitomised by reckless cricket. In the first Test England at times batted recklessly, giving their wickets away needlessly; the declaration was reckless, ultimately costing England the match.

The session yesterday when Australia were struggling and run out of ideas and resorted to bouncers, England decided to take them on and gave away 3 wickets in less than an hour. That was reckless. 

According to the laws of Bazball, draws are not allowed apparently so there looks to be only one outcome in this match

 

 

 

[47er]

Looking at 0-2 I'm afraid. Baz ball in the undiluted way we're playing it will never defeat the World Champions.

Started the day roughly evens, thrown away in half an hour.

Back to the drawing board chaps.

[Ewood Ace]

3 hours ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

We don't have the big pool of players to pick from like Australia do.

We have 18 first class counties, Australia have just 6 first class states. We have more than double the number of professional cricketers in England.

[AllRoverAsia]

Bairstow gives a dolly.

Lemmings.

Edited June 30, 2023 by AllRoverAsia

[oldjamfan1]

A poor morning to say the least. We need to try and get to within about 50 if we can, it looks a decent day to be bowling. Not over yet by a long chalk.

[jim mk2]

From the BBC

Many of the Australians in the press box have always been intrigued but doubtful of Bazball on their first exposure to it. Today they're just shaking their heads in disbelief, feeling entirely vindicated.

Giving this lot the chance to crow is the most infuriating of all. 

[oldjamfan1]

Many a slip twixt cup and lip Jim. Crowing is a bit premature really. I’ve watched cricket for long enough to know that this game could still have twists and turns in it yet.

[47er]

19 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

We have 18 first class counties, Australia have just 6 first class states. We have more than double the number of professional cricketers in England.

Quantity over quality though?

[Norbert Rassragr]

Their bowlers seem to be in better form of han ours, which is bad when you are facing the likes of Smith.

[jim mk2]

6 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

Many a slip twixt cup and lip Jim. Crowing is a bit premature really. I’ve watched cricket for long enough to know that this game could still have twists and turns in it yet.

Eight down. Even my prediction of 350 is looking a bit hopeful now

Still, it's "aggressive" and "entertaining" so the fans are happy 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

The Aussies can declare when they get a 200 lead. 
You could have made that an 150 lead if Lyon was still playing.

Bye bye Ashes.

Edited June 30, 2023 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[AllRoverAsia]

England run rate of 4.27 slightly better than Aussies 4.13.

Thing is they batted 100 overs and we survived just 76.

In the first Test the Aussies batted a bit over 3 whilst we were well ahead on RR. Who won? The team who batted long and deep.

Simple Maths.

[oldjamfan1]

3 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

The Aussies can declare when they get a 200 lead. 

That’s the thing though, this England side are actually pretty good at chasing down targets. That’s arguably been the biggest change since ‘Bazball’ 

[den]

Just now, AllRoverAsia said:

England run rate of 4.27 slightly better than Aussies 4.13.

Thing is they batted 100 overs and we survived just 76.

In the first Test the Aussies batted a bit over 3 whilst we were well ahead on RR. Who won? The team who batted long and deep.

Simple Maths.

The simple thing is that England weren’t prepared for the short ball barrage and had no idea what to do about it.

[AllRoverAsia]

6 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

The Aussies can declare when they get a 200 lead. 
You could have made that an 150 lead if Lyon was still playing.

Bye bye Ashes.

They will leave a bigger target, we can hardly bat out a full day and there's a lot of time yet to play.

Edited June 30, 2023 by AllRoverAsia

[AllRoverAsia]

1 minute ago, den said:

The simple thing is that England weren’t prepared for the short ball barrage and had no idea what to do about it.

Sensibly leaving would be anti Bazzball.

[jim mk2]

Bazball dictates that you attack at all times, even bouncers that normally you'd duck under or leave alone. Duckett's quotes after the end of play yesterday said as much. - "no regrets about how he got out".  England have to come out and admit they have got it badly wrong instead of doubling down and insisting they're going to keep playing the same reckless way

[den]

6 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Sensibly leaving would be anti Bazzball.

Silly statement ARA.

[den]

1 minute ago, jim mk2 said:

Bazball dictates that you attack at all times, even bouncers that normally you'd duck under or leave alone. Duckett's quotes after the end of play yesterday said as much. - "no regrets about how he got out".  England have to come out and admit they have got it badly wrong instead of doubling down and insisting they're going to keep playing the same reckless way

Their record under Stokes and McCullum says exactly the opposite. 

[jim mk2]

Just now, den said:

Their record under Stokes and McCullum says exactly the opposite. 

 

This series, the most important of all. 

[den]

1 minute ago, jim mk2 said:

 

This series, the most important of all. 

and?

last Ashes test series we lost 4-0. That was better? 

[jim mk2]

5 minutes ago, den said:

and?

last Ashes test series we lost 4-0. That was better? 

 

We've not lost an Ashes series at home for 20 years - it's not looking good for Bazball at the moment

[47er]

Mix Bazball with some common sense and we might get somewhere.

[wilsdenrover]

5 minutes ago, 47er said:

Mix Bazball with some common sense and we might get somewhere.

Common sense and humility.