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25 minutes ago, only2garners said:

Having now spent some time sat in Old Trafford looking at the permutations I agree but the key is to finish second so we get a home quarter final. That will probably mean beating Northants here on Sunday.

This game looks doomed to be a no result. Unfortunately it looks like Notts will win tonight and they have whipping boys Leicestershire at home on Sunday so second place looks unlikely.

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9 minutes ago, only2garners said:

This game looks doomed to be a no result. Unfortunately it looks like Notts will win tonight and they have whipping boys Leicestershire at home on Sunday so second place looks unlikely.

Rain has started at Notts but still playing.

Bears have recovered well after that amazing first over loss of 4 wickets.

Yates is still in so Bears with a chance but could go DLS

Edit. Gone off. Notts lead on DLS. Yates just hit 16 of the final over before they went off. I hope they come back.

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Firstly, disappointed that Lancashire Yorkshire game has been called off without any play being possible 

Secondly, Disappointed by England's batting today and Brook needs to sort his game out against the short ball. England should have had a lead today and batting all day considering they are without Lyon for the rest of series mostly likely. We didn't. disappointed day 

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6 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I'm not sure what drawing board you're going to - they have better players from 1-11.

I agreed a few pages back that only Root would make the Aussie eleven. The issue is how do you try to make up the difference?

Its not by Bazball is it?

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6 hours ago, 47er said:

I agreed a few pages back that only Root would make the Aussie eleven. The issue is how do you try to make up the difference?

It’s not by Bazball is it?

Posters have short memories, we’ve just had a historic winter victory in Pakistan, in fact a 3-0 series sweep, which is unheard of in the history of English cricket.

We are now playing the best team in the world, we’re competitive, don’t forget we got hammered 0/4 the last time we played them and got nowhere near.

Give me bazball every day of the week instead of surrendering behind a team of blockers, that can’t block.

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“All we make is entertainment, a sad indictment of what we’re good at”, sang the Manics in their track railing against Thatcherism and it applies to this England team too

We haven’t lost an Ashes series at home to this lot in 20 years. Likely defeat in this match makes that almost inevitable. As on field captain Stokes is the main culprit for taking this silly Bazball ideology to extremes. The other lot cannot believe what they’re seeing. Their media is laughing.

But hey, it’s entertainment 

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47 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

“All we make is entertainment, a sad indictment of what we’re good at”, sang the Manics in their track railing against Thatcherism and it applies to this England team too

We haven’t lost an Ashes series at home to this lot in 20 years. Likely defeat in this match makes that almost inevitable. As on field captain Stokes is the main culprit for taking this silly Bazball ideology to extremes. The other lot cannot believe what they’re seeing. Their media is laughing.

But hey, it’s entertainment 

What do they say about keep doing the same things over and over again?

Same principle applies when you keep saying the same things over and over again…

I think you’ve made your view on this crystal clear Jim but everyone is talking as though we have lost not only this game but the series. We haven’t yet.

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I have never seen us lose a day in person 

After some fantastic breakfast in Elephant and Castle we are on our way. We will skittle these this morning; give ourselves 300 to chase and Crawley will absolutely piss a century this afternoon 

I’ve also had a beer with breakfast so I could be talking nonsense 

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I can't believe some of comments about us losing this game which we haven't yet. Some people have such a deafist attitude to life and everything. 

We are still in this game and it's 2 days to go. 

England shouldn't stop playing the attacking mind set cricket. Just need to be smarter with shot selection and not playing some of the short stuff

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12 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I can't believe some of comments about us losing this game which we haven't yet. Some people have such a deafist attitude to life and everything. 

We are still in this game and it's 2 days to go. 

England shouldn't stop playing the attacking mind set cricket. Just need to be smarter with shot selection and not playing some of the short stuff

After burning so many bridges over the years, often its the only way to get any attention at all. 

All is not lost, Dreams is at Lords today and he doesn't usually see us lose!

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I'm thinking that Bazball is all too likely to hand the initiative to the opposition than to us when we play a good side.. We score at a faster rate than them because we take more risks. Therefore we lose more wickets and we give them more time to plod to a big score and more time to get us out. We to have forgotten its a 5 day game.

We dominated the  last test against New Zealand for 4+ days, had them following on and managed to lose. We had times in the first Ashes test to win it but gave our wickets away too cheaply.

Both go down as among  the best Test matches ever staged--- but we lost both!

If we'd batted more sensibly in the first innings of the current Test, we'd have lost wickets more slowly. scored more runs and, importantly, took up more time.

Take every ball on its merits should be the basis of our batting philosophy. if its there to be hit--hit it but don't play 20-20 cricket in a 5 Day Test.

 

 

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25 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I can't believe some of comments about us losing this game which we haven't yet. Some people have such a deafist attitude to life and everything. 

We are still in this game and it's 2 days to go. 

England shouldn't stop playing the attacking mind set cricket. Just need to be smarter with shot selection and not playing some of the short stuff

Arrogant as usual.

You realise, probably not, that criticism is coming from many quarters. Listen to TMS.

I apologise for responding to your post as usually I just ignore rubbish.

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35 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

I have never seen us lose a day in person 

After some fantastic breakfast in Elephant and Castle we are on our way. We will skittle these this morning; give ourselves 300 to chase and Crawley will absolutely piss a century this afternoon 

I’ve also had a beer with breakfast so I could be talking nonsense 

Hope you have a fantastic day Dreams ✊🏻🍻

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44 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

What do they say about keep doing the same things over and over again?

and expecting the same result. Definition of madness attributed to Einstein

Let's see how England play in their second innings. I'm not hopeful

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17 minutes ago, Gav said:

After burning so many bridges over the years, often its the only way to get any attention at all. 

All is not lost, Dreams is at Lords today and he doesn't usually see us lose!

I totally agree there that all is not lost. I am looking forward to today play and watching it on Sky Sports. 

We have to play smart cricket today and I still believe that England can win this game. 

We need the Old Jimmy Anderson back on song today  

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31 minutes ago, 47er said:

I'm thinking that Bazball is all too likely to hand the initiative to the opposition than to us when we play a good side.. We score at a faster rate than them because we take more risks. Therefore we lose more wickets and we give them more time to plod to a big score and more time to get us out. We to have forgotten its a 5 day game.

We dominated the  last test against New Zealand for 4+ days, had them following on and managed to lose. We had times in the first Ashes test to win it but gave our wickets away too cheaply.

Both go down as among  the best Test matches ever staged--- but we lost both!

If we'd batted more sensibly in the first innings of the current Test, we'd have lost wickets more slowly. scored more runs and, importantly, took up more time.

Take every ball on its merits should be the basis of our batting philosophy. if its there to be hit--hit it but don't play 20-20 cricket in a 5 Day Test.

 

 

As you say play every ball on its merits. I get the feeling that our guys have decided on the shot before the bowler has let go of the ball. That’s fatal.

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1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

We need the Old Jimmy Anderson back on song today  

Unfortunately that is what we have now. One of the all time greats, but alas Father Time waits for no man, even though he’s outran him longer than most.

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