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2 minutes ago, Mellor Rover said:

The Aussies are absolutely ruthless, when their foot is on the throat they keep the pressure on.

The shot by Bairstow, as den says, was awful, but your point still stands.

They're the best side in the world, we should keep that in mind.

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5 minutes ago, RoverDom said:

Imagine having the aussies at 80-4 and chucking it away....

They always have one or two to play them out of a rut, collapses are relatively rare. England on the other hand ....

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This was on the BBC the other day. Conceding loads more extras, dropping catches and having a non-keeper is hurting. Man for man - there's not many other than Root that you'd probably have in the Australian team. But we're giving them a game, just throwing it away every time.
 

 

The numerical facts are that England have scored 1260 runs off the bat to Australia's 1245.

After Stokes' eight-wickets-down declaration and Australia's two-wicket win at Edgbaston, followed by a 40-wicket second Test (only the fourth Lord's Ashes Test out of 37 in which all possible wickets have fallen), both sides have lost 38 wickets.

Thus, England's batting line-up has a collective average of 33.1, Australia's 32.7.

England have, however, conceded 60 more extras than Australia (118 to 58), leaving them 45 runs behind in total, accounting for the 43-run margin at Lord's and the two runs by which the Baggy Greensters overtook England at Edgbaston.

England are the 274th team in men's Test history to find themselves 2-0 down after two Tests of a series.

As you would probably expect, none of the previous 273 had a higher collective batting average after those two Tests than the opposition against whom they have lost consecutive matches (and only a handful have come close).

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3 hours ago, Gav said:

It didn’t look like going down to the wire at one point Asia, it was a good fight back.

Lancashire tonight 👍

Bears batting never really recovered from the early loss of Yates.

Essex were plodding to victory when Lawrence played his first tash shot, he should have just kept it going at a run a ball until the 18th or 19th.

I thought Essex had blown it but good to see Bears out.

I will be glued to YouTube watching Lancs tonight 👌

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What a player Stokes is. When everyone before him look like they could get out at any ball, he comes in and makes it look easy. 
 

He’s played and missed a few times but so did all the Aussie batsmen. He can play the classical game and he can completely destroy the opposition.

watch him get out now.

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7 minutes ago, den said:

What a player Stokes is. When everyone before him look like they could get out at any ball, he comes in and makes it look easy. 
 

He’s played and missed a few times but so did all the Aussie batsmen. He can play the classical game and he can completely destroy the opposition.

watch him get out now.

Wrong batter, but yeah, Ali is gone

Luckily Woakes and Wood aren't stupid with the bat. Stokes will counter now so I imagine we will start to see runs fly

Australia will be in bat before the day is out; how much they lead by depends on how well the tail stick around

They'll bounce Woakes all day

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Moeen with his usual little cameo and then gets out. Just another example of brainless batting

And right before lunch Woakes gives his wicket away. Four wickets in the session. This isn't England losing to the "best team in the world"; this is us being casual and making it too easy

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Silly by Woakes with lunch coming up. Just leave them well alone. It's not rocket science.

The plan should have been for him to stay in and support Stokes after lunch when Stokes will cut lose.

If, somehow, we can get within say 50 of the convicts then this Test is still open.

Stokes is there and the others to come must do their duty and bat as defensively as they can to keep Stokes at the crease as long as possible. If he's in we score.

 

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5 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

They think they have to score off every ball ! Onedayitis.

It works against inferior teams and will work against teams like NZ and India sometimes, the convicts are the polar opposite of inferior or indeed similar standard to us.

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11 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

They think they have to score off every ball ! Onedayitis.

Moeen didn't play that way for the most part, he was trying to stick around with some quality shots at times.

Woakes was bounced out trying to project himself.

Its not all bazball as some would have you think. 

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Australia are terrified of Stokes they have no clue how to get him out and are basically just hoping that he miss hits one in the air.

2 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

In theory - the tail is fairly strong.

In theory.

The problem is the tail starts at 7.

2 hours ago, Mellor Rover said:

The Aussies are absolutely ruthless, when their foot is on the throat they keep the pressure on.

They lost 6 wickets for 23 runs yesterday.

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We get them out for 275 or less I do believe it's our game.

Step up our bowlers and do them a second time.

He'll I'm in a good mood. Had a furious row with the wife and her interfering with my defrosting the fridge and fecking my system up.

I must have one more often.

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