Cricket

[chaddyrovers]

25 minutes ago, RoverDom said:

Can categorically say that he absolutely is and could find you a dozen teachers that would say so (and much worse). As a sportsman though fantastic. 

blimey that was 16 years ago. Think it time to leave what a person was like at School in the past. 

 

[jim mk2]

And this is how they celebrated and see us in HMP Australia

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/66287786

And some silly people think it's fine for England to lose in the name of "entertainment"

Get real

[chaddyrovers]

Who cares how they are celebrating. I couldn't give a damn to be honest. 

Some people are stuck in the past and now willing to modernise how teams play test cricket. The paying public is not willing to pay top prices to watch slow boring non entertaining cricket all over the world. 

[RoverDom]

I'd rather watch slow boring cricket than no cricket at all. It needs to build more flexibility into its timing so you can finish a game. That includes not letting teams get away with a slow over rate. 

[47er]

16 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Who cares how they are celebrating. I couldn't give a damn to be honest. 

Some people are stuck in the past and now willing to modernise how teams play test cricket. The paying public is not willing to pay top prices to watch slow boring non entertaining cricket all over the world. 

Close to 100000 at the MCG on Boxing day Chaddy! All delighted with a score of 230 for 2 at the end of the day!

[Ewood Ace]

25 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Who cares how they are celebrating. I couldn't give a damn to be honest. 

Some people are stuck in the past and now willing to modernise how teams play test cricket. The paying public is not willing to pay top prices to watch slow boring non entertaining cricket all over the world. 

The sad fact is that outside of England and for certain matches in Australia far too few of the public are paying any prices to watch test cricket. Just look at the crowds for the ongoing tests in Trinidad and Colombo.

[chaddyrovers]

23 minutes ago, RoverDom said:

I'd rather watch slow boring cricket than no cricket at all. It needs to build more flexibility into its timing so you can finish a game. That includes not letting teams get away with a slow over rate. 

Teams and captains get fined plus Dock ICC test points. There is already an extra 30 mins now. But most teams don't bowl their daily overs allowance. Down to ICC to come up with better plan with test playing countries 

13 minutes ago, 47er said:

Close to 100000 at the MCG on Boxing day Chaddy! All delighted with a score of 230 for 2 at the end of the day!

Exactly. All that for what cost of a ticket

2 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

The sad fact is that outside of England and for certain matches in Australia far too few of the public are paying any prices to watch test cricket. Just look at the crowds for the ongoing tests in Trinidad and Colombo.

Exactly my point Ewood. Crowds don't want to watch that type of cricket now. They want to be entertain now. Apart from England, India and Australia aren't interested in boring slow cricket. Sky Crickets commentators were talking about this Saturday morning. 

[Gav]

37 minutes ago, 47er said:

Close to 100000 at the MCG on Boxing day Chaddy! All delighted with a score of 230 for 2 at the end of the day!

Just wait until the next Ashes, we'll score that in an afternoon!

[Ewood Ace]

19 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Exactly my point Ewood. Crowds don't want to watch that type of cricket now. They want to be entertain now. Apart from England, India and Australia aren't interested in boring slow cricket. Sky Crickets commentators were talking about this Saturday morning. 

Test crowds in India are poor despite them over the last decade being the best team in the format. Crowds in Australia outside of Ashes test's and the boxing day test are rarely close to sell outs. The only country that sells out test cricket is England and that has nothing to do with the way England are playing, in 2021 despite winning just one test all summer grounds were packed.

International cricket as a whole not just test cricket is in trouble with the rise of franchise leagues and with the BCCI, ECB and CA continuing to widen the financial gap between themselves and other nations. 

20 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Teams and captains get fined plus Dock ICC test points. There is already an extra 30 mins now. But most teams don't bowl their daily overs allowance. Down to ICC to come up with better plan with test playing countries 

No it's not it's down to the team to bowl them there is absolutely no reason why sides should not be bowling 90 overs in 6 1/2 hours play.

[Dreams of 1995]

There should be a penalty for not bowling your overs in the allotted time. It isn’t as easy as saying extend time, as the artificial lighting would favour the bowling side. It could even encourage a slower rate if they knew they’d just turn the floodlights on 

Maybe a run deduction or extras applied at the current run rate x the amount of overs they miss. But again, the batters can hold up play. Labarschagne (sp?) in particular takes an age to set himself up every time he’s at the crease 

Cricket as a collective has to come up with better solutions to rain affected games. Whether they hold a 6th day in reserve if a certain amount of overs are missed; or there’s an investment in putting roofs on grounds so that it doesn’t take almost a hour to get the ground ready 

It also seemed bizarre that they took tea on day 4. All that time missed and they wasted more. It should have been a drinks break and continue 

[RoverDom]

Also man up and play in a bit of drizzle

[47er]

1 hour ago, Gav said:

Just wait until the next Ashes, we'll score that in an afternoon!

Then declare!

[47er]

2 hours ago, Ewood Ace said:

The sad fact is that outside of England and for certain matches in Australia far too few of the public are paying any prices to watch test cricket. Just look at the crowds for the ongoing tests in Trinidad and Colombo.

South Africa, New Zealand and, above all India still have enthusiasm for the long form of the game.

West Indies cricket is dying if its not dead already. Tragic when you roll off the list of truly great West Indian cricketers (starting with Learie Constantine). Incredible that we saw so many playing in the Lancashire League. Great days.

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, Ewood Ace said:

Test crowds in India are poor despite them over the last decade being the best team in the format. Crowds in Australia outside of Ashes test's and the boxing day test are rarely close to sell outs. The only country that sells out test cricket is England and that has nothing to do with the way England are playing, in 2021 despite winning just one test all summer grounds were packed.

Last time I watch India play in.India the crowd was full. Don't have access to watch Aussies in Australia. England fans like the test cricket format but will the younger generation coming through with t20 around now. Most England fans would have enjoyed how we played this summer

2 hours ago, Ewood Ace said:

International cricket as a whole not just test cricket is in trouble with the rise of franchise leagues and with the BCCI, ECB and CA continuing to widen the financial gap between themselves and other nations. 

Deffo with the number of franchise leagues around the world it is going to be problem in the future and is now for a number of international teams. 

2 hours ago, Ewood Ace said:

No it's not it's down to the team to bowl them there is absolutely no reason why sides should not be bowling 90 overs in 6 1/2 hours play.

Well depends why they didn't the overs in or not. But I stand by my comments it's down to the ICC to come up with a better plan to punish teams who don't play their overs in. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

12 hours ago, RoverDom said:

Also man up and play in a bit of drizzle

It’s not that simple. Try bowling with a wet ball.

[RoverDom]

10 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

It’s not that simple. Try bowling with a wet ball.

It's a soft sport.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 minute ago, RoverDom said:

It's a soft sport.

Not all sports are equal - do they play tennis in the rain ?

[jim mk2]

13 minutes ago, RoverDom said:

It's a soft sport.

 Silly statement by someone who's never played it. Try facing a hard 80mph ball 

[RoverDom]

4 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

 Silly statement by someone who's never played it. Try facing a hard 80mph ball 

At Lords we were aiming pelters at the head of a one legged tailender. Why is it all of a sudden dangerous to play in, for example, light rain to top order batsmen?

 

 

[den]

1 hour ago, RoverDom said:

At Lords we were aiming pelters at the head of a one legged tailender. Why is it all of a sudden dangerous to play in, for example, light rain to top order batsmen?

 

 

They often will play in light rain, but umpires have to take into consideration the ability of bowling with a wet ball ( have you tried it) and also the pitch getting too wet.

[AllRoverAsia]

20 hours ago, den said:

Give me Stokes and McCullums approach to winning tests matches any day of the week.

Some of you guys don’t remember the 5 day, 2 runs an over bore draws then?

I took zero enjoyment from poor hookers going at most bouncers in the earlier Test, plus wafting at balls better left alone or from poor keeping, too many no balls ...

We ALL like 4+ RPO if it doesn't mean.giving wickets away cheap.

We do have a good squad and would have won the 4th if not for the rains.

[AllRoverAsia]

Boycotts opinion. Go on, I dare you to slate one one England's finest whom I had the pleasure in watching.

https://wisden.com/series-stories/ashes-2023/geoffrey-boycott-when-you-start-to-believe-your-own-self-importance-then-sport-will-bite-you-on-the-backside-ashes-2023

[K-Hod]

1 minute ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Boycotts opinion. Go on, I dare you to slate one one England's finest whom I had the pleasure in watching.

https://wisden.com/series-stories/ashes-2023/geoffrey-boycott-when-you-start-to-believe-your-own-self-importance-then-sport-will-bite-you-on-the-backside-ashes-2023

Good batsman, still a wife beater though.

[AllRoverAsia]

7 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Good batsman, still a wife beater though.

That is an open question. Moore's record is not squeaky clean, see 2015 newspaper revelations

[jim mk2]

11 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Boycotts opinion. Go on, I dare you to slate one one England's finest whom I had the pleasure in watching.

https://wisden.com/series-stories/ashes-2023/geoffrey-boycott-when-you-start-to-believe-your-own-self-importance-then-sport-will-bite-you-on-the-backside-ashes-2023

 

The master. But at "2 runs an over" far too "boring" for the Playstation generation to watch

Some folk said Boycott was arrogant but Stokes's arrogance has cost England the Ashes series