Ewood Ace Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said: Ewood, Can I ask what would your squad be for the tour of India? Duckett, Crawley, Jennings, Pope (if fit, if not fit Jamie Smith), Root, Brook, Stokes, Hain, Foakes, Bairstow, Jacks, Leach, Dawson, Ahmed, Wood, Tongue, Robinson & Potts. 2 Quote
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chaddyrovers Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said: Duckett, Crawley, Jennings, Pope (if fit, if not fit Jamie Smith), Root, Brook, Stokes, Hain, Foakes, Bairstow, Jacks, Leach, Dawson, Ahmed, Wood, Tongue, Robinson & Potts. Firstly, thanks for answering the question. Jennings and Hain? interesting you left Woakes and Anderson at all Quote
Ewood Ace Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 Just now, chaddyrovers said: Firstly, thanks for answering the question. Jennings and Hain? interesting you left Woakes and Anderson at all Jennings is an excellent player of spin and could be needed if Duckett struggles with Ashwin as he did last time he toured India. Sam Hain I'm a huge fan of it staggers me that he has never played for England in any form of the game, if any upper or middle order batsman were to be unavailable he for me is the best player to bring in. Anderson I'm afraid is finished and England need to look forward. Woakes a fantastic bowler in England but inexplicably is poor overseas. Going forward I would be using Woakes solely at home. 1 Quote
matt83 Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 These 2 young lads for Lancs hurst and aspinwall look like they have a few shots in their locker. Aspinwall put one on to the cemetery over the bowlers head. I believe Hurst has the gloves too ahead of lavelle who is decent behind the stumps. So he must be useful there 1 Quote
Dreams of 1995 Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 You'd get the best out of Woakes using him solely at home. You'd also extend his career by a year or two It's good for nobody to be slogging out on poor wickets in India I don't think Jimmy will go there either, unless it is as some team role. Time to give some of the younger lads a chance Use Jimmy and Woakes in our Summer '24. Let Jimmy get his record, let Woakes carry on destroying teams on English pitches Quote
jim mk2 Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 15 hours ago, ChrisyG said: What's your all time XI, Jim? From about 1961 when I started taking an interest in cricket Boycott; Cook; Gooch; Dexter, Gower; Botham; Flintoff; Knott; Underwood; Snow; Trueman They're my personal favourites which includes IMO the best Test openers; the best 2 all-rounders, the best wicketkeeper; the best spin bowler; and the best fast bowlers. They're all proper Test players and the team includes some dashing batsmen that the instant cricket Bazballers would enjoy too Honourable mentions for the likes of Cowdrey, Graveney, Barrington, D'Oliveira, Barber, Milburn, Root, and if you went back to the 1950s you'd have to consider Laker, May, Compton and Hutton but as I say, they're my favourites of the ones of my era that I've enjoyed watching 3 Quote
47er Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, jim mk2 said: From about 1961 when I started taking an interest in cricket Boycott; Cook; Gooch; Dexter, Gower; Botham; Flintoff; Knott; Underwood; Snow; Trueman They're my personal favourites which includes IMO the best Test openers; the best 2 all-rounders, the best wicketkeeper; the best spin bowler; and the best fast bowlers. They're all proper Test players and the team includes some dashing batsmen that the instant cricket Bazballers would enjoy too Honourable mentions for the likes of Cowdrey, Graveney, Barrington, D'Oliveira, Barber, Milburn, Root, and if you went back to the 1950s you'd have to consider Laker, May, Compton and Hutton but as I say, they're my favourites of the ones of my era that I've enjoyed watching As a Lancastrian, what about Statham? Quote
chaddyrovers Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, jim mk2 said: From about 1961 when I started taking an interest in cricket Boycott; Cook; Gooch; Dexter, Gower; Botham; Flintoff; Knott; Underwood; Snow; Trueman They're my personal favourites which includes IMO the best Test openers; the best 2 all-rounders, the best wicketkeeper; the best spin bowler; and the best fast bowlers. They're all proper Test players and the team includes some dashing batsmen that the instant cricket Bazballers would enjoy too Honourable mentions for the likes of Cowdrey, Graveney, Barrington, D'Oliveira, Barber, Milburn, Root, and if you went back to the 1950s you'd have to consider Laker, May, Compton and Hutton but as I say, they're my favourites of the ones of my era that I've enjoyed watching Very good team there Jim. I started watching Cricket from 1996 so here my team based on watching cricket regular from then onwards Cook, Strauss(C), Vaughan, Root, Thorpe, Stewart(wk), Stokes, Swann, Gough, Harmison, Anderson Trott, Bell and Broad very unlucky not to make the team Edited August 1, 2023 by chaddyrovers Quote
Gav Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, jim mk2 said: From about 1961 when I started taking an interest in cricket Boycott; Cook; Gooch; Dexter, Gower; Botham; Flintoff; Knott; Underwood; Snow; Trueman They're my personal favourites which includes IMO the best Test openers; the best 2 all-rounders, the best wicketkeeper; the best spin bowler; and the best fast bowlers. They're all proper Test players and the team includes some dashing batsmen that the instant cricket Bazballers would enjoy too Honourable mentions for the likes of Cowdrey, Graveney, Barrington, D'Oliveira, Barber, Milburn, Root, and if you went back to the 1950s you'd have to consider Laker, May, Compton and Hutton but as I say, they're my favourites of the ones of my era that I've enjoyed watching Thats a hell of a side Jim and all credit to you for posting it to be shot at! Some of those greats I've never seen, but no Joe Root in the side? An honourable mention, but he doesn't make the batting lineup? Anderson? I'd be interested why Root or Anderson don't get in, maybe even Swann for the spin option. But still a tremendous side. Edited August 1, 2023 by Gav 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Ewood Ace said: Jennings is an excellent player of spin and could be needed if Duckett struggles with Ashwin as he did last time he toured India. Sam Hain I'm a huge fan of it staggers me that he has never played for England in any form of the game, if any upper or middle order batsman were to be unavailable he for me is the best player to bring in. Fair enough, You make very good argument here. I would take Lawrence and Foakes as my back up players for the Batting. I guess we need another opener in case either opener gets ill or injury. 3 hours ago, Ewood Ace said: Anderson I'm afraid is finished and England need to look forward. Woakes a fantastic bowler in England but inexplicably is poor overseas. Going forward I would be using Woakes solely at home. I would keep Anderson and take him to India myself as the bowler who will keep it tight and block an end up 3 hours ago, matt83 said: These 2 young lads for Lancs hurst and aspinwall look like they have a few shots in their locker. Aspinwall put one on to the cemetery over the bowlers head. I believe Hurst has the gloves too ahead of lavelle who is decent behind the stumps. So he must be useful there Very pleasing to here. Quote
jim mk2 Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, 47er said: As a Lancastrian, what about Statham? Good shout, though I did get Flintoff in Quote
Gav Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 It’s 176 days until the next England men’s test match, how will we cope? Quote
joey_big_nose Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Gav said: It’s 176 days until the next England men’s test match, how will we cope? Not bad for a £900k a year contract for each England player! I intermittently watch cricket, but got completely absorbed by this years ashes which was outrageous in terms of how much the games turned back and forth each day. Never seen anything like it. I am now looking forward to watching the India away series which compared to an Australia/NZ away series will be on at quite a watchable time (4pm to 12am UK time). Will also get tickets for Old Trafford for the Sri Lanka test next year. Think England going for the ultra aggressive batting approach makes sense. The more they play it the better they get, and it will pull the crowds in. On the whole I think a neutral would look across the Ashes series and say England's batting approach looked more competitive. After Australia India are the team to beat so will be interesting to see how Bazball works against a high class side on sub continent pitches. 2 Quote
AllRoverAsia Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 5 hours ago, Gav said: It’s 176 days until the next England men’s test match, how will we cope? Test cricket got me through the summer and more or less kept me away from the football transfer thread which can only have been a good thing. Stacks of ODIs and Rounders to come this year and then on to the Passage to India. 2 Quote
RoverDom Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 Watched some of the Hundred last night, was not a fan. Quote
Mattyblue Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 All the noises are that it will be gone fairly soon (certainly the men’s competition). The only fly in the ointment is that the TV deal lasts another five years, but I imagine they’ll do some kind of fudge to save face, I.e ‘merging’ the T20 Blast and this abomination. Let’s invent yet another format that no other countries play, hardly any top overseas players come over for and even a load of England players don’t play much of either. A nadir for a board that has a habit of making bone headed decisions. Quote
AllRoverAsia Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, RoverDom said: Watched some of the Hundred last night, was not a fan. I won't go out of my way to watch it, it's just a repeat T20 with odd rules that just fecks up the English cricket calendar. It will die a death but probably not until after the current TV deal happens. Long term I'm more concerned about what Indian and American cash is up to in the US as that's clashing with our summer. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, Gav said: It’s 176 days until the next England men’s test match, how will we cope? Good point there Gav 2 hours ago, RoverDom said: Watched some of the Hundred last night, was not a fan. I don't watch it and I would prefer to extend the T20 competition to 16 games for each teams playing each others home and away in 2 divisions of 9 teams. Also allow our players to play in 50 overs competition and also play 2 more test matches and more international T20 and ODI in July and August. Edited August 2, 2023 by chaddyrovers Quote
RoverDom Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 18 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Good point there Gav I don't watch it and I would prefer to extend the T20 competition to 16 games for each teams playing each others home and away in 2 divisions of 9 teams. Also allow our players to play in 50 overs competition and also play 2 more test matches and more international T20 and ODI in July and August. I've never watched T20, how does it differ to the Hundred? It's only an extra 20 balls isn't it? Quote
Gav Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 If anyone is missing cricket, I'd advise you to read the first 20 pages of this thread, Ashes 2013 - Its bloody hilarious and predictable, some habits die hard it seems! Quote
berkshireblue Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 19 hours ago, jim mk2 said: From about 1961 when I started taking an interest in cricket Boycott; Cook; Gooch; Dexter, Gower; Botham; Flintoff; Knott; Underwood; Snow; Trueman They're my personal favourites which includes IMO the best Test openers; the best 2 all-rounders, the best wicketkeeper; the best spin bowler; and the best fast bowlers. They're all proper Test players and the team includes some dashing batsmen that the instant cricket Bazballers would enjoy too Honourable mentions for the likes of Cowdrey, Graveney, Barrington, D'Oliveira, Barber, Milburn, Root, and if you went back to the 1950s you'd have to consider Laker, May, Compton and Hutton but as I say, they're my favourites of the ones of my era that I've enjoyed watching I started watching in the 80's Gooch Cook Gower Root Pietersen Stokes Botham Stewart (WK) Flintoff Underwood Anderson Boycott (too slow a scorer ) Willis, Knott, Broad and Lamb in the squad Best openers, 3 best all rounders Stokes playing when he could bowl , 4 brilliant new ball bowlers, best spinner, Stewart edges Knott for his batting, 1-9 brilliant batsmen Quote
berkshireblue Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 3 hours ago, RoverDom said: Watched some of the Hundred last night, was not a fan. its garbage ECB should have invested in T20 Blast, at least they have a supporter base Quote
jim mk2 Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, berkshireblue said: I started watching in the 80's Gooch Cook Gower Root Pietersen Stokes Botham Stewart (WK) Flintoff Underwood Anderson Boycott (too slow a scorer ) Willis, Knott, Broad and Lamb in the squad Best openers, 3 best all rounders Stokes playing when he could bowl , 4 brilliant new ball bowlers, best spinner, Stewart edges Knott for his batting, 1-9 brilliant batsmen The theory is one of Boycott or Cook could bat all day, tire out the bowlers and dashing middle order batsmen would pile on the runs. Boycott could raise his rate of scoring when he wanted; it's just that like Cook he set his stall out to bat all day long - which I like Stewart was an adequate wicketkeeper but I remember him making mistakes which I don't remember Knott ever doing. By most consensus he and Godfrey Evans are England's best-ever wicketkeepers You'd have to have one of your all rounders opening the bowling - which isn't right. I've got 2 specialist fast bowlers - and 2 of the meanest, "nastiest" bowlers I ever saw - with 2 all-rounders as change bowlers. You can't have Flintoff at No 9, he'd have no one to bat with - Underwood and Anderson are rabbits I think you're team's unbalanced and I much prefer mine but it's all personal preference Edited August 2, 2023 by jim mk2 Quote
Ewood Ace Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 20 hours ago, jim mk2 said: From about 1961 when I started taking an interest in cricket Boycott; Cook; Gooch; Dexter, Gower; Botham; Flintoff; Knott; Underwood; Snow; Trueman They're my personal favourites which includes IMO the best Test openers; the best 2 all-rounders, the best wicketkeeper; the best spin bowler; and the best fast bowlers. They're all proper Test players and the team includes some dashing batsmen that the instant cricket Bazballers would enjoy too Honourable mentions for the likes of Cowdrey, Graveney, Barrington, D'Oliveira, Barber, Milburn, Root, and if you went back to the 1950s you'd have to consider Laker, May, Compton and Hutton but as I say, they're my favourites of the ones of my era that I've enjoyed watching No quite old enough to be able to remember Hutton & Compton but being able to go back to the late 50's I'd go with. Gooch, Cook, Barrington, May, Pietersen, Stokes, Flintoff, Evans, Laker, Trueman, Willis. 12th man Underwood Quote
Dreams of 1995 Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 Joe Root must be wondering what he has to do in here!! 2 Quote
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