[Archived] Never Again !

[spiderpig]

After watching the friendly at Rochdale on Saturday I have decided never to attend an away fixture again . I was disgusted and embarrassed by the behaviour of an element of Rovers' supporters - in fact after 15 minutes I asked a steward to escort me to a different part of the ground - it was either that or leave .In almost 50 years watching our team I have seen standards fall to an unacceptable level .These gross individuals seem to think that normal rules of decency and respect don't apply if you are at a football match . Aggressive vulgar abuse ( directed at our own players !) is not something I want to listen to . Shout and swear and all you want in your own home or out of earshot of decent people .

We have a problem with these aggressive vulgar idiots - to me worse than anything caused by the present owners , recent managers or overpaid players . Do you want your children or grandchildren to attend Ewood Park in the future if it is populated by loud , aggressive morons . Think about it .

[donnermeat]

May I ask what the Ramadan related chant was? So I can draw my own conclusion on that please.

[tomphil]

After watching the friendly at Rochdale on Saturday I have decided never to attend an away fixture again . I was disgusted and embarrassed by the behaviour of an element of Rovers' supporters - in fact after 15 minutes I asked a steward to escort me to a different part of the ground - it was either that or leave .In almost 50 years watching our team I have seen standards fall to an unacceptable level .These gross individuals seem to think that normal rules of decency and respect don't apply if you are at a football match . Aggressive vulgar abuse ( directed at our own players !) is not something I want to listen to . Shout and swear and all you want in your own home or out of earshot of decent people .

There was, it is sad to say, a racist element in the abuse of one player which referred to the effects of Ramadan on his performance . Is it any wonder people of certain creeds or cultures don't attend Ewood in numbers that reflect the population of East Lancashire .

We have a problem with these aggressive vulgar idiots - to me worse than anything caused by the present owners , recent managers or overpaid players . Do you want your children or grandchildren to attend Ewood Park in the future if it is populated by loud , aggressive morons . Think about it .

Clueless young lads brought up on a half decent Premier league team and they still have unrealistic expectations im afraid because they have no idea how to support a team. There has always been rowdy and vocal elements and so there should be, it's part and parcel of football and i don't agree that it's worse than in the 70's and 80's, no way. The thing is though that back then most of the time there was great vocals and encouragement for the team and players but these days if they can't happy clap when things are going ok then it's just rank abuse from start to finish from some, like i said some elements have no idea how to SUPPORT their team these days although i doubt it's unique to Rovers but the past few years ain't helped but there were plenty of goons before that it has to be said

[spiderpig]

May I ask what the Ramadan related chant was? So I can draw my own conclusion on that please.

The abuse ( I did not refer to it as a chant ) was directed at Best( who received a lot of stick for his performance ) from a person in the row behind me . It was along the lines of he's f ****** S*** because he's been fasting for Ramadan . This comment was thought to be funny by several others nearby who laughed heartily .

[onlyonejackwalker]

Nice sentiment, but where have you been for the last 50 years?

Having seen the Blackburn End hurl bunches of bananas at opposition goalkeepers, Rovers fans throwing coins into away supporters, Rovers fans lying in wait for opposition fans, Rovers fans targetting and destroying opposition pubs, racist and homeophobic chanting and behaviour, crowd unrest and violence countless times over the years, I cannot agree that the current classless, moronic element with their repetitive, insulting and boring chants are any worse than years gone by. I wonder when the normal decency and rules you allude to ever applied at football matches?

Young blokes. Away days. Drinking. Football matches. Vulgar language. Violence. Abuse. More drinking. More vulgarity and crassness. Hardly rocket science.

"Do you want your children or grandchildren to attend Ewood Park in the future if it is populated by loud , aggressive morons . Think about it"

Not really, but it has always been that way. First went on Rovers with my Gran when I was 7. Been taking my son since he was 6. Surrounded by drunken supporters on the Blackburn End for most years thereafter, with aggressive swearing and behaviour common place and most songs including swear words and foul chanting. Thankfully the organised violence of the 70's and 80's is fast diminishing and if it now boils down just to embarrassing chanting we can be relatively thankful.

Your kids won't suddenly turn into the louts you describe by going to the football and will still abide by and respect your parental rules and guidance. Sadly, they will hear similar or worse on the school playground.

[Blue n White Rover]

Probably the same scum that attend the EDL marches and the same ones that came up with the racist Owen Coyle chant.

It's a disgrace but nothing will be done about it.

[Tom]

I've found much the same on some local away trips (I should say I don't go away at all these days but not solely because of that)

I've been utterly embarrassed of a section of our fans at Bolton and Wigan before, sorry to generalise but each time it has seemed to be 16-17 year olds thinking they are big hard men

I presume every club has them, the best way is to report any unsuitable behaviour and hope it gets sorted.

I once wrote to John Williams about the Owen Coyle chant and he was keen to look into it

[donnermeat]

The abuse ( I did not refer to it as a chant ) was directed at Best( who received a lot of stick for his performance ) from a person in the row behind me . It was along the lines of he's f ****** S*** because he's been fasting for Ramadan . This comment was thought to be funny by several others nearby who laughed heartily .

Now although I consider this 'joke' to be in very poor taste, not to mention very untrue (he's sh1t because he's sh1t IMO), it also highlights the serious lack of intellect and sense of humour in whoever said it. Whether I would consider it to be a true racist comment I don't know, I believe that is up for discussion (not literally as I'm sure that is something nobody wants to get it into). However that takes no validity away from your original point spiderpig. It was still very distasteful and doesn't belong being said at all, nevermind at football games, if only for how stupid it is.

On your OP, you get planks in all walks of life wherever you go. Personally I don't like hearing it though I wouldn't consider not going to matches because of it.

Each to their own etc.

[Colt Seavers]

i was there with my 12 year old lad who was embarrassed that his dad had to listen to swearing (he thinks his generation invented it as we all did at that age).

all joking aside, we nearly stopped going away after our experiences at bristol and bolton last season. i was a regular as a youngster from the late 70s until the glory years when work commitments got in the way. i started going again with my son four or five years ago but have seen a huge change in behaviour compared to years gone by.

we have some real dregs type characters with vile, moronic ideals. the animals on the back row were an utter disgrace and should have been removed.

there is nowhere else in society where this thuggery and abusive language would be tolerated.

[cn174]

Whilst we're on the subject 'Jordan Rhodes is having a party, bring your vodka and your charlie' has to be one of the crappest football chants I've ever heard!

[onlyonejackwalker]

Whilst we're on the subject 'Jordan Rhodes is having a party, bring your vodka and your charlie' has to be one of the crappest football chants I've ever heard!

Crapper than 'hes big and hes black and he came by canoe - Etuhuuuuuu Etuhhuuuuu. Hes big and hes black and he looks like the yak - Etuhhuuuu Etuhhuuu? Or Chris Samba - Black Man? Get your t_ts out for the lads? 12 men...were playing 12 again? Your going home in a St Johns Ambulance? Who's the w****r in the black?

[Tom]

Whilst we're on the subject 'Jordan Rhodes is having a party, bring your vodka and your charlie' has to be one of the crappest football chants I've ever heard!

Its terrible but it doesn't register on the Owen Coyle scale that was in a league of its own, not even an iota of wit about it

[Muddboy]

I was there on Saturday.

I didn't hear the chant about Leon Best/ramadan, but the rest of the shennanigans was just another exhibition of willy-waving by lads (young and old) who were away from the missus or mum and dad for the afternoon.

It was real playground stuff: let's see who can use the most offensive swear word, who can shout the loudest, who can shout the funniest one-liner at the players blah, blah, blah...

Being surrounded by planks like this is not the way I would choose to spend my Saturday afternoon but there's no way I'm going to let it spoil a trip to an away ground. These people have been going to football matches for as long as I can remember and their behaviour just illustrates how some people in our society simply don't know how to behave with dignity and respect.

Has to be said that some of the songs were quite funny. The 'number 2 with a bad back' got a smile from me.

[Gally]

Whilst we're on the subject 'Jordan Rhodes is having a party, bring your vodka and your charlie' has to be one of the crappest football chants I've ever heard!

The strangest thing about it is that it's about Jordan Rhodes. Maybe you could understand it a little if it was about a Robbie Fowler or Gascoigne, but Rhodes looks like he wouldn't say boo to a goose.

[PAFELL]

Lets be honest it is not just at football matches you see such behaviour. But society as a whole. But many of them seem to attach themselves to football. All racists are just low life scum, no matter what team, or whatever they do in life. These days I would rather sit with the home suporters than sit with 'some' rovers fans.

[Tom]

Its not just racism though is it? There's plenty of homophobia and general abuse which can be just as bad

I don't think these guys specialise in just one kind of abuse they are just playing the hard man

[tomphil]

But 13/14 year old chavs drink vodka and probably take charlie if they get their paws on it these days so they prob see nowt wrong with the chant, it's what they think passes as support

[Jock]

What is the offensive Owen Coyle chant? is it the brain dead "i'd rather be a ______" . if it is it just needs everyone jeering them while its sung.They'll stop if you confront them. Theyre not the bravest souls.

[Mike E]

What is the offensive Owen Coyle chant? is it the brain dead "i'd rather be a ______" . if it is it just needs everyone jeering them while its sung.They'll stop if you confront them. Theyre not the bravest souls.

They'll not confront you, but they'll jump you on the way out.

[JBiz]

I was also suprised but it seemed only to be a handful of the "chavviest" Mofo's you have ever seen.

The Jordan Rhodes song is ridiculously bad, and the lashing of Lowe and Best was also disgusting. I will be going to more away games but It could get ugly if you have a few beers and find real offence to it. I am sure it was a lot of people being offended.

[M-K]

"They're by far the greatest team the world has ever seen"

That has to be the most moronic football chant because everyone singing knows it to be plainly untrue.

Maybe Barcelona fans might have had more justification than most if they'd adopted it a couple of years ago, but it probably doesn't scan very well in Spanish so they missed their chance.

[McClarky]

I remember coming back from Bolton on train a few years ago and people were shouting BNP/EDL out of the windows at some poor Asian bloke on the other platform at Chorley. That was a low point. Then being with my wee daughter in a train going back from Wigan with the whole thing rocking to songs about the BNP and general racist clap trap. Another low point. We're probnably no worse than anyone else but it is embarrasing and just wrong.

[PABBY]

I was at the match on Saturday with my 12 year old son, along with his mate who is currently observing Ramadan and whose first time it was watching Rovers. We were sat 15 rows or so up in the stand, towards the half-way line and, fortunately, I never heard the Ramadan comments, even though we were pretty near the vocal few. I hate to think what I might have done if I had heard the dim witted neanderthals.

[Jamesw1982]

I was stood right at the back and was part of the vocal lot so to speak. I am in no way rascist and never have been.

The ramadan mention wasnt aimed at no blackburn rovers player it was in jest at a friend of ours who has decided to grow a beard and we (not maliciously) mentioned he had grown it cos he was fasting for ramadam. There was 3 asian lads stood literally right behind me and they found it funny i asked them if i offended them and they said no and actually joined in the mickey taking.

ALSO, i was the person who started the hes got a bad back song which actually went down a treat cos the game wasnt at all entertaining.

If there was a chant and it wasnt by us i offer my apologies however nothing was intended to offend any1 in person.

[pick32]

I love going to away games more than the home matches, you do get the odd stupid chant but it never catches on and soon dies down. Away games are all about winding up the home fans in that 90minutes all mutual respect goes out the window which is the way it should be, I like the "(town/city) is a keanhole I want to go home" really gets on the home fans nerves which generates a great atmosphere.

One of the worst ones I've heard was the coach on the way to salzburgs ground which was "were not going to auschwitz na na na na"