[Archived] Jordan Rhodes

[den]

If we had signed 4-5 quality players instead of Rhodes then that would probably have cost more than £8 million. But just say to support your argument that we had got 4-5 top quality players for £8 Million then their wages combined would be considerably more than Rhodes wages and that would put the club in an even worse state financially than is currently is because the wage bill is too high already.

4 players earning what I believe is the average wage in this league - £8000/week is no more than what Rhodes is earning, allegedly. A good manager could also bring in 4 players for probably less than 8 million. Financially there's not a lot in it. You have also got to remember that we might have to take a huge hit on that £8m we paid out for Rhodes.

I'm boring myself now.

[somersetrover]

4 players earning what I believe is the average wage in this league - £8000/week is no more than what Rhodes is earning, allegedly. A good manager could also bring in 4 players for probably less than 8 million. Financially there's not a lot in it. You have also got to remember that we might have to take a huge hit on that £8m we paid out for Rhodes.

The average wage maybe £8000 a week, but that is not what a quality player would want a week. The clue is in the word average £8000 is what the average player gets paid I was replying to when you were talking about quality players who will want considerably more than £8000 a week, for the simple fact that they are quality players and not average.

Also I would not give Rhodes a new deal as I said previously his recent performances have been poor and if I could get £5.5 Million+ I would sell and replace him with Billy McKay for probably less than half of that fee received and at most half the wages of Rhodes.

[yoda's brother]

Poll is too simplistic because it isn't a black and white situation.

Could we sell Rhodes for the £8m that we paid for him?

Would Bowyer be granted permission to spend the money?

Are Huddersfield owed £5.5million, and would they be entitled to it immediately, leaving us with little or no money for squad improvement?

Does Bowyer have adequate replacements lined up?

Do we even trust him to spend such wealth sensibly?

yes it is. keep rhodes or get rid.

thats what it boils down to reading some of the posts.

[thenodrog]

If we had signed 4-5 quality players instead of Rhodes then that would probably have cost more than £8 million. But just say to support your argument that we had got 4-5 top quality players for £8 Million then their wages combined would be considerably more than Rhodes wages and that would put the club in an even worse state financially than is currently is because the wage bill is too high already.

Wrong imo. Because a similar number would have gone through the exit door.

[JBiz]

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[booth]

Not really. Not that I'm sticking up for our owners, ever... But they have invested quite a bit into this current squad. It's quite plain to see that we can't afford to have a player like Rhodes at his potential value while the rest of the squad needs strengthening badly. Just to add, I don't think people who are of the opinion that we should sell Rhodes are in the minority either and there's a reason for that.

If they sell Rhodes, I think that the money will more likely go into pleasing the bank manager than bolstering the squad.

I also don't think we will have a hope in hell of getting another prolific striker in.

[Tom]

For all the talk if we have a single one on one come Sunday I hope it falls to him

[thenodrog]

Indeed so Tom, nme too ...... unfortunately Bogdan did't adhere to the same premise did he?

[Tom]

I made the solid decision not to watch any of that game back and I didn't follow it live so not sure what happened

The good news is he's decided he wants to score today

[Hekla]

If he scores and we win, I will run around my house naked for 10 minutes.

[ABBEY]

Round your house ? Get in the f street man!! What's up with uou

[blondie]

Again showed how weak he is leading the line.Time for love fest to stop needs to add more to his game.

[Tom]

Great goal though he should have had at least one more

He could learn a hell of a lot from Ings, the commitment to winning the ball back is opposite ends of the spectrum

[thenodrog]

He could learn a hell of a lot from Ings, the commitment to winning the ball back is opposite ends of the spectrum

Indeed so. Ings not only harried the defence but he closed in on Robinson very quickly too. Defenders pressed in this way find it difficult to play telling passes and end up hoofing it upfield to no one in particular. Second half we repeatedly gained possession only to give it away within seconds. Simple tactics but effective. I get the feeling that Rhodes believes such honest graft is beneath him.

[booth]

On the flip side, Ings was helped by the fact his team was more eager to get forward and support him. He knew if he made a run, there'd be some movement from the players around him. When Rhodes runs, he'll maybe get one other person in support while the rest of them hang back in case we get hit on the break. And even with all those players back we still manage to concede goals.

[Stuart]

When we needed him to be Alan Shearer he gave us Jason Roberts.

I've tried to keep my head down on the Rhodes issue recently but that is garbage.

If you are hoping for anything close to Alan Shearer it's time for you to find a PL club to support.

Any comparisons with Roberts are also way wide of the mark. That's simply not his game.

Fed scraps and scores in a derby, and he is still singled out for criticism on here.

[thenodrog]

ings was fed scraps too but it didn't stop him putting a real shift in and giving our entire back line absolutely no time on the ball to 'build from the back' did it? He ran himself daft for the team effort and didn't stand off and allow our back 5 the freedom off the park did he?

In a nutshell Rhodes game was highlighted on Sunday by a cracking finish and precious little else. Quality that he has he is a tart liner first and foremost and that attitude will see him waste his real talent. He will always let not only us and his team mates down but himself too. He is a fool to himself.

[Tom]

Stuart I presume he was referring to the single 1 on 1 I mentioned

[Jimmy612]

I've tried to keep my head down on the Rhodes issue recently but that is garbage.

If you are hoping for anything close to Alan Shearer it's time for you to find a PL club to support.

Any comparisons with Roberts are also way wide of the mark. That's simply not his game.

Fed scraps and scores in a derby, and he is still singled out for criticism on here.

That's no surprise Stuart, he's been crap for two months

All seriousness though - excellent finish on Sunday and a decent first half performance. Unfortunately he faded in the second half, and as Theno pointed out above Ings, made him look lazy in comparison. Something I've been saying for months don't you know...

[1864roverite]

Ings had a big man alongside him as well as having support from midfield, something Rhodes didn't have.

Playing Henley allowed no support down the right flank so the right midfield was a problem from the off.

When Varney came inside he left Spurr also exposed with no support.

The team wasn't set up right. Henley should have been replaced by Kane who offers pace and support to the flank.

When dunny had done his shift the he should have been replaced by Williamson in the defensive slot, Reverting to 4-5-1 with Conway in the slot behind Rhodes thus allowing a counter attack formation.

It really is simple, GB made a grave error with his selection of Henley who has been torn apart 2 games running and the team has conceded 6 goals when in reality all 6 should have been avoided.

Now, if we fans can see the mistakes how can the management not ?

[CAPT KAYOS]

Ings had a big man alongside him as well as having support from midfield, something Rhodes didn't have.

Playing Henley allowed no support down the right flank so the right midfield was a problem from the off.

When Varney came inside he left Spurr also exposed with no support.

The team wasn't set up right. Henley should have been replaced by Kane who offers pace and support to the flank.

When dunny had done his shift the he should have been replaced by Williamson in the defensive slot, Reverting to 4-5-1 with Conway in the slot behind Rhodes thus allowing a counter attack formation.

It really is simple, GB made a grave error with his selection of Henley who has been torn apart 2 games running and the team has conceded 6 goals when in reality all 6 should have been avoided.

Now, if we fans can see the mistakes how can the management not ?

Agree with most of what you said with regard to set up and how obvious it was to spot which has me wavering re GB -however don't blind yourself to Rhodes' performance - he was shocking in the 2nd half (strange compared to how he performed in the first) -the support play may not have been brilliant but when he did get the ball he virtually gave it away every time be it by foot or the direction of his headers ( something he has never improved on since he has been here)

The question has to be what was said again at half time to warrant the ' the difference' in the second half especially with Rhodes who played as well as what I have seen from him in the Rovers shirt.

Henley is an enigma - what has gone wrong - looked very impressive on his first cameos but now looks completely out of his depth.

[Tom]

Felt sorry for Rhodes on one occasion he won a really good flick on that Dunn should have been on the end of instead Dunn made no effort to get there then sulked at Rhodes for not nodding it back to him

[thenodrog]

Felt sorry for Rhodes on one occasion he won a really good flick on that Dunn should have been on the end of instead Dunn made no effort to get there then sulked at Rhodes for not nodding it back to him

Dunn really looked his age all afternoon. Makes me wonder if he actually does even basic fitness training when he is playing wounded soldier at Brockhall. He had a right old rant at Conway too when it was his (Dunny's) own fault for selling him short after a corner. Quite rightly Bowyer took him off soon after.

[Tom]

That was shocking it was a lazy ball back to Conway then blamed Conway for it, shortly after he went down holding his face when nobody was near him I think maybe his legs had / have gone

[DE.]

There was another incident when one of our players tried to slip Dunn through with a nice through ball (I forget who) but Dunn was so slow he never got anywhere near it. His impact on the game was, imo, undeniable but his lack of pace and fitness was also very apparent and at times a hindrance.

Rhodes actually had a couple of decent flick ons on the second half but either Dunn was too slow or nobody was up with him to benefit because we were sat so deep. Tactics had more to do with Rhodes' ineffectiveness in the second half than his workrate. I'm not sure he's being given any instructions as to what he's supposed to do when the team drops deep and starts playing like a bunch of gutless cowards, because he starts to look totally lost when that occurs.