[Archived] The Gary Bowyer Thread

[JBiz]

Pointless ? Why ?

Bowyer already said top 6 or top 2. Or is he lying ?

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[ABBEY]

HOW SWEET

[Parsonblue]

Pointless ? Why ?

Bowyer already said top 6 or top 2. Or is he lying ?

I thought every manager in this division was targeting top six. They all can't be lying.

[yoda]

I wonder if the Venky's know about this up and coming manager

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-33710795

[JAL]

Just listened to Radio Lancashire interview ,

Just sounded like a "I'll do what I'm told and don't have a say" interview .

So whilst those plonkers in Pune are playing God with our team , other clubs in our division are well on their way to building their teams for next season .

Thing is , who is advising them if it is not bowyer ?[/quote)

Wasn't you backing up chaddy and Kamy along with this Mani fellow that Bowyer was in charge of transfers Glen.

[glen9mullan]

Just listened to Radio Lancashire interview ,

Just sounded like a "I'll do what I'm told and don't have a say" interview .

So whilst those plonkers in Pune are playing God with our team , other clubs in our division are well on their way to building their teams for next season .

Thing is , who is advising them if it is not bowyer ?[/quote)

Wasn't you backing up chaddy and Kamy along with this Mani fellow that Bowyer was in charge of transfers Glen.

Incomings , he is the one who puts them forward , outgoings is totally different

[Dunnfc]

Thought Venky's were being instructed by a new agent? The same agent actively touting our players to the PL.

[PeteJD13]

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Incomings , he is the one who puts them forward , outgoings is totally different

Sounds rather ominous but not totally surprising tbh

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

Interested to hear why we would be relegation certs under Bowyer when (baldy aside) he is the only manager we have had in the Championship who hasn't delivered relegation form??

Said it a few (hundred) times now, but it simply can't be overstated how bad Berg and Appleton were as managers. They both took over a team with the wage bill of a PL side, and the talent of minimum a top 6 play-off side, and both achieved relegation form with it. Berg spectacularly so, we'd have finished the season horrendously adrift in 24th if you extrapolated his record over a season.

They weren't bad, they weren't terrible, they weren't diabolical, they were both strong contenders for the worst manager in Rovers 140 year history. The reason being they were the first external managers in the club's history to be hired by the truly demented combination of a comedic Malayasian TV pundit, a blundering Preston reject with zero contacts in the game and some chicken farmers from India.

So yeah Bowyer was better than them, Black was better than them, Kean was miles better than them and I'd imagine a decent percentage of supporters would have been better than them.

[Stuart]

Said it a few (hundred) times now, but it simply can't be overstated how bad Berg and Appleton were as managers. They both took over a team with the wage bill of a PL side, and the talent of minimum a top 6 play-off side, and both achieved relegation form with it. Berg spectacularly so, we'd have finished the season horrendously adrift in 24th if you extrapolated his record over a season.

They weren't bad, they weren't terrible, they weren't diabolical, they were both strong contenders for the worst manager in Rovers 140 year history. The reason being they were the first external managers in the club's history to be hired by the truly demented combination of a comedic Malayasian TV pundit, a blundering Preston reject with zero contacts in the game and some chicken farmers from India.

So yeah Bowyer was better than them, Black was better than them, Kean was miles better than them and I'd imagine a decent percentage of supporters would have been better than them.

I guess if you say it enough times it will become fact.

The fact that the club was in turmoil will be lost, the in-fighting will be forgotten, the undermining of them both by rival factions ignored. As it was, Bowyer took over just as the influences at Ewood departed and it was mad to look as though he had 'steadied the ship' - something he dines out on to this day, so to speak.

Not too sure about Appleton, but I firmly believe that if Berg had been given the same backing and time, and control that Bowyer has enjoyed he would have done the same, maybe better. Berg's misfortune was the timing. Still it made him rich so who cares, right?

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

I guess if you say it enough times it will become fact.

The fact that the club was in turmoil will be lost, the in-fighting will be forgotten, the undermining of them both by rival factions ignored. As it was, Bowyer took over just as the influences at Ewood departed and it was mad to look as though he had 'steadied the ship' - something he dines out on to this day, so to speak.

Not too sure about Appleton, but I firmly believe that if Berg had been given the same backing and time, and control that Bowyer has enjoyed he would have done the same, maybe better. Berg's misfortune was the timing. Still it made him rich so who cares, right?

Its nothing to do with how many times I say it, what makes it fact are the facts. Berg picked up 6 points in 10 league games, Appleton 10 points in 11.

Those facts can be explained differently. It could be said the club was in chaos, with warring factions and they weren't given time.

It could also be said that Berg was hired on a patchy record in a league ranked 25th in Europe. And Appleton on drawing almost every game at Blackpool and relegating Portsmouth. Kean did significantly better in the same "chaos", as did Black and Bowyer in their caretaker spells.

I think Appleton and Berg's managerial contribution is looked on far more generously than it deserves, due to both not being Steve Kean and, on Berg's part, an understandable huge amount of sentimentality. For me they cost us the play-offs that season, as the combined record of the other 3 managers had us very nearly on course for automatic promotion.

Anyway suffice to say, improving on those 2 is hardly a ringing endorsement for Bowyer in my book. He literally couldn't have done any worse.

[Pedro]

Its nothing to do with how many times I say it, what makes it fact are the facts. Berg picked up 6 points in 10 league games, Appleton 10 points in 11.

Those facts can be explained differently. It could be said the club was in chaos, with warring factions and they weren't given time.

It could also be said that Berg was hired on a patchy record in a league ranked 25th in Europe. And Appleton on drawing almost every game at Blackpool and relegating Portsmouth. Kean did significantly better in the same "chaos", as did Black and Bowyer in their caretaker spells.

I think Appleton and Berg's managerial contribution is looked on far more generously than it deserves, due to both not being Steve Kean and, on Berg's part, an understandable huge amount of sentimentality. For me they cost us the play-offs that season, as the combined record of the other 3 managers had us very nearly on course for automatic promotion.

Anyway suffice to say, improving on those 2 is hardly a ringing endorsement for Bowyer in my book. He literally couldn't have done any worse.

I don't think Berg was given a chance and in my opinion, had the toughest job.

Also, and sickeningly - Kean is the only one to get us in a promotion place and but for that rich vein of form after we first got relegated, we would have gone down. Bowyer, credit where it is due, settled things and got us some bang average results - enough to see us over the line.

For me, that's when he did his best work and he should have moved aside for a better, actual manager; unfortunately that isn't the Venky way and we are about to now fall apart at the seams.

[Coatbridge rover]

The longer Mr Bowyer is here the more I like 👍 him.ok he might not be the most attacking manager.and has his favourites imo he has Rovers in his heart.been linked with jobs but never makes a noise.go GB

[Iceman]

The longer Mr Bowyer is here the more I like him.ok he might not be the most attacking manager.and has his favourites imo he has Rovers in his heart.been linked with jobs but never makes a noise.go GB

Deluded...

[Athlete]

The longer Mr Bowyer is here the more I like 👍 him.ok he might not be the most attacking manager.and has his favourites imo he has Rovers in his heart.been linked with jobs but never makes a noise.go GB

Were have you sprung up from.. You obviously haven't seen the dross on display

[Coatbridge rover]

Were have you sprung up from.. You obviously haven't seen the dross on display

[Athlete]

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Incomings , he is the one who puts them forward , outgoings is totally different

Incomings some are given to him, some put forward to GB to put forward, and some put forward by Gazza himself

[Coatbridge rover]

Oh sorry being new to the board does not allow you to have a opinion.There are certain posters on here that should have a long good look at themselves,wannabe journalist wannabe managers.your more anti rovers than the deluded bunch from yarkshire

[martonrover]

The longer Mr Bowyer is here the more I like him.ok he might not be the most attacking manager.and has his favourites imo he has Rovers in his heart.been linked with jobs but never makes a noise.go GB

In all likelihood, the reason Bowyer has been linked with other jobs is due to a proactive agent using media contacts to create the impression he's sought after.

The QPR link was frankly laughable,

However, I agree you are entitled to your opinion.

[Athlete]

Oh sorry being new to the board does not allow you to have a opinion.There are certain posters on here that should have a long good look at themselves,wannabe journalist wannabe managers.your more anti rovers than the deluded bunch from yarkshire

Everyone's entitled to their opinion fella

[ABBEY]

The longer Mr Bowyer is here the more I like 👍 him.ok he might not be the most attacking manager.and has his favourites imo he has Rovers in his heart.been linked with jobs but never makes a noise.go GB

Are you for real ?

[Amo]

The longer Mr Bowyer is here the more I like 👍 him.ok he might not be the most attacking manager.and has his favourites imo he has Rovers in his heart.been linked with jobs but never makes a noise.go GB

Is it common for Rovers fans to troll the Dingle boards?

[Parsonblue]

Are you for real ?

It may come as a surprise Abbey but there are quite a lot of die-hard Rovers supporters who believe that Bowyer has done a decent job considering the environment that he is working in. At the end of the day we all have different views on managers, players, owners, etc. It's part and parcel of following a club.

[Amo]

It may come as a surprise Abbey but there are quite a lot of die-hard Rovers supporters who believe that Bowyer has done a decent job considering the environment that he is working in. At the end of the day we all have different views on managers, players, owners, etc. It's part and parcel of following a club.

11pts off the playoffs and 23pts off automatic promotion with 40+ goals worth of strikers at his disposal is not 'decent', it's an unmitigated failure.

[47er]

Oh sorry being new to the board does not allow you to have a opinion.There are certain posters on here that should have a long good look at themselves,wannabe journalist wannabe managers.your more anti rovers than the deluded bunch from yarkshire

Clearly you are entitled to an opinion as you've just expressed it.

That being the case you cannot reasonably complain if others have one too!

Your opinion above is likely to produce a response and you cannot complain if it does.

Thats the way an MB works.