[Archived] The Gary Bowyer Thread

[roverandout]

Disliking the guy more and more everyone he speaks. I actually hope he continues so people do start to turn on him. Might be a way out of this perpetual limbo of drivel

I never liked the guy from day one, promoted way above his station and yes he is getting more and more like Kean everyday, there really isn't alot of difference

[Rover_Shaun]

I never liked the guy from day one, promoted way above his station and yes he is getting more and more like Kean everyday, there really isn't alot of difference

Rather harsh. Can't say I ever disliked him, let alone before he took the job. Just doubted he'd ever be able to achieve anywhere near what we so desperately need for the club to save itself long term. He's just human.

[windymiller7]

Reading Gaz's comments on that was a bit pathetic as well. At the end of the day all he got ironic cheers of relief as his number went up. Now don't get me wrong I was a bit surprised by it and thought it was out of order, can't stand the jeering of our own players it's a pet hate of mine BUT I fully understand where it came from. Not for me to tell others how to vent their feelings but again Bowyer as manager should take the cop for it because he signed him and he selects him when there are better options.

He came out with "his teams mates will rally around him and everyone at Brockhall will rally round him" or words to that effect. A complete mard arse over reaction again and one that sends out the message that the big bad fans are bullying the player. He'd have been better saying Chris is struggling to come back to fitness and I gave him a start so i'll take the responsibility and he's a big lad he'll take it on the chin.

Totally agree, I even said the same to my daughter who started joining in the 'ironic cheers'. I'd much rather just keep quiet - no applause or anything. I think if everyone did the same, going off in complete silence is just as deafening and damning as everyone cheering.

Anyway, 'he'll bounce back' wtf? That implies he has somewhere to bounce back to? 22 appearances and no goals - eff me, he makes Norman Bell look prolific! I was willing to give him a chance and cut him a bit of slack, I think 22 games is enough of a chance.

As my Dad said "Number 9 for that pudding! Alan Shearer used to wear that shirt FFS"

[roverandout]

Bowyers wishy washy paint over the cracks bullocks.

[Gav]

Bowyers wishy washy paint over the cracks bullocks.

Get used to it, he's going nowhere.

Whilst I think he's a genuine guy trying his best, I'd have him out tomorrow if we had decent people at the club making footballing decisions.

But we have idiots running the club, so Bowyer isn't that bad of an option given the circumstances we find ourselves in.

[JAL]

I think it was Mani ? who mentioned the SS but said it wasn't Shebby.

Should it have read SC ?

[tomphil]

Totally agree, I even said the same to my daughter who started joining in the 'ironic cheers'. I'd much rather just keep quiet - no applause or anything. I think if everyone did the same, going off in complete silence is just as deafening and damning as everyone cheering.

Anyway, 'he'll bounce back' wtf? That implies he has somewhere to bounce back to? 22 appearances and no goals - eff me, he makes Norman Bell look prolific! I was willing to give him a chance and cut him a bit of slack, I think 22 games is enough of a chance.

As my Dad said "Number 9 for that pudding! Alan Shearer used to wear that shirt FFS"

Norman Bell or ding dong as the flat caps in the riverside called him, I remember the grumbles about him Frightening when you think of the people who've worn that shirt since as you say. I hope things turn round for Brown but now there are other options coming in they should be way in front of him. Get him fit and loan him out is probably the best way I reckon.

[ABBEY]

Are the gazzateers happy for him to have a pop at fans like kean did ? Or is it the fans fault like kean said ?

[Stuart]

Get used to it, he's going nowhere.

Whilst I think he's a genuine guy trying his best, I'd have him out tomorrow if we had decent people at the club making footballing decisions.

But we have idiots running the club, so Bowyer isn't that bad of an option given the circumstances we find ourselves in.

Who would be worse?

Is Bowyer any more qualified than Kinder for instance?

[Athlete]

Should it have read SC ?

It was unleaded who mentioned it

[Gav]

Who would be worse?

Appleton, **** and Berg so far under Venkys Stuart.

[Stuart]

Appleton, **** and Berg so far under Venkys Stuart.

Three names that are definitely not going to come back.

Any more?

[RevidgeBlue]

Problem is GAV, you'd expect results and performances to get steadily better under a rookie manager cutting hid teeth for the first time. If he was any good.

Results and performances, both individually and collectively are getting worse imo.

[roverandout]

Appleton had balls, was prepared to shake things up, bowyer wants to lie on his back and have his belly tickled

[bob fleming]

Gav, Henning was hung out to dry. Wasn't allowed to bring his own team in. Too honest for his own good.

Can't think why anyone at Ewood wouldn't allow that can you?

Blah blah blah venkys blah blah blah bowyer blah blah etc moan bitch @#/? moan repeat

Common denominator is?

And he tries ever so hard you know - despite not being a fan.

[Gav]

Three names that are definitely not going to come back.

Any more?

The point being that Venkys are more than capable of appointing managers worse than Bowyer, they've got 'form'.

I think he's out of his depth, but not as much as the owners.

Problem is GAV, you'd expect results and performances to get steadily better under a rookie manager cutting hid teeth for the first time. If he was any good.

Results and performances, both individually and collectively are getting worse imo.

Couldn't agree more Rev, I want him replaced, but Shaw and Venkys couldn't pick a winner in a 1 horse race, so i console myself with the hope that Bowyer is trying his best and as fans we can't ask for anymore than that.

Gav, Henning was hung out to dry. Wasn't allowed to bring his own team in. Too honest for his own good.

Can't think why anyone at Ewood wouldn't allow that can you?

Blah blah blah venkys blah blah blah bowyer blah blah etc moan bitch @#/? moan repeat

Common denominator is?

And he tries ever so hard you know - despite not being a fan.

Look at Henning now, speaks volumes, but he was useless here with the odds well and truly stacked against him.

That said, given a level playing field to appoint a manager of Bergs ability is probably beyond us now, how ridiculous is that?

[bob fleming]

Look at Henning now, speaks volumes, but he was useless here with the odds well and truly stacked against him.

That said, given a level playing field to appoint a manager of Bergs ability is probably beyond us now, how ridiculous is that?

Don't agree with that Gav. With the right advice they'd do it.

Would a strong manager want to work with the people who run the club in England? That's the question. And more to the point would the people in England want to work with a strong manager? That really is the big one.

Venkys, could walk away tomorrow, have done nothing etc etc scumbags, but they keep going. I'm no finance expert, shall we ignore that bit about 20+ million going in? , but there are people on this website who claim...

1. Fire sale. Sell all the best players. Yet Rhodes is still here - and I don't believe anyone will meet their asking price. So it's not the money....

2. We just get young players in. That's how they'll make money. Yet promotion will make more money in one season EVER. So that's not it either....

3. That they could pull out tomorrow. Maybe. But that would mean the Bank of India taking a massive loss. Or maybe they're in on at as well as someone close to me suggested midweek. Again, I can't see that happening either...

They're loaded. Yet they listen to wrong uns. The problem is closer to home. Bowyer is too easy. Have a think. Who gets away easy in all this?

With the right people in situ, the right advice, we'd do very well I believe. They just have to start listening to the right people. That's the trick.

Edit: I missed a bit. And God knows how that'll ever happen. Although I've heard people are still trying.

[Feniscowles Blue]

Don't agree with that Gav. With the right advice they'd do it.

Would a strong manager want to work with the people who run the club in England? That's the question. And more to the point would the people in England want to work with a strong manager? That really is the big one.

Venkys, could walk away tomorrow, have done nothing etc etc scumbags, but they keep going. I'm no finance expert, shall we ignore that bit about 20+ million going in? , but there are people on this website who claim...

1. Fire sale. Sell all the best players. Yet Rhodes is still here - and I don't believe anyone will meet their asking price. So it's not the money....

2. We just get young players in. That's how they'll make money. Yet promotion will make more money in one season EVER. So that's not it either....

3. That they could pull out tomorrow. Maybe. But that would mean the Bank of India taking a massive loss. Or maybe they're in on at as well as someone close to me suggested midweek. Again, I can't see that happening either...

They're loaded. Yet they listen to wrong uns. The problem is closer to home. Bowyer is too easy. Have a think. Who gets away easy in all this?

With the right people in situ, the right advice, we'd do very well I believe. They just have to start listening to the right people. That's the trick.

Edit: I missed a bit. And God knows how that'll ever happen. Although I've heard people are still trying.

shaw must go to get the dry rot out of the building to start with. I'd replace him with Jonathan Jackson CEO at Wigan. Good administrator obvious experience in promotion staying up etc. Nice bloke too.

[bob fleming]

shaw must go to get the dry rot out of the building to start with. I'd replace him with Jonathan Jackson CEO at Wigan. Good administrator obvious experience in promotion staying up etc. Nice bloke too.

In all fairness, to no one, in particular, they did get relegated. But that's not the point really. We just need good guys to run the shop.

[Stuart]

The point being that Venkys are more than capable of appointing managers worse than Bowyer, they've got 'form'.

Sorry Gav. I thought Bowyer was the first manager that "Venkys" had actually appointed. Think about it.

[JBiz]

Sorry Gav. I thought Bowyer was the first manager that "Venkys" had actually appointed. Think about it.

Who said that? GB is just another example of how these owners like to roll. They'd sooner spend their money on cheap easy options than finding proven expensive quality. If they didn't need to take advice for every single thing maybe they would see that the most successful clubs have the most successful managers...

The irony is that they'd have saved 80m+ if they kept the proven quality around.

Like Berg, Appleton and Kean, GB was a novice at this level but the difference was he could actually inconsistently deliver decent performances and results. Hence why a large bulk of the fan base bought into what the intention was from the off. It's not hard to see that another real dud after Appleton would've put us firmly in the third tier.

It's tough to argue that he's improved us in the past season or so but it's a lot tougher to argue that GB would be replaced by someone guaranteed to improve us.

As I've said many times, things can change quickly. If we carry on losing, (2 so far) we will see exactly how much better out structure is now than last time, because if GB remains in situ after losing the players, it will show what the definitive problem has been since day one. A structure that simply does not work.

If they pull the trigger after 4/5 league losses in a row and replace GB with someone of the Big Sam ilk? I'll show my ass on Livesey Branch road.

[Amo]

With the right people in situ, the right advice, we'd do very well I believe. They just have to start listening to the right people. That's the trick.

Yeah, that'll happen. Jon Williams, Tom Finn, Paul Hunt, the two Ians, the Fans Forum, all of them tried to advise the owners on how to put the club back on the straight and narrow, and all of them were routinely ignored. Venky's are only interested in hiring a long line of 'yes-men' who will toe the line and tell them what they want to hear.

[Colt Seavers]

I never post speculation on here, but I was talking this morning to someone linked to the club (I will add no more detail on that) who told me that there is real concern and that Bowyer basically has until October to prove his worthiness.

We shall see...

[Pedro]

I never post speculation on here, but I was talking this morning to someone linked to the club (I will add no more detail on that) who told me that there is real concern and that Bowyer basically has until October to prove his worthiness.

We shall see...

It should have been October 2014. That's what I gave him until and i haven't had the time for him since.

[A cup of beans]

I never post speculation on here, but I was talking this morning to someone linked to the club (I will add no more detail on that) who told me that there is real concern and that Bowyer basically has until October to prove his worthiness.

We shall see...

Thanks, Colt.

Good information. That may worry my staff connection at the club.

He's currently very happy working for GB.

I don't blame him. Everyone has to be selfish and put their own livelihoods and security above anything else.

It does illustrate our troubles.

At board and staff level,

A complacent comfort zone means Rovers continue to amble aimlessly.