[Archived] Bowyer

[Darwen Rover 007]

Hugely disappointing result, from the sounds of the second half out negative approach and tactics really cost us... Who would people suggest as a replacement, just out if interest? A realistic replacement??

[Husky]

Hugely disappointing result, from the sounds of the second half out negative approach and tactics really cost us... Who would people suggest as a replacement, just out if interest? A realistic replacement??

Someone from this forum would do.

[Mr. E]

Bowyer: "Terrific result for the lads tonight, we played a team that would blow Brazil out of the water, it was truly an honor to be on the same pitch. I deserve a golden statue for my work to actually get a draw from this game and not lose 9-0, which is how we set up for every game. Fans need to realize we are a non-league team punching above our weight."

Bringing back the good-times.

[Rover_Shaun]

Unlike last season there is fight in this squad.

We just need someone to inspire them and have faith in them

We don't currently have that person.

As we are not 'manager almanacs' we can't really say who would be available. Its like asking ho's going to take over checkout 5 at asda

[G Somerset Rover]

I wouldn't can Bowyer for the simple reason that the chumps in charge of us would just make a shocking appointment. Judan Ali or the like.

He does frustrate me though. I said it the other day, but a Mclaren, or similar would have us in the play-offs. No doubt about it. Bowyer has no tactical nous and is consistently found out against experienced managers.

[LDRover]

As we are not 'manager almanacs' we can't really say who would be available. Its like asking ho's going to take over checkout 5 at asda

There's ho's on checkout 5 at ASDA??

That's enterprising. Are they bar coded?

[CapeTownRover]

man this feels crap

[Amo]

I wouldn't can Bowyer for the simple reason that the chumps in charge of us would just make a shocking appointment. Judan Ali or the like.

He does frustrate me though. I said it the other day, but a Mclaren, or similar would have us in the play-offs. No doubt about it. Bowyer has no tactical nous and is consistently found out against experienced managers.

Yeah, far too risky to remove Bowyer at this stage. More instability followed by a clown shoes appointment. That's the usual Venky's modus operandi.

That said, Bowyer is becoming increasingly frustrating in what is a make-or-break season for the club's imminent future. You have to wonder where we'd be now if he could design a Plan B and learn how to see out matches.

[onlyoneDuff]

If the owners are serious about promotion then they should be ringing up Malky Mackay...question would be if he wanted to move from one insane asylum to another....but he would get us up

[JBiz]

Yeah, far too risky to remove Bowyer at this stage. More instability followed by a clown shoes appointment. That's the usual Venky's modus operandi.

That said, Bowyer is becoming increasingly frustrating in what is a make-or-break season for the club's imminent future. You have to wonder where we'd be now if he could design a Plan B and learn how to see out matches.

Hopefully experience will improve him but for a rookie he has done exceptionally considering the circumstances.

Essentially though that is what we have to hope for with a lot of our players. Hope experience and development improves the team. I still don't buy the idea of "make or break" season because regardless of FFP, the spunking of a fortune had to stop.

Not a bad foundation to build on when we are all @#/? off we haven't broke playoffs. Considering last season and the general wasting of millions - we've actually become fans again - to be frustrated by draws and not wins, rather than a new mistake/manager/agent advisor/rumour every @#/? week.

On the other hand, if you cannot see past the end of your nose shout Bowyer-out and post shallow opinion on BRFC- Infact, scratch that. Just start singing Colin Hendrys (or any other coach printed from withins') Blue and White army.

[Bucksrover]

Definitely need to stick with bowyer.

We are a tactical penny drop away from doing really well. That and evans coming back into centre mid.

It is just so frustrating how he doesn't quite dare to go for the win in games and continues to love the lowillow partnership.

[Ossydave]

Yes Bowyer isn't the most experienced manager in the league, yes he will make mistakes. The frustrating, in fact no - INFURIATING thing though is that he is seemingly not learning from his mistakes at all!

I like Bowyer, the players seemingly like Bowyer, he has done many good things and I certainly don't want him to leave.

I simply don't understand why he is failing to see what clearly works and what clearly doesn't though.

I thought one of his biggest challenges might have been in the transfer market but he's signed a couple of belters in Cairney and Gestede.

I'd like to sit him in a small room and beat some answers out of him though at present because once again another chance has gone begging.

[Mike E]

I'm starting to wonder if that injury to Williamson could be a blessing tbh. Finally he'll have to go for broke in some games.

[Parsonblue]

I'm starting to wonder if that injury to Williamson could be a blessing tbh. Finally he'll have to go for broke in some games.

Williamson was our best player in the second half and held the midfield together. Once he went off we struggled to win a tackle!

[arbitro]

Interesting stat there - no offsides !

Being at the game I can recall three instantly.

[SoldierMo]

I would also like to apologise for my bowyer comments tonight i respect him for what hes done...he has brought my love back for the team...numpty keane days seems far away in memory...i just got too frustrated with the result and 2nd half performance and really do want him to stick around and carry on building the team as he seems to have the right idea...roll on the donkey lashers

[martonrover]

Not his fault but with he's hardly the most inspiring man to listen to, so is it any wonder his half time talks don't motivate players?

[yoda's brother]

If the owners are serious about promotion then they should be ringing up Malky Mackay...question would be if he wanted to move from one insane asylum to another....but he would get us up

you know that for sure then do you.

[Waggy76]

This is a poor poor league , Bowyer has taken the team as far as his talents can ...

Personally , in November I thought the play offs were impossible but there is absolutely nothing to be afraid of in this league ...

A manager like Mackay , Davies , McCarthy would have garnered us at least another 9 points minimum...

We are losing points because of the manager at present ...

[rovers11]

People are saying Bowyer has cost us a lot of points this season with his tactics. Well, think about how many points we've WON this season because of Bowyer and how many points worse off we'd be if he wasn't here.

People say an experienced manager would have got us loads more points. Really? Mcarthy's Ipswich team are very inconsistent, Adkins' Reading team are inconsistent, McDermott's Leeds team are in a shocking run and so forth.

We are not far off being a very strong team in this league. We are tough to beat - have only lost once in the league this year, have been in winning positions but weren't quite able to hang on or add to the lead and have the third best home defence. If we were losing games easily or not looking like winning then I'd be worried but we are very nearly there. This is exactly what teams like Leicester and Derby were like last season but look at them now.

In saying that, I'm going for a shock Blackpool win at the weekend. They are due one.

[JBiz]

This is a poor poor league , Bowyer has taken the team as far as his talents can ...

Personally , in November I thought the play offs were impossible but there is absolutely nothing to be afraid of in this league ...

A manager like Mackay , Davies , McCarthy would have garnered us at least another 9 points minimum...

We are losing points because of the manager at present ...

Nothing to do with the overhaul of the squad? Or injuries/referees of other teams?

All purely to do with GB?

Also keep going on about other managers, which board/chairman/owners do you think we have? Proven successes in the search for a man at the helm?

I'm sick and tired of it to be honest- use some facking scope, GB has us on the fringes of teams who haven't been raped from the inside for 36 months prior to the season.

There are legitimate reasons for being frustrated, but calling for a new man at this stage without taking precedent into account is like "waggling" your willy out the window with the intent of getting head.

[Kamy100]

This is a poor poor league , Bowyer has taken the team as far as his talents can ...

Personally , in November I thought the play offs were impossible but there is absolutely nothing to be afraid of in this league ...

A manager like Mackay , Davies , McCarthy would have garnered us at least another 9 points minimum...

We are losing points because of the manager at present ...

Manager's like Mackay and Davies wouldn't come anywhere near Rovers at present. Venky's reputation is dirt within the game. Rovers are not an attractive proposition for any decent manager, especially when they will be told that there is little or no money to spend and they will need to slash the wages budget.

So what we will end up with is a desperado manager such as Owen Coyle.

Gary Bowyer will be the first to admit that he has made mistakes and sometimes he is selection/tactics are baffling, but in the current circumstances I personally believe that he is doing a great job. He has managed to get the over paid, uninterested players out of the squad and has started to rebuild the team. Points wise we may not be to far ahead of where we were at this stage of last season but as a team we are looking way better than last season.

After three years of continuous upheaval, we need a little bit of stability and patience. The time to judge Bowyer is in 12 months time not now.

[McClarky]

I just wish he would stop complaining about penalty decisions every single game. Haven't seen last night's but even if we have had some dubious calls against us that isn't the only reason we've not been winning games, The manager should be looking at his own and his team's performances and stop worrying about the referee. This is 1 of the most annoying things about football and brings back horrible memories of the bald headed balloon in the way he seems to not be able to accept any responsibility for poor performances and results.

[Waggy76]

Manager's like Mackay and Davies wouldn't come anywhere near Rovers at present. Venky's reputation is dirt within the game. Rovers are not an attractive proposition for any decent manager, especially when they will be told that there is little or no money to spend and they will need to slash the wages budget.

So what we will end up with is a desperado manager such as Owen Coyle.

Gary Bowyer will be the first to admit that he has made mistakes and sometimes he is selection/tactics are baffling, but in the current circumstances I personally believe that he is doing a great job. He has managed to get the over paid, uninterested players out of the squad and has started to rebuild the team. Points wise we may not be to far ahead of where we were at this stage of last season but as a team we are looking way better than last season.

After three years of continuous upheaval, we need a little bit of stability and patience. The time to judge Bowyer is in 12 months time not now.

I agree with a lot of your post , Kamy ...

But isn't this a Boom or Bust scenario ?

The play offs are possible even now because of the paucity of talent in the whole division ....

[Kamy100]

TBH no one knows if it is a boom or bust scenario simply because we don’t know what the owners will do in May regarding the future. But looking at the figures the yes it doesn’t look to clever.

We will need somewhere between 70-74 points to get into 6^th spot, so that means we need somewhere between 31-35 points out of the remaining 54, that is a very tough ask regardless of who the manager is.