[Archived] Bowyer

[Tom]

That's the point it's not like under Allardyce when people moaned but we were still winning

I didn't see the line up till mid game today but from past games with those two starting in the middle folk have reason to doubt it.

I can't see it changing until Evans is fully fit and even then even not for a while but if we are still picking up results like today then folk won't moan

[DE.]

but if we are still picking up results like today then folk won't moan

Considering Al is calling for Bowyer to be sacked despite the win I wouldn't be so sure of that

[chaddyrovers]

'looked like we are NOT MISSING Scott Dann aren't we???'

Well that makes perfect sense Wordsworth!

Dann was decent for us long may we continue to not need him!

You happy Tom now???

its proves that Bowyer has got the defensively side of Rovers spot on and IMO we are better defensively. 3 clean sheets in a row is excellent.

today clean sheet was against a team with the third top highest scorers at home in the league.

Rovers form in the last 18 games we've picked up 30 points. winning 8, drawing 6 and losing 4.

[den]

If we win then yes, it is the right selection. It doesn't matter if a different team or formation could have potentially won the game as well, if the selection Bowyer picks wins the game then he made the right choice. It's quite simple logic.

It would automatically follow that every game we've lost, is because Bowyer picked the wrong team then DE?

[DE.]

It would automatically follow that every game we've lost, is because Bowyer picked the wrong team then DE?

Generally speaking, yes. There will be some games where it would be very difficult to pick the right team/formation to win as the opposing team could be a lot better than us. The same could hold true for games we've won - perhaps we could have picked numerous teams that would have picked up the points. Fact is if we have won then the right team/style was selected, and if we've lost then the wrong team/style was selected.

[Tom]

You happy Tom now???

its proves that Bowyer has got the defensively side of Rovers spot on and IMO we are better defensively. 3 clean sheets in a row is excellent.

today clean sheet was against a team with the third top highest scorers at home in the league.

Rovers form in the last 18 games we've picked up 30 points. winning 8, drawing 4 and losing 4.

Of course I'm happy the absolute best thing for the club is Gary going from strength the strength and learning as he goes taking us back up eventually

My main worry with him has been tactically and it looks like that can't be questioned today. I think this season will be too soon but next season as long as the owners continue to pay the bills we may have a real chance of the playoffs and from there in it's anyone's game

[West Yorks Rover]

You happy Tom now???

its proves that Bowyer has got the defensively side of Rovers spot on and IMO we are better defensively. 3 clean sheets in a row is excellent.

today clean sheet was against a team with the third top highest scorers at home in the league.

Rovers form in the last 18 games we've picked up 30 points. winning 8, drawing 4 and losing 4.

I think you need to check your maths Chaddy !

[JAL]

its proves that Bowyer has got the defensively side of Rovers spot on and IMO we are better defensively. 3 clean sheets in a row is excellent.

today clean sheet was against a team with the third top highest scorers at home in the league.

Id say Rovers got lucky because Reading according to BBC stats had a massive 17 attempts at goal, yet, only had one of them on target. Clean sheet today, but keep playing like that means it aint going to stay clean for too long.

Though it is easy to see just how good Paul Robinson is compared to the other two lower league goalies that Rovers have played this season.

[Al]

Generally speaking, yes. There will be some games where it would be very difficult to pick the right team/formation to win as the opposing team could be a lot better than us. The same could hold true for games we've won - perhaps we could have picked numerous teams that would have picked up the points. Fact is if we have won then the right team/style was selected, and if we've lost then the wrong team/style was selected.

Complete Gobbledigoop.

[DE.]

Complete Gobbledigoop.

If anything this validates my opinion further, so thanks.

[thenodrog]

Id say Rovers got lucky because Reading according to BBC stats had a massive 17 attempt at goal yet only had one of them on target. Clean sheet today but keep playing like that it aint going to stay clean for too long.

Defending too deep again. We rode our luck but we were due some. I believe Rhodes put a lot of effort in today to his credit but I simply don't understand why Bowyer prefers to take Gestede off in these situations when we are under pressure because a bloke who is strong, fast and can hold the ball up is the requirement over one who cant do any of those things very well.

[Al]

If anything this validates my opinion further, so thanks.

What a nonsense post. Do you actually attend games?

[thenodrog]

Complete Gobbledigoop.

Crikey..... Al's turned into jimmk2.

[JAL]

Defending too deep again. We rode our luck but we were due some. I believe Rhodes put a lot of effort in today to his credit but I simply don't understand why Bowyer prefers to take Gestede off in these situations when we are under pressure because a bloke who is strong, fast and can hold the ball up is the requirement over one who cant do any of those things very well.

Agree Thenodrog though it should be interesting to read a few of the supporters reports on the game to see what they made of it.

You defend from the front and thats not what Jordan is particularly good at either though hes got a great attitude which I could understand any new manager would want to support this kind of player by playing him regularly .

[DE.]

What a nonsense post. Do you actually attend games?

Have attended a fair few recently, yes. Wasn't able to go today, but then I'm not deriding the manager and team for beating a top 6 club at their own ground

[ABBEY]

You happy Tom now???

its proves that Bowyer has got the defensively side of Rovers spot on and IMO we are better defensively. 3 clean sheets in a row is excellent.

today clean sheet was against a team with the third top highest scorers at home in the league.

Rovers form in the last 18 games we've picked up 30 points. winning 8, drawing 4 and losing 4.

? Do explain how you got to 30 points ?

[Stuart]

A very good result but remember, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

My concern is that Bowyer's starting midfield is that broken clock.

[JBiz]

A very good result but remember, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

My concern is that Bowyer's starting midfield is that broken clock.

Broken clock? Your a bit of a broken record!

I must be missing this fit midfielder we constantly leave out? Or this flying winger with consistent delivery from the flanks?

[chaddyrovers]

Of course I'm happy the absolute best thing for the club is Gary going from strength the strength and learning as he goes taking us back up eventually

My main worry with him has been tactically and it looks like that can't be questioned today. I think this season will be too soon but next season as long as the owners continue to pay the bills we may have a real chance of the playoffs and from there in it's anyone's game

I do think Bowyer is growing as a manager but has made mistakes this season. But he has learnt from them and will become better manager game by game.

I think our playoffs hope will come down to the last home game against Wigan IMO. I do really hope if we don't go up that the owners stand by Gary Bowyer as manager for next season and let him continue the good work he has done this season.

I think you need to check your maths Chaddy !

I typed the wrong number of draws in there. so apologises there guys

In the last 18 games, Rovers have won 8, draw 6 and lost 4. 30 points

Id say Rovers got lucky because Reading according to BBC stats had a massive 17 attempts at goal, yet, only had one of them on target. Clean sheet today, but keep playing like that means it aint going to stay clean for too long.

Though it is easy to see just how good Paul Robinson is compared to the other two lower league goalies that Rovers have played this season.

where was the 17 shots from???

really don't know how Rovers got Lucky today. not Rovers fault that Reading shots were awful. I don't think many shots from within 25 yards from what the BBC Radio Lancs commentators said during the game.

since Paul Robinson came back into the team, we haven't lost a game.

Jal, Today was an excellent win against a Reading team who are in 6th place. so what's with all the negative comments all the time???

[Stuart]

Broken clock? Your a bit of a broken record!

I must be missing this fit midfielder we constantly leave out? Or this flying winger with consistent delivery from the flanks?

Bowyer doesn't play to the strengths of his players. Instead, he has a preferred (negative) system and promotes the plodders ahead of the quality. As a consequence, results are hit and miss. Today was a hit, let's see what the next few games bring.

Just picture what Bowyer's perfect season finalé looks like though: playing for penalties at Wembley... from minute 1.

Watching Bowyer's Rovers is agony.

*and it's 'you're'.

I do think Bowyer is growing as a manager but has made mistakes this season. But he has learnt from them and will become better manager game by game.

If he's learning, why does he persist with Lowe and Williamson as his favoured CM pairing?

[Roverthechimp]

Negative system?

2 strikers and 2 wide attacking midfielders away from home is negative?

[Stuart]

1 wide midfielder and one CM playing out of position. Haven't you been paying attention?

[Roverthechimp]

So a system is no longer a system if the players in it have the wrong label on them?

Is a clock still a clock if it doesn't tell the time?

[chaddyrovers]

Bowyer doesn't play to the strengths of his players. Instead, he has a preferred (negative) system and promotes the plodders ahead of the quality. As a consequence, results are hit and miss. Today was a hit, let's see what the next few games bring.

Just picture what Bowyer's perfect season finalé looks like though: playing for penalties at Wembley... from minute 1.

Watching Bowyer's Rovers is agony.

*and it's 'you're'.

If he's learning, why does he persist with Lowe and Williamson as his favoured CM pairing?

negative system??? 2 strikers and 2 attacking wide players in Conway and Cairney today

Lowe and Williamson got forward today but both did they job defensively,

for the Rovers goal, BOTH Lowe and Williamson was up there supporting Conway and looking for the pass from Conway to score but instead Conway shot and Rovers scored and we WON!!!

In the 2 previous games before today against Blackpool at Home and Boro away Rovers played 4-3-1-2 with Both Gestede and Rhodes with Dunn in the number 10 role supporting them. HOW IS THAT NEGATIVE THEN Stuart then???

[Stuart]

So a system is no longer a system if the players in it have the wrong label on them?

Is a clock still a clock if it doesn't tell the time?

Eh?

negative system??? 2 strikers and 2 attacking wide players in Conway and Cairney today

Lowe and Williamson got forward today but both did they job defensively,

for the Rovers goal, BOTH Lowe and Williamson was up there supporting Conway and looking for the pass from Conway to score but instead Conway shot and Rovers scored and we WON!!!

In the 2 previous games before today against Blackpool at Home and Boro away Rovers played 4-3-1-2 with Both Gestede and Rhodes with Dunn in the number 10 role supporting them. HOW IS THAT NEGATIVE THEN Stuart then???

There is no point in arguing with you, Chaddy. It's like debating with a primary school child.