[Archived] Blackpool vs. Blackburn Rovers- Saturday 26/10/13 3pm.

[RevidgeBlue]

We haven't had a clean sheet away from home in the league since Eric Black was in charge

Lowe is one of the main reasons for that. He is the primary defensive midfielder, the lynchpin of the side and isn't good enough.

Barely ever presses the ball or closes the opposition down especially when the ball is running loose on the edge of our own area.

[m1st]

Maybe the time has come for GB to stamp his mark on the team and drop the hapless over rated Scott Dann for the next game especially after hes cost us a goal against Charlton and now Blackpool plus others.

Given that Hanley's still got the third match of his ban to serve, who would you pick to replace Dann next Saturday, JAL? We're a bit thin on the ground at the moment, what with injuries and suspensions.

I actually agree with you about Rhodes. Absolute quality goalscorer but literally offers nothing else. Bit like a Darren bent type player. Does nothing but will score you a goal. Whenever the ball gets played up to Rhodes he loses and we are on the back foot. If we got £10m-£12m I would be very tempted to sell. Buy someone like becchio for £3m and lot less wages; a player that can score 20+ goals in this league and offers much more in terms of all round play. I'm not convinced a prem team will pay £10m+ for Rhodes.

I'm sure others of my generation will remember listening to Al Read on the wireless in the 50s. One of his comedy routines was of a football fan slagging off a forward who did "nothing but score". I think of him every time I watch Rhodes.

[Al]

From what I've seen recently Kean is having a crisis of confidence in his ability and his team mates are having a crisis of confidence in him! He badly needs to be taken off the front line until his confidence can be repaired. Problem is we dont appear to have a valid option.

Blackpools goal was soft and low.

btw Re: your last point rumours abounded that Shearer and Sutton weren't exactly best of pals.

According to rumour Shearer preferred his big mate Mike Newell as a partner and resented Sutton being brought in.

[Al]

Lowe is one of the main reasons for that. He is the primary defensive midfielder, the lynchpin of the side and isn't good enough.

Barely ever presses the ball or closes the opposition down especially when the ball is running loose on the edge of our own area.

Change the record Rev. That one is worn out.

[watford-rover]

how did judge get on?

[RevidgeBlue]

Change the record Rev. That one is worn out.

I will when we start winning games on a consistent basis. At the moment Lowe is one of the main reasons why we are not imo.

What are you meant to do, concede that we're not winning enough games but say it doesn't matter because Jase is a good old bloke whod tries his hardest?

how did judge get on?

I was wondering that as well. They seemed to speak quite favourably about him on the radio before half time, less so after.

[jim mk2]

Lowe is one of the main reasons for that. He is the primary defensive midfielder, the lynchpin of the side and isn't good enough.

Barely ever presses the ball or closes the opposition down especially when the ball is running loose on the edge of our own area.

Nothing to do with poor defending then ? Or perhaps Pedersen is still to blame. You need to see a psychiatrist.

[Al]

I will when we start winning games on a consistent basis. At the moment Lowe is one of the main reasons why we are not imo.

What are you meant to do, concede that we're not winning enough games but say it doesn't matter because Jase is a good old bloke whod tries his hardest?

We all know your opinion of him and are fed up of hearing it. Pederson has gone and if you undermine Lowe who will be the next to attract your poison?

[RevidgeBlue]

Nothing to do with poor defending then ? Or perhaps Pedersen is still to blame. You need to see a psychiatrist.

On the defending point obviously so. Lowe is our defensive midfielder is he not?

Given I've had so much grief over Pedersen how is he getting on over in Turkey? Is he doing well or has he been sussed out rather quicker than we managed?

[lraC]

On the defending point obviously so. Lowe is our defensive midfielder is he not?

Given I've had so much grief over Pedersen how is he getting on over in Turkey? Is he doing well or has he been sussed out rather quicker than we managed?

He is doing a whole lot better than Myles Anderson in Italy

[RevidgeBlue]

We all know your opinion of him and are fed up of hearing it. Pederson has gone and if you undermine Lowe who will be the next to attract your poison?

"Poison" good grief.

Why is expressing the view that Lowe isn't good enough poisonous? I've never once questioned his work rate or commitment.

If I were to say, on the basis of what I've seen so far I don't think Marrow or Marshall are good enough either is that being poisonous as well?

[glen9mullan]

Blackpool created very little , got a cheap penalty and was gifted a goal by yet another Kean lack of concentration .

Seen a couple of post regarding Dann being dropped , which I can't quite understand .

Dann is one of only a couple of players in the team who is composed on the ball and can pick a pass out .

Keans kicking is awful , very rarely finds a rovers shirt and is the weakest link .

Kilgannon ain't good enough , the last 15 minutes he was dead on his feet and was found wanting .

Tommy Spurr is a cracking full back but is being asked to do too much behind King , King can't tackle and when he does track back he tends to assist the opposition.

Never been the biggest fan of Lowe , but last couple of games he has shown his importance to the team , he covers every blade of grass trying covering for players who sulk when it's not going their way .

Cairney is very gifted and is so composed on the ball , however when he gets the ball , the options available to him are poor , players don't move the opposition around off the ball , which makes us very predictable .

Was chatting last night with a mate who suggested that had rovers dropped king and Rhodes and Gond with Best n Campbell then we would of probably won the match . The opposition know who the danger men are , Blackpool took away our width and made it impossible for king to stretch his legs on a very narrow pitch , whilst Rhodes was marked by two players with the defensive midfielder making it a triangle around him .

Had rovers gone with the other two then all Blackpools weekly work of highlighting Rhodes and King would of been out the window . Bowyer needs to mix it up , as our lineup and tactics are far too predictable and easy to harness from the opposition.

At present teams who play us only need to watch the videos from previous games and they have our measure , this has to change if we harbour any hopes of a solid season

[chaddyrovers]

I thought Rovers deserve at least a point if not all 3 points. we had more possession of the ball(57%) than Blackpool did. we created more chances and had more shots than them.

IMO, Cairney was our best player in the game and should have scored at least 1 goal. his passing and skill is something we need permanent. so hope we can sign him up soon.

thought Judge did well in number 10 role and link up well with Cairney down the right. hope we see him in that role on Saturday against Boro.

Kean couldn't see the Gosling shot cant his view was blocked by 3 players but Lowe should have close the ball quickly but thought Lowe did well in the game and is improving.

Campbell deserve to be send off but Blackpool should have had Broadfoot send off aswell for pushing Campbell in the face. the pictures I posted earlier you can clearly see this. Best shouldn't have come on the pitch at all but I couldn't see him on the bench afterwards either.

Also the fans were fantastic and sung their hearts out. the players played with loads of passion, pride and commitment. and also great to see all the players come over at the end of the game clapped the fans

Maybe the time has come for GB to stamp his mark on the team and drop the hapless over rated Scott Dann for the next game especially after hes cost us a goal against Charlton and now Blackpool plus others.

I wouldn't change the centre back pairing for the Boro game but maybe for next game with Hanley and Kilgallon as the centre back

According to someone who won't be named Sparky Marky, Best and Dann are our strongest players in their respective positions. The mind boggles.

IMO, Hanley is Rovers best centre back.

and Rhodes is our best striker if we want a prolific striker. all depend on the type of striker you want. Beechio is a type of striker that can score goals and hold the ball like target type of striker that we don't have IMO.

Blackpool created very little , got a cheap penalty and was gifted a goal by yet another Kean lack of concentration .

Keans kicking is awful , very rarely finds a rovers shirt and is the weakest link .

Tommy Spurr is a cracking full back but is being asked to do too much behind King , King can't tackle and when he does track back he tends to assist the opposition.

Never been the biggest fan of Lowe , but last couple of games he has shown his importance to the team , he covers every blade of grass trying covering for players who sulk when it's not going their way .

Cairney is very gifted and is so composed on the ball , however when he gets the ball , the options available to him are poor , players don't move the opposition around off the ball , which makes us very predictable .

Was chatting last night with a mate who suggested that had rovers dropped king and Rhodes and Go with Best n Campbell then we would of probably won the match . The opposition know who the danger men are , Blackpool took away our width and made it impossible for king to stretch his legs on a very narrow pitch , whilst Rhodes was marked by two players with the defensive midfielder making it a triangle around him .

Had rovers gone with the other two then all Blackpools weekly work of highlighting Rhodes and King would of been out the window . Bowyer needs to mix it up , as our lineup and tactics are far too predictable and easy to harness from the opposition.

At present teams who play us only need to watch the videos from previous games and they have our measure , this has to change if we harbour any hopes of a solid season

Glen, that's is some points you have made there.

Maybe Rovers could play King in the number 10 role where he could run at the back four and has bit less defensive duties. that would allow Cairney more room to cut in from the right if that where he is going to play and get into the space left in between the defence and midfield.

I agree that Bowyer does need to change his line up abit starting wise. we are too predictable cos Teams are doubling up on King and not allow him to run with the ball. But I cant see Rhodes ever being drop by Bowyer .

[Al]

"Poison" good grief.

Why is expressing the view that Lowe isn't good enough poisonous? I've never once questioned his work rate or commitment.

If I were to say, on the basis of what I've seen so far I don't think Marrow or Marshall are good enough either is that being poisonous as well?

Yes poisonous. You helped poison Pederson in the eyes of the supporters and are now trying to do the same for Lowe. Your view of Marrow and Marshall are acceptable provided you do not repeat them ad infinitum as you do with Lowe.

[den]

Seen a couple of post regarding Dann being dropped , which I can't quite understand .

Dann is one of only a couple of players in the team who is composed on the ball and can pick a pass out .

I would have said Dann is one of the worst passers of the ball Glen. No finesse whatsoever.

[RevidgeBlue]

Blackpool created very little , got a cheap penalty and was gifted a goal by yet another Kean lack of concentration .

Seen a couple of post regarding Dann being dropped , which I can't quite understand .

Dann is one of only a couple of players in the team who is composed on the ball and can pick a pass out .

Keans kicking is awful , very rarely finds a rovers shirt and is the weakest link .

Kilgannon ain't good enough , the last 15 minutes he was dead on his feet and was found wanting .

Tommy Spurr is a cracking full back but is being asked to do too much behind King , King can't tackle and when he does track back he tends to assist the opposition.

Never been the biggest fan of Lowe , but last couple of games he has shown his importance to the team , he covers every blade of grass trying covering for players who sulk when it's not going their way .

Cairney is very gifted and is so composed on the ball , however when he get the ball , the options available to him are poor , players don't move the opposition around off the ball , which makes us very predictable .

Was chatting last night with a mate who suggested that had rovers dropped king and Rhodes and Gond with Best n Campbell then we would of probably won the match . The opposition know who the danger men are , Blackpool took away our width and made it impossible for king to stretch his legs on a very narrow pitch , whilst Rhodes was marked by two players with the defensive midfielder making it a triangle around him .

Had rovers gone with the other two then all Blackpools weekly work of highlighting Rhodes and King would of been out the window . Bowyer needs to mix it up , as our lineup and tactics are far too predictable and easy to harness from the opposition.

At present teams who play us only need to watch the videos from previous games and they have our measure , this has to change if we harbour any hopes of a solid season

Interesting and thought provoking post but the point you make about Best and DJ is theoretical only imo.

What your mate is saying is replace the two players who overall have been our most potent threats with two guys who have shown nothing whatsoever in a Rovers shirt since they've been at the Club.

An interesting exercise on the Playstation perhaps but one that would be a big gamble for the manager to take and not one with any real time evidence of success behind it to indicate it would be a profitable move.

[Mike E]

On the point of teamd doubling up on players, looking forward to seeing Dunn/Rochina in the hole again. That's 4 oppo players taken out of the game

[92er]

On the defending point obviously so. Lowe is our defensive midfielder is he not?

Given I've had so much grief over Pedersen how is he getting on over in Turkey? Is he doing well or has he been sussed out rather quicker than we managed?

According to Radio Lancs yesterday, someone else was playing defensive midfield, thus allowing the other 3 midfielders to attack.

[AHoyle90]

Only saw the highlights yesterday so can't comment too much

Why not give Cairney a run of games in centre midfield? Rather than have him out wide. I don't mean in the No.10 role.

Totally agree with Glenn that we are becoming too predictable, saw that against Huddersfield and Wigan.

Bowyer has a tough job, but I think he needs to make some tough decisions.

[RevidgeBlue]

Yes poisonous. You helped poison Pederson in the eyes of the supporters and are now trying to do the same for Lowe. Your view of Marrow and Marshall are acceptable provided you do not repeat them ad infinitum as you do with Lowe.

I can't let nonsense like that pass without reply, there is no need to comment repeatedly on the likes of Marrow and Marshall if we 're not winning and they're not in the team. If we're not winning and certain players are fixtures week in week our then surely their roles come under greater scrutiny.

I couldn't disagree more with the incessant Rhodes bashing and think it is completely unfair and incorrect but I wouldn't stoop so low as to brand it "poisonous" because people are giving their honest and genuine opinion on how to improve the team's fortunes.

[thenodrog]

I will when we start winning games on a consistent basis. At the moment Lowe is one of the main reasons why we are not imo.

What are you meant to do, concede that we're not winning enough games but say it doesn't matter because Jase is a good old bloke whod tries his hardest?

I was wondering that as well. They seemed to speak quite favourably about him on the radio before half time, less so after.

Wassup Simon? Experiencing withdrawal pangs since MGP left are you? Should Lowe leave or suffer a long term injury who will be your next hate figure? Who is it that you will be targetting next?

However......

We're not winning cos that stupid scottish bear head has possibly cost us 6 points by my reckoning and with another game to go by getting himself sent off when we were winning at Wigan and on a decent run of form and results. We subsequently lost that game, the goal that we lost to Charlton came from a through ball which split the new CH partnership down the middle where he should have been patrolling and yesterday his stand in gave away a bloody stupid and unecessary penalty. On top of that the keeper is decidedly dodgy and Rhodes scoring has dried up as predicted by many which effectively reduces the team down to 10 men ........ and thats before any numpty gets himself sent off! There are a lot more places to lay blame at before Lowe who btw has had a decent run of form lately by most reports.

[roversfan99]

Only saw the highlights yesterday so can't comment too much

Why not give Cairney a run of games in centre midfield? Rather than have him out wide. I don't mean in the No.10 role.

Totally agree with Glenn that we are becoming too predictable, saw that against Huddersfield and Wigan.

Bowyer has a tough job, but I think he needs to make some tough decisions.

I felt the balance was good in midfield yesterday, Cairney is good on the right, we had 2 players in the engine room in Lowe and Williamson, allowing Kane, Cairney and Judge to link up effectively towards the right. Some of the passing in particular between Judge and Cairney was very good and once in particular, it really created a good opening, with Judge showing good movement and a lovely touch to get a shot away. King was quieter than usual on the left but gives us a totally different dimension down the left.

When Dunn/Rochina are back, then I would either swap him for Judge, or take out one of the sitters and move Cairney back with Judge on the right.

Judge is definitely a better option than Marshall for me.

We really need to improve our set pieces, especially corners. Too many go straight to the keeper, yes we scored from a free kick but we needed a lucky own goal.

[RevidgeBlue]

Wassup Simon? Experiencing withdrawal pangs since MGP left are you? Should Lowe leave or suffer a long term injury who will be your next hate figure? Who is it that you will be targetting next?

However......

We're not winning cos that stupid scottish bear head has possibly cost us 6 points by my reckoning and with another game to go by getting himself sent off when we were winning at Wigan and on a decent run of form and results. We subsequently lost that game, the goal that we lost to Charlton came from a through ball which split the new CH partnership down the middle where he should have been patrolling and yesterday his stand in gave away a bloody stupid and unecessary penalty. On top of that the keeper is decidedly dodgy and Rhodes scoring has dried up as predicted by many which effectively reduces the team down to 10 men ........ and thats before any numpty gets himself sent off! There are a lot more places to lay blame at before Lowe who btw has had a decent run of form lately by most reports.

I think you can blame Hanley for not picking up 3 points at Wigan, thereafter if his replacement or other players don't prove up to the task that's their look out.

The original point I made about Lowe was not merely confined to the last two or three games but in response to the suggestion that we haven't kept a clean sheet away from home since Eric Black left. I don't know if that stat is correct or not but if it is then given the fact it is Lowe's job to do the dirty work it would corroborate my view he doesn't do it anything like effectively enough.

[Salgado Is A Hero]

We really need to improve our set pieces, especially corners. Too many go straight to the keeper, yes we scored from a free kick but we needed a lucky own goal.

Who was taking them? Judge, Cainey, both?

[roversfan99]

Both, mainly Cairney.