Stuart Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Those who object to changes in language or dismiss "Americanisation"; totally failing to understand that language has evolved in this way since the first grunts became coherent. Have a read of the excellent "The Unfolding of Language" by Guy Deutscher, for some eye opening linguistic evolutionary paths. Or even without reading an academic piece, remember at least, you couldn't eat beef before 1066. That may be so but I really hope that 'of' never replaces 'have' in any educational texts!
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jim mk2 Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Those who don't understand where Xmas originates, or that its been around for hundreds of years. Those who don't understand that our Christmas celebrations are an amalgamation of multiple sources, many pagan in origin. Those who don't understand that Father Christmas and Santa Claus were originally very different entities but have merged over time into a single figure. And returning to earlier posts... Those who object to changes in language or dismiss "Americanisation"; totally failing to understand that language has evolved in this way since the first grunts became coherent. Have a read of the excellent "The Unfolding of Language" by Guy Deutscher, for some eye opening linguistic evolutionary paths. Or even without reading an academic piece, remember at least, you couldn't eat beef before 1066. Those who make remarks out of context. Those who don't know what they are talking about. Those who make assumptions about other people and try to be a smart-arse. And fail. .
Beta Ray Bill Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 That may be so but I really hope that 'of' never replaces 'have' in any educational texts! I personally agree, it sounds horrid. But as the book demonstrates, history is littered with similarly vile sounding corruptions to the contempary ear, and yet they stuck. I fink Fursday wil ov appen in hundred year. :-( Those who make remarks out of context. Those who don't know what they are talking about. Those who make assumptions about other people and try to be a smart-arse. And fail. . Lot of self loathing there, jimbo.
Al Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Religion is a rant all on its own Christmas is whatever you want it to be It's not. It's what is forced upon you by the expectations of others.
T.J.Newton Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Those who make remarks out of context. Those who don't know what they are talking about. Those who make assumptions about other people and try to be a smart-arse. And fail. . That takes 'projecting'(in psychology terms) to a new level.
thenodrog Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Those who make remarks out of context. Those who don't know what they are talking about. Those who make assumptions about other people and try to be a smart-arse. And fail. . How do you feel about people who live in glass houses?
Reedy You're A Star Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Christmas is an amalgamation of the Roman festivals of Saturnalia and the celebrations of the Winter Solstice, amongst other things. Noone really knows when Jesus was supposed have been born, so 25th December made as good a date as any to coincide with all the celebrations that were already going on at that time of year. Saturnalia was an ancient Roman festival in honour of the deity Saturn held on December 17 of the Julian calendarand later expanded with festivities through December 23. The holiday was celebrated with a sacrifice at the Temple of Saturn in the Roman Forum and a public banquet, followed by private gift-giving, continual partying, and a carnivalatmosphere that overturned Roman social norms: gambling was permitted, and masters provided table service for theirslaves.[1] The poet Catullus called it "the best of days."[2] Saturnalia is a festival of light leading to the winter solstice, with the abundant presence of candles symbolizing the quest for knowledge and truth.[5] The renewal of light and the coming of the new year was celebrated in the later Roman Empire at the Dies Natalis of Sol Invictus, the "Birthday of the Unconquerable Sun," on December 25.
thenodrog Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Christmas is an amalgamation of the Roman festivals of Saturnalia and the celebrations of the Winter Solstice. ..... Saturnalia was an ancient Roman festival in honour of the deity Saturn held on December 17 of the Julian calendarand later expanded with festivities through December 23. The holiday was celebrated with a sacrifice at the Temple of Saturn in the Roman Forum and a public banquet, Hey! Great idea! ........... Sooner we sacrifice that kean in the red coat and the white beard the better imo. Symptomatic of the christian religion that such a symbol of greed, avarice and over indulgence has come to rank way above the epitomy of humility baby Jesus born in a stable. No doubt some member of the roman catholic church resplendent in fine raimant and dripping with jewel encrusted gold rings carrying an ornately made gilded staff in the shape of a shepherds crook will be along to explain why.
Backroom Tom Posted November 15, 2013 Backroom Posted November 15, 2013 Well I for one love Christmas in all its consumer glory
thenodrog Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Here you are then Tom......... https://www.uk.wonga.mobi/ John 2. 13-22 ............ What goes around comes around eh? Could this be the second coming?http://news.sky.com/story/1164167/ed-miliband-takes-on-the-wonga-economy
Backroom DE. Posted November 15, 2013 Backroom Posted November 15, 2013 Both slightly inferior to IE imo. In what respect? Chrome has a few compatibility issues but more than makes up for that in security and speed, which Microsoft have always failed at. Alternatively you might want to look at the Avant web browser. It combines the engines of all the most popular browsers and allows you to pick which one you want to use for specific pages, etc. So if a page on here wasn't working properly on IE you could switch to Firefox or Chrome's engine, or vice versa.
broadsword Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Wheeled luggage. If you can't carry it then pack less. Having it trail behind you is bloody annoying.
jim mk2 Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 How do you feel about people who live in glass houses? No idea. How do you feel ? Well I for one love Christmas in all its consumer glory I enjoy it too, but for all the right reasons (the Huddersfield historian notwithstanding). Came across another Americanism in the papers today. Apparently the energy bill row has become a "lightning rod" for the cost of living debate. I've seen the expression a few times recently. What happened to plain simple English ?
Amo Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Symptomatic of the christian religion that such a symbol of greed, avarice and over indulgence has come to rank way above the epitomy of humility baby Jesus born in a stable. Except Jesus was never born in a stable. I don't know where that came from but it certainly wasn't the Bible.
Backroom Tom Posted November 15, 2013 Backroom Posted November 15, 2013 No idea. How do you feel ? I enjoy it too, but for all the right reasons (the Huddersfield historian notwithstanding). Came across another Americanism in the papers today. Apparently the energy bill row has become a "lightning rod" for the cost of living debate. I've seen the expression a few times recently. What happened to plain simple English ? My post was flippant but I really do love the time of the year around Christmas just gives me a warm feeling, maybe for the wrong reasons but I don't need to question that too much
T.J.Newton Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 The difference between the main ones is so marginal I couldn't give a toss, Ill crry on using IE as its what i'm most used to and I know its compatible with all my needs(i'm hardly going to change it because its not at the min fully compatible with a football forum!) Also my system is 64bit and last time I looked chrome was only officially available in 32bit.
Backroom DE. Posted November 15, 2013 Backroom Posted November 15, 2013 You're right, so with that in mind... Companies who don't make 64 bit versions of software despite 64 bit systems being available for over 5 years now.
Amo Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Esther Rantzen on shows for Children in Need. I guess the ones old Jimmy was fiddling didn't count?
LDRover Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 People (usually women) who call everyone 'chick'. People (usually women) who put a single kiss at the end of every text message or e-mail. Oh and people (usually women)
Simon Says Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Let me watch a television programme in peace. Once it's finished, let the credits roll. I don't want to instantly see a trailer for another programme, or Huw Edwards telling me what's coming up in the news.
jim mk2 Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Barstewards in the City of London who brought the country to the brink of financial ruin in 2008-9. The same barstewards who were never punished either financially or in the courts for their stupidity and arrogance. . The same barstewards who are now back on the bonus gravy train as if nothing had happened while the rest of the country continues to suffer as a result of their greed. The City of London - could the Luftwaffe come back and finish the job please ? London - the leech on the nation's back sucking in all the best people and resources while the regions and the north in particular languishes. More City bashing later
LDRover Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Blokes who worked locally earning good cash at places like ICI, Crown, ROF, Mullards etc. did very little but plenty of overtime, got handsome redundancy payments and now moan like f### because not only do they not get 25-30k a year or copious OT but they actually have to graft. And the stupid feckers wonder why the places where they used to work aren't there anymore.
jim mk2 Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Economic illiterates who blame workers receiving decent living wages for the demise of badly managed companies or companies forced to close through a lack of government support and industrial policy.
Backroom DE. Posted November 15, 2013 Backroom Posted November 15, 2013 People who claim to be ethical because they are vegetarians, but still eat cheese & eggs and drink milk. Look up how these items are produced and try again.
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