tomphil Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 But that letter wasn't exposed by Sporting Intelligence until January 2012. By that point, most people had sussed out what was going on. Most people on here yes. The wider Rovers public no.
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John Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 Love being an ITK 😄 Whilst still bitter/angry, I've given up caring.
Leonard Venkhater Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 The film JFK was on TV last night. When I read your posts, Len, I have an image of you as Jim Garrison Haha! Glad you didn't say LBJ! I hate Kevin Kostner and I feel more like Joe Pesci... not David Ferrie, I hasten to add!!!
47er Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 Sacking Sam wasn't an indication that they couldn't run our finances 47er, whereas £5m and JW walking were. Sacking Sam and replacing with Kean was another, but different sign that some fans either didn't recognise, or chose to ignore. All the evidence was there very early on, if people took off their blue n white tinted specs and looked. Sorry to disagree with you here Den but once we lost our Premier League status, which I was sure we would, we lost our main source of funding------didn't we? What plan did they have for that?
LDRover Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 Am I missing something here? Surely Sam was sacked before JW walked? Wasn't that conclusive proof that Venkys were not to be trusted in anything? Contrary to their promises as well as to all common sense. After that, I knew we were going down, and have been utterly opposed to the wretches ever since. You were bang on the money from the off 47er, I'll give you that.
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted November 23, 2013 Moderation Lead Posted November 23, 2013 Two very early signs spelled it out K Hod. Firstly, their announcement that we could get into the CL, with just £5m/year. Quite simply that showed that they didn't have any clue whatsoever what they had bought........ And secondly - John Williams resigning. After that first announcement, I remember posting on here that fans should watch closely how John Williams would react. Williams basically walked when he couldn't persuade the owners to set a budget. There was no control over the clubs spending. The signs were very definitely there. It was just a matter of recognising them. I'm talking about when they initially took over. After Allardyce and the board were dismissed, it soon became clear we were up sh1t creek....
47er Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 That's kind of you LD. Tris is probably choking over his beer as we speak so I'll get in first and point out that I did embrace the take-over at first. Clearly the Trust wanted out so "lets get it over with" was my attitude. However once they made that almost immediate decision to sack Sam I knew we'd been landed with a bunch of wrong uns and all my hopes had been for nothing. Plenty will point out that they were against Indian owners from the off and I've got mixed views about that.
Roverall Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 If they are going to dump us into administration, I wish they would just get done with it. They have choked all buzz out of match days.
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 If they are going to dump us into administration, I wish they would just get done with it. They have choked all buzz out of match days. Yeah, I feel like a condemned man, blindfolded, waiting for the firing squad to shoot.
Leonard Venkhater Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 That's kind of you LD. Tris is probably choking over his beer as we speak so I'll get in first and point out that I did embrace the take-over at first. Clearly the Trust wanted out so "lets get it over with" was my attitude. However once they made that almost immediate decision to sack Sam I knew we'd been landed with a bunch of wrong uns and all my hopes had been for nothing. Plenty will point out that they were against Indian owners from the off and I've got mixed views about that. Me too. I even remember saying to my kids that relegation would have been a certainty in the next few years with the Trust's disinvestment! I was angry and a ashamed at San's sacking, but I remember thinking( !) they must have a plan. .I do need to confess that the sight of Balaji and the little one with the tash on the pitch before the Villa game did not feel right. Like Father Ted, I am not a racist, but I did wonder how these people could get what Rovers meant to people like me...the exact opposite to when Jack took over.Seriously, I never imagined anything this though....
Leonard Venkhater Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 Yeah, I feel like a condemned man, blindfolded, waiting for the firing squad to shoot. Too right. Less the Mexican bandit against a wall, more the wounded Connolly, tied to his chair???
Roverall Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 Too right. Less the Mexican bandit against a wall, more the wounded Connolly, tied to his chair??? As an Irishman I can appreciate that one.
Leonard Venkhater Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 As an Irishman I can appreciate that one. You will probably know that one of those with him went to school locally
den Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Sorry to disagree with you here Den but once we lost our Premier League status, which I was sure we would, we lost our main source of funding------didn't we? What plan did they have for that? I purposely didn't mention Sam 47er. Once he was brought into the discussion, the point would have been lost. Apart from which, sacking him points to footballing misjudgement, rather than evidence of their financial incompetence. They obviously believed they could replace him easily.
yoda Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 I purposely didn't mention Sam 47er. Once he was brought into the discussion, the point would have been lost. Apart from which, sacking him points to footballing misjudgement, rather than evidence of their financial incompetence. They obviously believed they could replace him easily. They were told they could replace him easily, by wrong uns about to get their hands in the till
thenodrog Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 I do need to confess that the sight of Balaji and the little one with the tash on the pitch before the Villa game did not feel right. Like Father Ted, I am not a racist, but I did wonder how these people could get what Rovers meant to people like me...the exact opposite to when Jack took over.Seriously, I never imagined anything this though.... "did not 'feel' right?" You need to borrow my 'spidey senses' Leonard! I had the feckers taped from the off.
Leonard Venkhater Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 "did not 'feel' right?" You need to borrow my 'spidey senses' Leonard! I had the feckers taped from the off. thenodrog= thenostrodamus!!!!
Amo Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 thenodrog= thenostrodamus!!!! Except when it came to that Mark Hughes. I guess old Michel even got a few wrong now and again.
yoda Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 thenodrog= thenostrodamus!!!! A bit unfair that, I know how he felt at the time of the take over, same as me, we got criticised heavily at the time
Leonard Venkhater Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 A bit unfair that, I know how he felt at the time of the take over, same as me, we got criticised heavily at the time I know and I was only teasing him!. I believe he did make his mind up early and he was clearly right..... I just couldn't resist the name wordplay
Stuart Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 I know and I was only teasing him!. I believe he did make his mind up early and he was clearly right..... I just couldn't resist the name wordplay Tenuous!
JAL Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 A bit unfair that, I know how he felt at the time of the take over, same as me, we got criticised heavily at the time Who and where are these critics nowadays Yoda just hope they've not lost their seats or even worse given them up.
Leonard Venkhater Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Tenuous! I talk to him and I believe him
yoda Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Who and where are these critics nowadays Yoda just hope they've not lost their seats or even worse given them up. A few have legged it, others are in denial I talk to him and I believe him The gospel according to St Leonard
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