[Archived] Ipswich Town vs. BRFC (Off. match preview)

[RibbleValleyRover]

Inconsistent performances and results, characteristics of a mid-table side.

How far off is Robbo being fit? I suspect he must be close to full fitness now but are the club holding him back because they want to get rid? Wouldn't be the first time players have been frozen out at this club. If he's fit he should be starting over Kean who was showing signs of decline in performance towards the end of last season and that has carried on into this one.

Not sure what this two defensive midfielders especially away from home is doing for Rovers. I know they play that formation and select that personnel because in theory it should make you more solid and hard to beat. On the evidence to date it's clearly not working.

At the end of the day you have to expect more performances and results like this for the rest of the season. You will get wins one week, draws or losses the next. Bowyer needs to be careful, most fans expect mid-table this season but they aren't the ones making the decision on whether to keep him in the job. The possibility of him being in danger come January is quite real.

[Leonard Venkhater]

TBF away from home we are as soft as sh1te and concede goals from nowhere. We can blame individuals each occasion but when will someone in authority at the Club finally admit that this is far from good enough with the amount of money these players are earning and with what the payroll costs are running at.

I am sick of hearing bull sh1t from players and manager like we are up and running, we can make play offs, we are on the right lines etc etc. Its feckin bullocks and its high time somebody in that club stood and said this aint good enough .

The Club continues to kid itself week after week.We are mid table on a good day and relegation material on a poor day and thats why Venkys will at some point soon get bored of throwing money at it.

Bowyer has brought in a fair few players now and the general view has to be that no better than ok for some and downright waste of money for quite a lot of them.If this was our last shot at using parachute money to get promoted this season then i dread to think what we will end up with when the squeeze is on.

Its a bloody shambles and if we lose on saturday the next home game against Millwall will be like the cup replay-EMPTY!!

The spirit of the fans is close to break point

That sums it up for me. I am going to make a point if not listening to any more live commentar.It is like a bloody script.

The worrying thing for me is that it is not just Kean. The second goal is a scandal all on its own. Teams must really look forward to playing us at home.

The awful thing about it all is that these soft as s**/ easy to beat/ no-shows are now happening in the Championship.

[JAL]

Inconsistent performances and results, characteristics of a mid-table side.

How far off is Robbo being fit? I suspect he must be close to full fitness now but are the club holding him back because they want to get rid? Wouldn't be the first time players have been frozen out at this club. If he's fit he should be starting over Kean who was showing signs of decline in performance towards the end of last season and that has carried on into this one.

Not sure what this two defensive midfielders especially away from home is doing for Rovers. I know they play that formation and select that personnel because in theory it should make you more solid and hard to beat. On the evidence to date it's clearly not working.

At the end of the day you have to expect more performances and results like this for the rest of the season. You will get wins one week, draws or losses the next. Bowyer needs to be careful, most fans expect mid-table this season but they aren't the ones making the decision on whether to keep him in the job. The possibility of him being in danger come January is quite real.

Souness and Dalglish wouldnt have had most of these players anywhere near their teams surely. as both these guys were winners and demanded only the best.

[Leonard Venkhater]

Whatever people think about Bowyer, at least he's refreshingly honest!

http://audioboo.fm/boos/1774306

OMG! He could hardly speak for his anger. Good!

[RevidgeBlue]

Our away form is shocking. Only 2 away wins in 2013 and just 5 since we were relegated,

That's not a problem exclusive to since we were relegated though, our away record was absolutely atrocious under Sam as well.

We all know under him it was absolutely vital to win enough home games to keep us up, away games seemed less important and well, if we were playing one of the big 4 away from home the players could more or less put their feet up and take the weekend off. It's almost as if the players have never shaken off this sort of attitude, and don't consider they need to perform to the same standard expected of them in home games even though it's a completely different ball game now and there are no unwinnable games at this level.

[jim mk2]

Sam Allardyce to blame for the current players' mindset - I've heard it all now.

What a load of piffle.

[West Yorks Rover]

That's not a problem exclusive to since we were relegated though, our away record was absolutely atrocious under Sam as well.

We all know under him it was absolutely vital to win enough home games to keep us up, away games seemed less important and well, if we were playing one of the big 4 away from home the players could more or less put their feet up and take the weekend off. It's almost as if the players have never shaken off this sort of attitude, and don't consider they need to perform to the same standard expected of them in home games even though it's a completely different ball game now and there are no unwinnable games at this level.

Sam used to win 4/5 away from home usually if I remember rightly, we're much worse than that since he left. We all know he picked his winnable

ones though, I stopped going to the big clubs away because of that, so did plenty of others.

[RevidgeBlue]

Overall incredibly frustrating that we seemed to almost stumble on a winning combination bt accident on Saturday when Williamson was ill and for whatever reason haven't or haven't been able to stick with it tonight.

That's not a dig at Williamson who I consider to be the best of our defensive midfielders but we saw at the start of the season that an ultra defensive pairing with no creativity of Lowe and Marrow doesn't work and now exactly the same mistake is being repeated with Lowe and Williamson.

I am also starting to worry about the futures of the excellent Tom Cairnet and Rochina. If Cairney is going to be regularly stuck out and marginalised on the right, would he have any interest in signing permanently? And Rochina who is probably still our most potent attacking threat other than Rhodes is fit again but can't seem to get more than a cameo couple of minutes or so. If those two depart in January we'll be back to square one where we were with Appleton in terms of the side being stripped of any creativity.

Sam Allardyce to blame for the current players' mindset - I've heard it all now.

What a load of piffle.

Didn't say that though, did I.

[somersetrover]

The main problem is that Bowyer doesn't have a clue what his best team is and what formation he wants to play. Which mean Bowyer is out of his depth, working with this squad of players.

[jim mk2]

I am also starting to worry about the futures of the excellent Tom Cairnet and Rochina. If Cairney is going to be regularly stuck out and marginalised on the right, would he have any interest in signing permanently? And Rochina who is probably still our most potent attacking threat other than Rhodes is fit again but can't seem to get more than a cameo couple of minutes or so. If those two depart in January we'll be back to square one where we were with Appleton in terms of the side being stripped of any creativity.

Didn't say that though, did I.

The "excellent" Rochina has never had a regular game under a succession of managers. I wonder why that could be ? Is it possibly because he is wasted as a footballer and should be a ballet dancer ? The prancing showpony has never been "excellent" at any point in his career which to date has promised little and delivered nothing. If Rochina is the answer to our problems then I don't what the question is.

[West Yorks Rover]

Overall incredibly frustrating that we seemed to almost stumble on a winning combination bt accident on Saturday when Williamson was ill and for whatever reason haven't or haven't been able to stick with it tonight.

That's not a dig at Williamson who I consider to be the best of our defensive midfielders but we saw at the start of the season that an ultra defensive pairing with no creativity of Lowe and Marrow doesn't work and now exactly the same mistake is being repeated with Lowe and Williamson.

I am also starting to worry about the futures of the excellent Tom Cairnet and Rochina. If Cairney is going to be regularly stuck out and marginalised on the right, would he have any interest in signing permanently? And Rochina who is probably still our most potent attacking threat other than Rhodes is fit again but can't seem to get more than a cameo couple of minutes or so. If those two depart in January we'll be back to square one where we were with Appleton in terms of the side being stripped of any creativity.

Didn't say that though, did I.

I find it unbelievable that GB can't see that Cairney's best position by far, is central, it's equivalent to Man Utd playing Carrick out wide,

and you're correct Rev somebody will have noticed how good he is, and he'll be off in Jan if this carries on.

[somersetrover]

The "excellent" Rochina has never had a regular game under a succession of managers. I wonder why that could be ? Is it possibly because he is wasted as a footballer and should be a ballet dancer ? The prancing showpony has never been "excellent" at any point in his career which to date has promised little and delivered nothing. If Rochina is the answer to our problems then I don't what the question is.

Kean, Berg and Appleton say no more.

[tomphil]

The main problem is that Bowyer doesn't have a clue what his best team is and what formation he wants to play. Which mean Bowyer is out of his depth, working with this squad of players.

As much as i don't like to moan about GB im begining to think the same. He seems at times to make changes for the sake of it. He couldn't wait to throw on Etuhu when he decided to be available, same with Campbell everytime he's remotely available he starts or throws him on. Maybe he's under pressure to do so? It's annoying because he got most things right on Saturday as he's done many times before but then he seems to kean it up often as well. At least he's not tried to gloss things over in his interview this time. About time the whole lot of them got a kick up the jacksie !

[SoldierMo]

Just cant get over cairney being played on left just sooooooo bloody frustrating and becoming rather annoying

[jim mk2]

Kean, Berg and Appleton say no more.

41 games in 3 years under 4 managers. Say no more.

[rovermagic]

You would'nt think we were playing with 2 dm's. the ease they have scored .

That's the point. For 65% of match our two DMs retreated, did not close down up the pitch or even in middle of pitch. Part of this is lack of quality. Can part of it also be poor coaching?

[G Somerset Rover]

That's the point. For 65% of match our two DMs retreated, did not close down up the pitch or even in middle of pitch. Part of this is lack of quality. Can part of it also be poor coaching?

Cairney alongside Lowe OR Williamson is decent enough for this division. Playing Cairney out wide is schoolboy stuff from Bowyer. It's like when England kept trying it so that we didn't have to drop Lampard, Scholes or Gerrard. It doesn't work.

[arbitro]

Not sure how many of the 302 Rovers' fans who attended tonight are based in East Lancs but 256 miles is a bloody

long trek on a Tuesday night, they must be pigsick !

Well done to you all, you deserve so much better than that !

Just back and extremely frustrated and angry. Bowyer has to step up to the plate now and stop protecting the serial under achievers. He also needs to take a long, hard look at himself. Team selection, tactics and substitutions are sub standard and the buck stops with him. Recently he has baffled a lot of us with his decisions and this cannot be put down to inexperience an& in all honesty, with tensions running high it's only a matter of time before e cops it.

[CapeTownRover]

im speechless. mistake after mistake cost Joe Hart his place at City, but it seems that Kean will not be replaced at this point in time. if we have, well if we had any hope of the playoffs, then we just cannot continue with Kean. we also cannot play with both Lowe and Wiliamson in midfield. the team selection last night was suicidal.

[pick32]

Wow never herd Bowyer so angry before, the positives are that Rhodes got back amongst the goals an that Kane got suspended giving Henley a shot. Glad to hear its not Hanleys shoulder aswel.

[Waggy76]

Maybe , like most fans Bowyer realises we wont be anywhere, near the shake up for the Play offs ...

So being defensive at home and away , he is just avoiding relegation and happy for a mid table finish !

I am not being totally serious ...

But the squad is just not good enough , too much deadwood and very little talent ..

[K-Hod]

Far from it. Truth be known our squad depth is absolutely diabolocal.

As Jim said earlier this week things are not helped by the utter over reaction that greets the occasional victory.

The decision to spend money on Marshall and not on Sandomierski is looking even more pathetic

13th is exactly where we should be

Same happens when we lose. This messageboard is schizophrenic.

[Rover_Shaun]

Same happens when we lose. This messageboard is schizophrenic.

When we lose normality is restored as the over excitable meerly come back to reality.

Whatever people think about Bowyer, at least he's refreshingly honest!

http://audioboo.fm/boos/1774306

Talk is cheap. It's time for actions. He's said it (too) many times before about mistakes etc but what I want to know is

"WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO STOP IT GARY? DO YOU EVEN HAVE IT IN YOU?"

[blueboy3333]

Is our squad any worse than Burnleys, Blackpools or Hudds? Not a chance. Has Bowyer had more money to spend than those teams? Yes. The buck stops with the manager. Maybe there are a few bad eggs in the squad but that is no excuse for the gutless away performances that have become the norm. Barnsley won at Brighton last night, we were hammered there the other week. It's a very even league yet we make all home teams look like Bayern Munich.

No more excuses Bowyer.

[Daremz]

Was in the away end yesterday. Very poor first goal to concede, Lowe absolutely nowhere near the goalscorer. First half we had a few spells with some decent football but should have scored one more. Second half was horror.

Positives for me were Williamson, Rhodes (although he should have passed to King halfway through the 2nd half instead of shooting) and Dann. Read some comments about Dann on these boards but he really is very important, esp because Kane and Spurr were shockingly bad. Williamson is way better than Lowe, who was very poor. Spurr was our weakest link, Kean not worth mentioning. Campbell and Gestede made no contribution, King and Cairney didn't have their nights but at least show some potential. Lets get some positives out of the first half and learn from all the negatives in the second half...