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[imy9]

For being irresponsible parents,

and legal costs

Are you advocating that for all parents of children who commit crimes?

[yoda]

Are you advocating that for all parents of children who commit crimes?

When they are minors it would be a good start don't you think

[imy9]

When they are minors it would be a good start don't you think

Not really. Kids know the difference between right and wrong by about 11. Punishing parents is never going solve the problem, in fact it will give kids a ready made excuse to blame them imo!

[yoda]

Not really. Kids know the difference between right and wrong by about 11. Punishing parents is never going solve the problem, in fact it will give kids a ready made excuse to blame them imo!

The law does not agree with that though, parents should be responsible for their minors

[Mike E]

The law does not agree with that though, parents should be responsible for their minors

The law agrees completely. Hence age of criminal responsibility being 10.

[ABBEY]

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/12910923.TERROR_PLOT__Blackburn_teenager_charged_over____bid_to_incite_beheading___/

charged ..

[adopted scouser]

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/12910923.TERROR_PLOT__Blackburn_teenager_charged_over____bid_to_incite_beheading___/

charged ..

I'll get the PG tips, you get the custard creams

[ABBEY]

2 sugars sir?

[yoda]

The law agrees completely. Hence age of criminal responsibility being 10.

Think you should read this

http://family.findlaw.com/emancipation-of-minors/how-long-do-parents-legal-obligations-to-their-children-continue.html

[Mike E]

Think you should read this

http://family.findlaw.com/emancipation-of-minors/how-long-do-parents-legal-obligations-to-their-children-continue.html

I had considered that, but isn't that Family Law rather than Criminal Law? The family has an obligation to nurture and provide basic care, but a child choosing to commit a crime doesn't fall under that.

Also one is the parents' crime, the other the child's crime.

That's my perception of it, anyway. Perhaps any resident solicitors on the site could clarify?

[yoda]

I had considered that, but isn't that Family Law rather than Criminal Law? The family has an obligation to nurture and provide basic care, but a child choosing to commit a crime doesn't fall under that.

Also one is the parents' crime, the other the child's crime.

That's my perception of it, anyway. Perhaps any resident solicitors on the site could clarify?

I would say they go hand in hand, bring em up right and they won't do it,

So is bringing up children wrong not a crime, it should be

[K-Hod]

I would say they go hand in hand, bring em up right and they won't do it,

So is bringing up children wrong not a crime, it should be

It's not always necessarily the fault of the parents though. Plenty of good kids falls in with the wrong crowd to be fair.

[ABBEY]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-stone-gay-men-death-5572837

more evil from the chaps that need a cuppa.

[yoda]

It's not always necessarily the fault of the parents though. Plenty of good kids falls in with the wrong crowd to be fair.

Can you see the contradiction in that response ?

[K-Hod]

Can you see the contradiction in that response ?

True, but kids often find a way don't they? For example, how much can you control who your kids knock about with at school??

[yoda]

True, but kids often find a way don't they? For example, how much can you control who your kids knock about with at school??

You can't, but you can instil what is right and wrong, if you try!

I think it is called responsibility, which is something that cannot be delegated.

[K-Hod]

You can't, but you can instil what is right and wrong, if you try!

I know exactly what you're saying, I do. But I just do think that these parents will be embarrassed and ashamed enough without getting prosecuted as well....

[imy9]

You can't, but you can instil what is right and wrong, if you try!

I think it is called responsibility, which is something that cannot be delegated.

Who is to say the parents haven't? Such a grey area.

[Audax]

100 year anniversary of Gallipoli.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-32432725

In remembrance

[jim mk2]

US going back to the 1960s to judge from events in Baltimore and elsewhere. Sad to say it, but with record levels of inequality and opportunity and the race issue raising its ugly head again owing to a violent and aggressive military-style police force the US is becoming a failed state.

[T J Hooker]

USA is on its arse as a whole, its like the last days of Rome over there, just much duller(at the momemnt anyway)

[T J Hooker]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-32492853

Sorry, he's not actually been charged yet(out on bail) and I don't think its an actual councillor(just one of their cronies doing the dirty work for them)

[speeeeeeedie]

US going back to the 1960s to judge from events in Baltimore and elsewhere. Sad to say it, but with record levels of inequality and opportunity and the race issue raising its ugly head again owing to a violent and aggressive military-style police force the US is becoming a failed state.

Nice hyperbole. It's fine where I am. What do you think Yemen is?

Anyway, after the events in Ferguson last year the media now have police shootings as topic number 1. It riles up idiots and they go berserk. Baltimore will be quieter a lot quicker than Ferguson was.

[ultrablue]

Baltimore will be quieter a lot quicker than Ferguson was.

I'm not sure about that. The reasons for the mans spine injury have still not been explained. People will continue to protest until they are. then there is either a trial or no charges will be brought. All this gives ample oppurtunity for looters to exploit the tinderbox. And of course the media will be there to cover it all.

As you say, these riots so far have been very much contained in one or two neighbourhoods, both in Ferguson and in Baltimore. Most Americans won't feel any of it, unless their police force is the next to fudge up.

[Audax]

This isn't a mainstream news source.

However, they report that Grey apparently had serious spinal problems from an accident, he had had unsuccessful surgery a number of times.

http://thefourthestate.co/2015/04/breaking-freddy-gray-had-spine-surgery-just-one-week-before-arrest/

CONFIRMED: Court records show Freddie Gray was receiving a structured settlement from Allstate Insurance and attempted to convert it into one lump sum in early March

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EXCLUSIVE: The Fourth Estate has been told that Freddie Gray’s life-ending injuries to his spine may have possibly been the result of spinal and neck surgery that he allegedly received a week before he was arrested, not from rough excessively rough treatment or abuse from police.