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[ultrablue]

Just out of interest, do you speak Korean or is the main language French there ?

나는 한국말을 점점 더 잘 해용. 불어는 별로ᆞ ㅋㅋㅋ

[ABBEY]

Islam peaceful people .. @#/? at it in France again

[yoda]

나는 한국말을 점점 더 잘 해용. 불어는 별로ᆞ ㅋㅋㅋ

당신은 더 나은 번역이 필요합니다

Your reply was to be expected, I find the grammar falls down using cheap translators

Islam peaceful people .. @#/? at it in France again

France has the biggest Muslim population Europe apparently, with French passports, which means they can come to the UK freely.

[ABBEY]

Tunisia as well

[ABBEY]

now Kuwait..27 dead in holiday complex in Tunisia.

[perthblue02]

now Kuwait..27 dead in holiday complex in Tunisia.

Think we best get Mr Myers to make a few more sandwiches (halal chicken only) and invite them over to the tea party, that will sort it out, turn beheadings into cuddles

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

One constant with these Islamic extremists...they murder innocent people who have no means of fighting back.

Tourists on a Beach,Primary School Children next?...Brainwashed cowards.

[adopted scouser]

One constant with these Islamic extremists...they murder innocent people who have no means of fighting back.

Tourists on a Beach,Primary School Children next?...Brainwashed cowards.

And what are we doing about it ? Nothing.

Lots of condemnation and even condemnation in the strongest terms, but err, nothing.

Western powers must collectively drive out these hate driven Mohammedans, come down on them, hard.

But it won't happen.

[Amo]

Western powers are the ones responsible for creating ISIS. We can't keep invading countries under false pretenses, bombing innocent civilians, and creating power vacuums that engender terrorist organisations without expecting some kind of backlash.

[adopted scouser]

Western powers are the ones responsible for creating ISIS. We can't keep invading countries under false pretenses, bombing innocent civilians, and creating power vacuums that engender terrorist organisations without expecting some kind of backlash.

So that rationale allows the murder of innocent people sunbathing ?!

To quote Mark E Smith, I think you should realise who's side you are on.

[Hasta]

Western powers are the ones responsible for creating ISIS. We can't keep invading countries under false pretenses, bombing innocent civilians, and creating power vacuums that engender terrorist organisations without expecting some kind of backlash.

@#/? alert

[T J Hooker]

Amarillo's post isn't in anyway condoning whats happening or saying we should 'allow' it from what I can see, he's just giving some brief reasonable explanations why its happening.

[Hasta]

Amarillo's post isn't in anyway condoning whats happening or saying we should 'allow' it from what I can see, he's just giving some brief reasonable explanations why its happening.

But he's wrong.

ISIS are not at conflict with just Western Powers. They are also at conflict with other Muslim groups as shown with the Kuwaiti bombing on Shias today. The uprisings in Syria and other predominantly Muslim countries left a vacuum for ISIS to appear in just as much as what happened in Iraq over the last decade.

The backward mentality of minority Muslim extremists is what is predominantly responsible for the shooting of tourists on a beach today, the murder of Shias in Kuwait today, the murder and abuse of Palestinian refugees recently and many other atrocities. Western powers foreign policy has given them some space to breath (and also allowed them to grow by being reluctant to intervene again) and also given them the influence to recruit. However to hold them predominantly responsible for ISIS creation is just deflecting blame.

[Baz]

These people espouse being Muslims, but in truth they are very very far from that. Time to start untying the link between them and Islam. There are massive differences, and by allowing them to be a voice of Islam we are effectively tarring all Muslims.

They are pushing their (evil) views as being the teachings of Islam, but it's against the fundamental teachings of Islam.

This is a new world in terms of the battle, they will not form a line and contend a battlefield (as they know they will be obliterated), what is terrifying is that they can hide in plain sight in our country's, they can recruit members under our noses etc...

How do we deal with them? Its far from simple, and I don't think anyone has a figured it out yet, but let's not make them stronger by allowing them to decry their atrocities as being Islamic.

(Simplistic I know, and much smaller in scale)When Brevik slaughtered those kids in Norway, and declared himself as a fundamentalist Christian we didn't think twice that his doings where representative of Christianity.

[Gav]

One constant with these Islamic extremists...they murder innocent people who have no means of fighting back.

Tourists on a Beach,Primary School Children next?...Brainwashed cowards.

The IRA did the same and had the backing of America also.

[ABBEY]

Amarillo's post isn't in anyway condoning whats happening or saying we should 'allow' it from what I can see, he's just giving some brief reasonable explanations why its happening.

just like he denies the holocaust.

[thenodrog]

The IRA did the same and had the backing of America also.

And priests were frequently complicit. Religion that espouses eternal life is not only for the intellectually weak brainwashed from the cradle but inevitably promotes evil in certain of it's followers.

[T J Hooker]

irrelevant to the discussion (and not even true from what I remember of that discussion, he just didn't believe it happened exactly as we've been led to believe)

[thenodrog]

Presumably because 6 million witnesses were exterminated.

TJ You are guilty of defending the indefensible.

[ABBEY]

Plane from New York to Kuwait declares emergency and diverted to UK .

Barmy

[yoda]

The best thing to do is ban all religion,

science is the answer

[T J Hooker]

yes because legally 'banning' things always works and I'm sure a ban would really make a psychotic terrorist think twice, maybe we can just treat all muslims(and any other non conformist) the way the Hitlers Nazis treat jews, whilst we're at it.

[yoda]

yea right, because legally 'banning' things always works

You really are a numpty

[T J Hooker]

well ban me as well then(cos that always works )

seriously though, it really didn't take you long to start with the insults instead of addressing what you think is wrong with what I'm getting at in my post.

[yoda]

Lots of things get banned for all manner of reasons and it works, take idiot drivers for one

Religion is the route cause of 99% of all conflicts in the world based on misguided medieval teachings,

no place for it in the modern world where science has the answer to solve the problems of the planet,

now jog on numpty