[Archived] DJ Campbell arrested on match fixing allegations

[thenodrog]

  On 10/12/2013 at 08:24, Tom M said:

There is no anti Rhodes crew that I have seen

Anyway I agree with others we can't just sack or suspend without pay. If he was found not guilty we'd have an almighty lawsuit on our hands I imagine

Surely we could pay his money to a third party until innocence or guilt is proven? Whether the accusations actually render him unavailable for selection thereby effectively breaking his contract I couldn't even speculate. I don't even know if footballers contracts count as personal ones or business ones. If business then maybe a Force majeur clause is inserted. As I've said what I know about employment law can be written on the back of a postage stamp.

  On 10/12/2013 at 10:35, Bucksrover said:

So if we can't stop paying DJ we will have him, Etuhu, Best and Robinson being paid about £114k a week but not currently being considered for the first team for various reasons.

Between these 4 we have a £6 million pound a year wage drain.

Correct but it's our own fault and nobody elses.

[Amo]

  On 10/12/2013 at 11:53, Plastics said:

And rightly so.

A wild braddock appears. Where you been hiding?

[thenodrog]

  On 10/12/2013 at 08:46, Jimmy612 said:

So do I. 20 grand free'd up. Unfortunately I seriously doubt that money would see the loan market. Therefore are we just another striker short? Not ideal if Rhodes got injured.

Just signed one haven't we?

[Plastics]

  On 10/12/2013 at 11:58, Amarillo said:

A wild braddock appears. Where you been hiding?

Just nipped back in for a quick look at the DJ Campbell thing.

[EgyptianPete]

  On 10/12/2013 at 10:55, Parsonblue said:

I think you might find the no play no pay line a difficult one to argue in court. He has not been charged as yet and is therefore, technically, free to play for the club. The fact that the club will opt not to play him is the club's decision, and obviously a sensible one, but under those circumstances he is, quite rightly, entitled to be paid until the situation changes. If he admits the charges that is a different matter but there is no suggestion that he has and so is still a Blackburn Rovers player and will have to be paid unless the club offer to pay his contract up in full and give him a free transfer.

Fair Comment

[T.J.Newton]

  On 10/12/2013 at 11:35, FGS5635 said:

In theory how would you get them winnings onto the clubs books?

I'm sure there would be ways, fair point though, hopefully your right and it's just an isolated incident at the club.

P.s. Just out of curiosity, does your board name mean anything?

[T.J.Newton]

Realistically how can the club possibly be expected to play him considering what he's been caused of until he's proved innocent.

[FGS5635]

  On 10/12/2013 at 12:36, T.J.Newton said:

I'm sure there would be ways, fair point though, hopefully your right and it's just an isolated incident at the club.

P.s. Just out of curiosity, does your board name mean anything?

Yh Im sure there would be some way of moving the cash into rovers, but it would be a huge risk

Nah board name is just my username for pc at work. Dont know why I didnt pick something cooler/funnier

[thenodrog]

Cos under English law he is innocent..... until proven guilty. I think the French work it the other way around, or at least they did.

[darrenrover]

Not any longer Theno. Brussels amended that anomaly.

[tomphil]

  On 10/12/2013 at 07:22, Ricky said:

It seems like the other clubs involved have suspended players without pay or cancelled their contracts. I don't see why we have to be any different.

The fact he was brought in by Shaw and was another one signed in strange circumstances with a various snouts in the trough then i doubt they'll suspend his contact. Those snouts will still want feeding their scraps no doubt, unless the order comes from Pune of course.

[FGS5635]

Suspend him without pay. By the time it goes to trial and he wins we will maybe be in administration. Then he can have 5p in the £1 like most of the other folk we owe.

[philipl]

I believe a case like this will be in the hands of the DPP to decide given that it is a likely prison sentence following the case of the Pakistan cricketers.

[OJRovers]

If we do continue to pay him (without him playing) then surely IF he is found guilty we could claim those wages back?

[FGS5635]

  On 10/12/2013 at 13:23, OJRovers said:

If we do continue to pay him (without him playing) then surely IF he is found guilty we could claim those wages back?

The trouble is if he knows he's giulty and in danger of that happening he can move all his money around/hide it and proclaim not to have the funds to pay us

[OJRovers]

  On 10/12/2013 at 13:25, FGS5635 said:

The trouble is if he knows he's giulty and in danger of that happening he can move all his money around/hide it and proclaim not to have the funds to pay us

Pin him down and remove his teeth

[FGS5635]

We are a reported 60m in debt and growing. The question is why would we pay him if he cant play?

  On 10/12/2013 at 13:26, OJRovers said:

Pin him down and remove his teeth

lol that made me chuckle. Im sure we'd have a few volunteers to perform it to

[martonrover]

  On 10/12/2013 at 10:30, Tom M said:

Rubbish chant that

Still better than ' Get into em ' .

[philipl]

I come back to the point that he is employed to provide a service that the current allegations make it impossible to render.

If his lawyers are indicating that he is going to fight the allegations with all energy, then Rovers have a problem.

On the other hand, if he is being offered a plea bargaining deal and is considering it.... then the Rovers lawyers (oh no the chap who said our current Chairman had gone rogue etc???) should be looking at suing Campbell to recover past wages, never mind firing him forthwith.

[RevidgeBlue]

As usual you are talking complete and utter rubbish Philip.

What is preventing him from playing? Has he had a leg removed whilst being held in custody for questioning?

If he says he is innocent of all accusations then as far as he is concerned he is available for selection as before, nothing has changed. It must be a Club decision to suspend him though surely to maintain the integrity and reputation of the Club, or at least what's left of it.

If he admits it, it's a different scenario. We'd have grounds for firing him with immediate effect sure, but talk of suing him to recover wages paid to date is pure pie in the sky unless it could be shown that he was involved in a constant pattern of illegal activities ever since we signed him.

Edit: If you don't believe me read Parson's posts on the subject again. They sum up the situation extremely well.

[Jimmy612]

Don't know if anyone has already posted this.

He didn't turn up for training today.... probably for the best at the moment.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/10866048.Blackburn_Rovers_set_to_hold_talks_with_DJ_Campbell_about_his_future/?ref=var_0

[philipl]

We will see Revidge.

By the way would you happily play alongside DJ in a Rovers shirt on Saturday?

As for suing the player, I think we can be certain that none of the alleged bribes were for playing better, making himself available for the team more often, helping Rovers win etc. You know the sorts of things he is paid £20K a week to do for the club.

I don't know what you do for a living rb but if I took, say, £30k from a third party to deliberately mess up my work for my employers making it more difficult for them to achieve their objectives, I would be thinking about the risk of my employers coming after me for civil damages and recovery of moneys paid to me.

[Lancs Rover]

As far as I understand it, Rovers will not be able to say or do anything that implies DJ is guilty as that might, in theory at least, prejudice any future trial. Or, rather, to be more specific, it could prejudice a 'not guilty' verdict.

At the moment, and unless and until he is convicted at a trial, he is not guilty of any crime.

[Mike Graham]

I wonder if DJ features on the Official Rovers 2014 calendar?

He may well be on the Official Scrubs calendar for 2015.

[Shabani]

In the Mail today it says the FA may ban all the players till the NCA investigation has finished