Jimbobololo Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 I don't know why you keep banging on about it Jim. I've already told you that you are obviously correct. Levy is clearly an absolutely useless administrator a Spurs. His time at the club has resulted in massive financial losses and relegation. Oh no, wait that's us. You could pick out examples of bad buys/sales at every club so why is it that Levy has a reputation as being a tough nut to crack when transfers are being discussed? It's because time and again he makes a killing when selling players and keeps the club on the up - in a league where real mistakes are VERY costly, as we have seen first hand. They spent the £85m from Bale in a hurry due to the timing but ultimately he backed his manager with funds (we have no idea of how they are financed) rather than simply take the cash but you sit behind your keyboard and say that an established chairman at a PL league football club for the last 12 years, consistently keeping them in the top half places of the richest league in the world, despite turning over players has no business acumen? Oh dear. Oh dear...
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chris_h Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 I can't stand Tottenham, never could. Good luck to Tim Sherwood..................... ..................Somewhere else.
Stuart Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 Oh dear...I'm not surprised you disagree with me. You usually do. Thankfully I have as much respect for your opinion as you do for mine.I wonder who's doing the best at this moment in time though, Jim and his football club, or Levy and his. I don't even like Levy particularly but to call his credentials as a businessman into question is complete bunkum.
The Dart Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 For the finances they have, their constant mediocrity is shameful! Media darlings too! So plenty of people are blind to their perennial failures.
Amo Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 I don't know why you keep banging on about it Jim. I've already told you that you are obviously correct. Levy is clearly an absolutely useless administrator a Spurs. His time at the club has resulted in massive financial losses and relegation. Oh no, wait that's us. So because Levy hasn't got Spurs in financial meltdown, he's a prudent administrator? Spurs are a capital-based club with a massive fanbase and belong to Deloitte's financial elite. What do they have to show for it in the last 20 years? Two league cup trophies and a brief dalliance in the Champions League? Our modest trophy cabinet is more impressive than that. Levy might be adept at balancing the books and a shrewd negotiator (oysh!) but his lack of direction has turned Spurs into one of the biggest underachievers in the game. He goes through managers & players like nobody's business and lets his irrepressible ego drive a wedge between any stability and success the club might have.
Stuart Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 But that's such a silly argument. So because Levy hasn't got Spurs in financial meltdown, he's a prudent administrator?Well he's been doing it for 12 years and they've not ousted him yet. So he's doing something right.By the way, it's daytime outside. I await Jim to come along and tell me it's night...
Majiball Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 For the finances they have, their constant mediocrity is shameful! Media darlings too! So plenty of people are blind to their perennial failures. I think that could be applied to most clubs given the success rate of transfers and the monies involved.
Amo Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 Well he's been doing it for 12 years and they've not ousted him yet. So he's doing something right. Probably because he has a convenient scapegoat on the touchline.
Stuart Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 Probably because he has a convenient scapegoat on the touchline. You make it sound like he is the only chairman to sack a manager.
Backroom Tom Posted December 26, 2013 Backroom Posted December 26, 2013 Best negotiator in the business? What about Venkys? Buy players, pay the agents too much then pay the players to leave and continue paying them
yoda Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 The best thing spuds ever did was copy our kit, not so sure that post is good enough for the 5000 mark though!
Amo Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 You make it sound like he is the only chairman to sack a manager. Not at all, but it's easy to deflect blame onto the manager after spending a king's ransom and not achieving overnight success.
Majiball Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 Not at all, but it's easy to deflect blame onto the manager after spending a king's ransom and not achieving overnight success. and even one with a 55% win rate. levys clever he will have built his relationship with the owner to degree he'll never really be questioned and can buck pass easily.
yoda Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 Welcome to the World Cup Yoda. Ah, cheers, didn't know if 5000 meant anything or not, can I be aloof for a while
Majiball Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 You can do what you want mate. Just watch out for the tyrants!!!
yoda Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 You can do what you want mate. Just watch out for the tyrants!!! tyrants lol think they may need some back up
Majiball Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 Not even Palpatine could tame you Yoda. Just remember to focus and type 'this isn't the post you're looking for' and I'm sure they'll move along swiftly.
yoda Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 Not even Palpatine could tame you Yoda. Just remember to focus and type 'this isn't the post you're looking for' and I'm sure they'll move along swiftly. wise are you
Majiball Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 Always pass on what you have learned ( do I assume you are a Star Wars fan as well?)
yoda Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 Always pass on what you have learned ( do I assume you are a Star Wars fan as well?) Star Trek 1st then Star Wars
jim mk2 Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 Lewis is the owner of Spurs and the money man behind Spurs NOT Levy. Levy is just the Chairman of the club. Correct. Lewis is very wealthy and operates from the Bahamas to evade tax in this country (which makes him a loathsome in my book) and formed Enic some years ago as a vehicle in which to gain control of Spurs. Levy is just his lackey who does his dirty work here. They've spent 600 million and barely achieved anything The money they recouped back has mostly been wasted Imagine if Arsenal had spent that much? Multiple Champions League winners I'd imagine Or Everton, or Villa, or us under Hughes? Regular fixtures in the top 4 in all likelehood Levy has a reputation for extracting the most of out of buying clubs but then blows it on poor purchases and payoffs for manager who he sacks on a regular basis. I'm surprised Lewis tolerates him but then they do share a certain heritage and Levy is regarded as a "prudent administrator" with "business acumen" - at least according to the resident experts.
joey_big_nose Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 Sherwood looked totally out of his depth today against Arsenal. Barmy, shape was all over the place. Dont think tim will last if he tries to play that open.
Guest Norbert Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 Part of me would love to see a massive player revolt next season so he can get a taste of his own medicine.
chris_h Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 Part of me would love to see a massive player revolt next season so he can get a taste of his own medicine. I see you are a man of my ilk Norbert. I think I was the one at Grimsby who roundly booed Chris Price on his return to the club. Likewise I would have told Lucas Neill to @#/? right off when he asked to use our training facilities last week.
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