arbitro Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 On Neil leaving, whilst he's perfectly entitled to run his contract down to maximise his earnings, my recollection of it was that far from doing the honourable thing and informing us in advance that he was leaving, he said absolutely nothing about his intentions, leaving us hanging on thinking he might sign a new deal, then of course wouldn't when push came to shove. Partly the Club's fault as we should have fired him off down the road for some sort of fee long before it reached that point. He told Rovers early in the season he wouldn't be signing. He actually left in January rather than wait until the ed of the season. http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/1052216.Hughes_warns_rivals_over_restless_Neill/
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JBiz Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Ings will leave for more money than you'll ever get for Rhodes, he's a far better player. Back under the bridge troll. If you can't see the bias in what your saying, then you truly are as blind and stupid as the rest if your six fingered family affair.
tomphil Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Ings will leave for more money than you'll ever get for Rhodes, he's a far better player. I needed a really good laugh today and lo and behold there it is LOL. You can still always rely on the Dingles for comedy gold !
RevidgeBlue Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 He told Rovers early in the season he wouldn't be signing. He actually left in January rather than wait until the ed of the season. http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/1052216.Hughes_warns_rivals_over_restless_Neill/ Yeah, that article is as I recall it. There'd been a deal on the table for Neil for ages but he wouldn't sign it. I'm sure he never said he was leaving either though. Hughes bent over backwards for the greedy so and so even making him Club skipper. However by the January before his contract ran out it must have become apparent even to us that he wouldn't sign a new deal so we had no option but to sell him for a cut price 800k in January rather than lose him for nothing at the end of the season. If he'd signed a contract at any point, it wouldn't have had any bearing whatsoever on his eventual destination but we'd have picked up a decent fee. We've never had another player of any significance do that and I hope it's a while before we see it again.
SamDingle Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Back under the bridge troll. If you can't see the bias in what your saying, then you truly are as blind and stupid as the rest if your six fingered family affair. Ings scores as many goals, he’s younger, he’s yards faster, he’s better on the ball, he’s got quicker feet, he tracks back and links up play. That’s why Ings will sign for Liverpool or Southampton and Rhodes will sign for Palace or Forest. He cost £7m less and he’s loads better, just deal with it.
somersetrover Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Ings scores as many goals, he’s younger, he’s yards faster, he’s better on the ball, he’s got quicker feet, he tracks back and links up play. That’s why Ings will sign for Liverpool or Southampton and Rhodes will sign for Palace or Forest. He cost £7m less and he’s loads better, just deal with it. It's his first season in double figures, whereas Rhodes has been prolific for about 4 seasons now. Plenty of players have had half a good season or even a season where they have scored goals, the question about Ings is can he continue his form for the whole season and beyond that.
tomphil Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 I'd be quite happy to see Lucas back here on a short term deal if Dann left. He's experienced, can play a variety of positions - something which Gary wants in players - and with him hoping to be playing in the World Cup it would be in his best interests to be as involved as much as possible at first team level. He would provide some on field leadership which is no bad thing. Personally, I can't see a problem with him returning to Ewood as I had no problems when he opted to leave. He went for more money - and so have more players than I care to remember over the past 50 years or so at Ewood. Maximising your earning potential is pretty normal behaviour I would have thought. He's a greedy bum who is way way past his best and his opinion of himself is way beyond his station. No not the words of me a rovers fan but taken from an Aussie football site posting. West Ham fans were non plussed with him after a while either and he ain't popular down under hence why he's probably crawled back over here looking for another payday. Over the hill and a massive step in the wrong direction after all the lessons of recent years, send him packing. Maybe he could do a job for Stanley or even Chorley.
Backroom Tom Posted January 10, 2014 Backroom Posted January 10, 2014 But you are biased. As are we Chances are rovers fans haven't seen enough of Ings all round game and vice versa
McClarky Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Yeah, that article is as I recall it. There'd been a deal on the table for Neil for ages but he wouldn't sign it. I'm sure he never said he was leaving either though. Hughes bent over backwards for the greedy so and so even making him Club skipper. However by the January before his contract ran out it must have become apparent even to us that he wouldn't sign a new deal so we had no option but to sell him for a cut price 800k in January rather than lose him for nothing at the end of the season. If he'd signed a contract at any point, it wouldn't have had any bearing whatsoever on his eventual destination but we'd have picked up a decent fee. We've never had another player of any significance do that and I hope it's a while before we see it again. I suppose all this is academic really because there's no way we should be signing him anyway at this stage of this career.
McClarky Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Ings scores as many goals, he’s younger, he’s yards faster, he’s better on the ball, he’s got quicker feet, he tracks back and links up play. That’s why Ings will sign for Liverpool or Southampton and Rhodes will sign for Palace or Forest. He cost £7m less and he’s loads better, just deal with it. I don't know anything about Ings other than the odd clip on TV and can't remember much about him from the last Derby so can't compare but despite all you say I reckon Rhodes is currently worth more. Just because he's higher profile and has more of a track record. Not to say that might not be totally different in 12 months and is not a reflection of their abilities but if they both moved now we would get more for Rhodes. Personally can't see Rhodes moving though this window.
frosty Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/1052216.Hughes_warns_rivals_over_restless_Neill/ From that article: Liverpool, Newcastle and Barcelona have already been linked with a January swoop for Neill Did they slip Barcelona in for a joke? Really don't remember that.
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted January 10, 2014 Moderation Lead Posted January 10, 2014 Ings will leave for more money than you'll ever get for Rhodes, he's a far better player.A bit early to be making that comparison after half a season, compared to JR's several seasons!!
longsiders1882 Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 One thing with Ings - he cost a million and is now undoubtedly worth much more. Is he better than Rhodes? Couldn't say right now to be honest, he looks a more complete player but only time will really tell. I thought this was Rhodes second season at this level?
niggit Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 No way is Ings worth more. Rhodes just has that big profile, clubs already know how much it will take to get him. Pretty sure Burnley would sell Ings for less then 10-12 million.
OJRovers Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 What sort of wages is Ings on? Much more chance of his head being turned if someone wants to give him a big contract on the basis of half a good season.
onlyonejackwalker Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 You don't get sold for a million if you've only had half a good season. Especially it the purchase comes before your half a good season. Not seen enough of Ings to compare the two, but friends from the dark side rate him highly.
Ricky Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Mani, you said earlier that we signed Kilgallon as Dann's replacement but it back fired as we didn't sell Dann. You then go onto say you think we'll sign neill as Dann's replacement if he goes...... Can you see where I'm going with this?
Mani Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Stop winding people up you're worse than Mercerman. Would be Danny Murphy mark 2 if he signed. I'm not winding anyone up mate...that was me just putting 2 and 2 together..an opinion based on me knowing that they'd like some experience. He is a friend of Short though and I know that they talk about re-creating the mentality of that team that came back up a few years ago... These are just opinions like anyone else's...but I can see how Neill might fit in this scenario should Dann go...why not?? Mani, you said earlier that we signed Kilgallon as Dann's replacement but it back fired as we didn't sell Dann. You then go onto say you think we'll sign neill as Dann's replacement if he goes...... Can you see where I'm going with this? Yes I can... Kilgallon was Danns replacement in the summer but they also thought Songo might kick on. I actually don't know if they'll replace Dann should he go...I was just sum missing that Neill might be an option if they did. Make any sense? Mani, you said earlier that we signed Kilgallon as Dann's replacement but it back fired as we didn't sell Dann. You then go onto say you think we'll sign neill as Dann's replacement if he goes...... Can you see where I'm going with this? Yes I can... Kilgallon was Danns replacement in the summer but they also thought Songo might kick on. I actually don't know if they'll replace Dann should he go...I was just sum missing that Neill might be an option if they did. Make any sense?
Ricky Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 I'm a little surprised we haven't seen more of Kilgallon to be fair. Thought he was a good signing at the time. Maybe we will see more of him in the second half of the season.
The Rover of Finland Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Neill would be just as good as Santa Cruz and Bentley were when they came back. Seems like Dann is staying though.
Leonard Venkhater Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 I agree I don't. Key differences I would expect would be leadership,willingness to work and put a shift in.
Salgado Is A Hero Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 As are we Chances are rovers fans haven't seen enough of Ings all round game and vice versa The problem, as has been mentioned, is he's only been good for half a season. Too early to say how good he really is, just look at Papiss Cisse and Benteke.
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