chaddyrovers Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Would he? Are you saying that with any real knowledge of him or saying it because we are linked? Been speaking to a palace fan on twitter who says he is a good leader. he hasnt played much for 18 months due to a serious injury. but he has that championship experience we would need to replace Dann with. Whether he is fit enough and over his injury properly i dont know but now we have a proper scouting system in place that any signings will be proper scouting. speaking to J*B on twitter he was saying that Dawson from WBA would be a target to replace Dann. would cost around 1 mil. did well at Bolton last season. hardly played for WBA this season. J*B was also said that Norwich was in for Dann just before yesterday game on twitter
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Gav Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 There's only 2 reasons why Dann is captain & that's because he's got more experience than the others and the fact he cost us a bomb... Does that make him any good? No. Hanley is streets ahead of him and personally I think Dann is holding back Hanleys' development. I'll agree that he's consistent though... Just not in the same way. Dann could be adequately replaced with half the money we get from his sale I recon. It's all a matter of opinion of course but sell, sell, sell for me. It's Neal by the way fella. My Phone changed your name to Neil, apologies for that.Surely it begs the question why Premiership clubs are looking at Dann if he's as bad as some make out. I think he keeps that defensive unit together most of the time and gets caught out of position covering for others. His distribution is poor I grant you that, but to say he gets picked because he cost a bomb is laughable, but you do conced he gets picked because he's experienced which is exactly what we need. Selling Dann is a mistake in my book, we have no leaders to take over the captaincy and he's our best defender. But time will tell.
rovers11 Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Well then, if that's the case why have you used FFP to justify every signing on the cheap, every cut-back in expenditure for months? Shelfie was quoted as saying we were certain to face a transfer embargo next season so perhaps he's got it wrong and Venkys should have spent big at the start of the season to get us promotion? You have consistently argued they couldn't cos of FFP coming in. I don't think the cost cutting is solely down to FFP; the spending model last season was not effective or sustainable regardless of FFP. You can't have a significant amount of players on 20k+ per week in the championship for more than a season or two. You certainly can't have players on high wages who offer nothing and are not regular starters. That's not to do with FFP, that's just common sense and we would have got rid of the high earners from last season who weren't in the team regardless of FFP or not. We have to cut our cloth according whether FFP comes in or not.
Baz Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 So, French under 21 central midfielder Dabo will join Rovers on loan tomorrow according to the Daily Mail (who have quotes from Montpellier). Sounds like a good player but his signing would suggest GB intends to stick with cairney wide right. Montpellier are selling one of their 1st team midfielders to Newcastle (Cabella) so if they really rated this guy, surely they'd keep hold of him and play him? On the other hand he's a U21 international.
rovers11 Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Montpellier are selling one of their 1st team midfielders to Newcastle (Cabella) so if they really rated this guy, surely they'd keep hold of him and play him? On the other hand he's a U21 international. Probably a bit raw for the top league in France. They'll surely spend some of the Cabella money to reinforce their midfield so his game time will still be limited.
stanhillrover Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Surely we now need to be considering a replacement for Marshall if indeed he is going to be out for the remainder of the season (ligament damage?). Other than that it would be absolute madness to sell Dann and think we can 'make do' with Hanley and Kilgallon. We have no other centre halves, certainly none tested at Championship level. I would like us to move for Dawson at WBA who supposedly did very well at Bolton last season and fits in with the young, British philosophy we have at the moment.
Bucksrover Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Have we sold rover the dog? Haven't seen him at ewood since the watford game. if so wage trimming has a lot to answer for!
thenodrog Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Poor, very poor, and personal abuse too. But I wouldn't have expected anything less. The irony is breathtaking. Absolutely pointless signing given our current saturation in holding midfield. You need a right back and a centre half Gaz... Crack on.Correct but in reverse order.
thenodrog Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 There's only 2 reasons why Dann is captain & that's because he's got more experience than the others and the fact he cost us a bomb... Does that make him any good? No. Hanley is streets ahead of him and personally I think Dann is holding back Hanleys' development. I'll agree that he's consistent though... Just not in the same way. Dann could be adequately replaced with half the money we get from his sale I recon. It's all a matter of opinion of course but sell, sell, sell for me. It's Neal by the way fella. Be easier to change your name. However.... to accommodate Kilgallon Handley is now in Danns position and yesterday I thought he wasn't as 'close' to Henley as Dann would have been. Henley as a result got targetted by Derby and was rather taken the cleaners. A subtle difference but one that the defence will 'feel' more than might be apparent to the spectators .... if that makes sense.
Bucksrover Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 It sounds like Dabo can play centre-back as well so would hopefully be cover for corry evans and our centre-backs if dann goes. One player covering a couple positions is what we need with a smaller squad. At 6"1 and young he should be a better athlete than williamson who is my least favourite player. Article also says he is a good character in the dressing room.
thenodrog Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 It sounds like Dabo can play centre-back as well so would hopefully be cover for corry evans and our centre-backs if dann goes. One player covering a couple positions is what we need with a smaller squad. Squares the circle somewhat. Apart from key 'train' players Allardyce usually tried to work with a smaller squad by signing players who were adaptable enough to play in a number different positions. Kean and Anderson were numbers men.... for obvious reasons . As a result our squad swelled to ludicrous prortions, nearly all of whom we predictably lost money on.
Leonard Venkhater Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Be easier to change your name. However.... to accommodate Kilgallon Handley is now in Danns position and yesterday I thought he wasn't as 'close' to Henley as Dann would have been. Henley as a result got targetted by Derby and was rather taken the cleaners. A subtle difference but one that the defence will 'feel' more than might be apparent to the spectators .... if that makes sense. Haha...Like you changed Hanley's? You do make an interesting point about Dann minding Henley. Henley was clearly struggling against a very good player yesterday, but I do think he has struggled with Dann alongside him as well. I know there is much good that Dann may do that goes unobserved by spectators, but I was worried by his approach to a rookie keeper a few weeks back, who must already have been devastated by a glaring error. All I am saying is that his leadership credentials are at best mixed.
Mani Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 My guess is that they will get a CB, ST and a Winger. As i said at the start of this window it has been agreed that Dann can go as it benefits both parties. Financially for us and a move to the PL for Dann who is described as a "model professional". The cover at CB will be exactly that..COVER. Don't expect us to spend money on a big-ish name. Kilgallon was bought to replace Dann in the summer but through one reason or another he never left. I wouldn't be surprised if we re-called judge after Marshall's injury. We will look to bring experience throughout...
Rover_Shaun Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 On the other hand he's a U21 international. So is Bowyers adoptive son Mr Lowe and he's as much use as a chocolate fireguard I wouldn't take too much notice of 1 U21 cap and go off what you see when he plays
Brfcrule1 Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 And Dann hasn't been caught napping? Don't remember the ball being hoofed down the middle for their goal either. The ball came from their left back area and went through Williamson's legs didn't it? I may have dreamt that though. The ball from Kilgallon to Rhodes for Rovers goal was different class to the usual lump it forward from Dann. I agree though that another CB is needed before Dann is allowed to leave, It may have been built up down the left but as you say Willo air kicked it so the mistake happened down the spine of the team in the centre and between Willo, Lowe, Killgallon & Hanley that ball should really have been in row z before the guy picked it up and even then between those 4 they should have closed the guy down. Kilgallon has not put a foot wrong whenever i have seen him, including yesterday, was MOTM for me. And their goal was not a hoof down the middle either, built up down the left and Williamsom messed up with a fresh air kick that caught everyone out of position. Would he? Are you saying that with any real knowledge of him or saying it because we are linked? Tom I suspect it is the latter.
Backroom Tom Posted January 26, 2014 Backroom Posted January 26, 2014 That's unfair Savio you are basically saying its killgallons fault because Williamson plays in front of him
Salgado Is A Hero Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 http://frenchfootballweekly.com/2014/01/26/bryan-dabo-going-rover-to-blackburn/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=bryan-dabo-going-rover-to-blackburn There's an article on Bryan Dabo. Seems he is a defensive midfielder.
dingles staying down 4ever Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 It may have been built up down the left but as you say Willo air kicked it so the mistake happened down the spine of the team in the centre and between Willo, Lowe, Killgallon & Hanley that ball should really have been in row z before the guy picked it up and even then between those 4 they should have closed the guy down. Tom I suspect it is the latter. There is only one player to blame and it was not either of the centre halves. Yet again Rovers have suffered from an individual mistake.
JWUpper Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 We've rejected a bid for Dann from Norwich according to Sky...
Guest Norbert Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Hopefully, we can push the price up a bit, especially if Palace are also after him. And hopefully we have someone else lined up as well.
rovers11 Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 I'm indifferent about Dann leaving. He is a good championship defender but not worth 32k per week. Kilgallon is probably the same level as Dann so we have a ready made replacement. He was excellent yesterday. My feelings about his departure would also depend on who we replaced him with. If we sold him for 3m and brought in Dawson for 1m and far lower wages then that's excellent business. If we sell him and bring in someone like Paddy McCarthy then that's weakening our team.
Backroom Mike E Posted January 26, 2014 Backroom Posted January 26, 2014 http://frenchfootballweekly.com/2014/01/26/bryan-dabo-going-rover-to-blackburn/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=bryan-dabo-going-rover-to-blackburn There's an article on Bryan Dabo. Seems he is a defensive midfielder. I'm very slightly encouraged by that in a way. If he can move and put his foot in, he'll be better than Williamson.
AJW Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 i thought Kilgannon's distribution from the back yesterday was poor, not that Danns is any better , but to say Kilgannon had a great game is stretching it a bit ,he was ok, no better no worse
Bluemonday BRFC Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 "Contrary to reports in our local paper, where it said we've got money to spend, its not money to spend its money to bring people in on loan" (https://audioboo.fm/boos/1877421-audio-bbclancashire-blackburn-1-derby-1-gary-bowyer#t=2m22s).
Bucksrover Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 i thought Kilgannon's distribution from the back yesterday was poor, not that Danns is any better , but to say Kilgannon had a great game is stretching it a bit ,he was ok, no better no worse Put 2 decent central midfielders in front of the defence ( ideally more than the 4 metres lowe and williamson stand) and the defenders would have more to pass to. Can't wait for evans to get back
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