[Archived] Nottingham Forest vs. Rovers - Saturday 18th January 2014

[Al]

With two (poor) DM's and only one up front we play far too far back and teams can attack us with impunity and don't need to defend too much against us.

When will the manager see what 95% of the fans can see.

Get one of them off and Dunn on.

[Bucksrover]

1-2 down at HT is just about respectable FGS but 2 down after 20 minutes isn't.

We've probably given ourselves too much to do again today as often seems to be case. Far from shutting up shop we seem to ship goals for fun most of the time playing with the two defensive midfielders. No pressure on the opposition.

The effect of the 2 defensive midfielders anchoring our team too deep and inviting pressure doesn't seem to hit home with Bowyer.

It helped us to 3 nil down against Brum in the first half, then at half time Bowyer changed it - took Williamson off and moved Cairney central and we came back with 2 goals.

Leaving that day I thought I had seen the last of Williamson and Lowe pushing Cairney out wide.

But it seems not.

[Majiball]

did forest play mid week?

[Bundesburn]

Sorry, why are we pleased that Reading are winning? Now sitting in 6th.

And @#/? to Forest being a better side than us. They were 4 points ahead of us at kick-off. They've had a better first half, but this is a must-win. We're around the playoffs and we need to stay there, simple as.

[RevidgeBlue]

Re: the defence, if they're under constant pressure all the time because the midfield is non existent they will be more prone to making mistakes.

[Oklahoma]

Can see the point in having two defending midfielders away from home, break up play and quickly shift to counter with two quick wingers. A few problems today tough, the two def mid cant play a forward pass fast enough to save their lifes. The one that can is stuck as right wing. Shift Lee for Cairney and drop Lee for King.

I can see it too but it can only make sense if the midfielders have quality. Which they don't.

So, the first change should be Williamson or Lowe for Dunn. Dunn playing behind Gestede.

If nothing changes, around 60 min, Lowe or Williamson for Rhodes and play 4-4-2.

[Tom]

One unappreciated part of Rhodes game is his coolness from the spot, I was just thinking if we won a penalty now would you be confident of anyone despatching it?

Gestede seems to kind of striker to try and place it and make it easy for the keeper.

Right let's be fearless now and go at them

[yoda's brother]

nearly 2-2

[Majiball]

nearly 2-2

do or do not, there is no try.

[Bundesburn]

One unappreciated part of Rhodes game is his coolness from the spot, I was just thinking if we won a penalty now would you be confident of anyone despatching it?

Gestede seems to kind of striker to try and place it and make it easy for the keeper.

Right let's be fearless now and go at them

Cairney?

[Tom]

Cairney?

Going off his free kicks - over the bar

[Bundesburn]

Going off his free kicks - over the bar

Only if he's aiming for the top-corner.

[yoda's brother]

do or do not, there is no try.

shut up

[Tom]

Sounds like a couple of fans fighting between themselves - most likely handbags

[West Yorks Rover]

Wigan 2-0 down to Donny

King on for Willo, injury.

[EWOODACE1]

Thing is everyone says 2 def mids but is that what Lowe is. I rarely see him make a tackle. Teams play one twos around him with ease. He cannot pass. He doesn't contribute going forward. 1 goal and possibly no assists in his whole rovers career. Ok he runs around a lot but how does that benefit us.

At least Williamson gets stuck in. What I don't understand is why when Evans got injured bowyer decided to take cairney out of the middle as well.

[Majiball]

We are so immobile.

[G Somerset Rover]

Wigan 2-0 down to Donny

King on for Willo, injury.

Only an injury would force GB's hand. The Willowe love in is momentarily put on hold.

[Mike Graham]

Sounds like a couple of fans fighting between themselves - most likely handbags

It happened last time at Forest....that tosser from Derby was involved again on that occasion.

[Bucksrover]

Not sure I would have taken Gestede off when we need a goal.

But what do I know

[Hasta]

Rhodes on for Gestede. Gary `The Grinder` Bowyer.

[EWOODACE1]

I like how bowyer has turned us from very poor to steady. But he is so scared of trying to change it more attacking. I don't understand taking gestede off for Rhodes. Have them both on

[SoldierMo]

Lowe is a joke

[West Yorks Rover]

Rhodes on for Gest.

[Tom]

Thought Rhodes would be on for Rudy after an hour if jt was going to plan

Its not gone to plan as such so would have liked to see them together

Still Rhodes v tired defence should mean some opportunities