[Archived] Riverside 'not available for relocation' for Burnley game

[levi]

"They denied that they were putting the blame on fans from the Darwen End and are restricting match-day sales in the Riverside by refusing to sell tickets to anyone who had only been in there for Burnley last season".

the only game I was in the riverside last season was burnley,and my tickets have arrived for the riverside for this seasons?

the last 2 season tickets I've had have been darwen end too,i didn't get one this year as they've stopped the part season tickets which are best for me as I live away now

[Ben-2000]

Apologies, maybe I didn't word that too well.

As has already been said... the club claimed that many of the fans in the Riverside hadn't been seen at Ewood for years but had turned up for that game and no others. It is those that will be refused a ticket (that's not to say they won't be allowed to buy one elsewhere - say in the BBE for example).

Your situation is different. You are a regular 'walk-on' and your usual area is closed, therefore you have to go elsewhere. Of course that does contradict why DE season ticket holders cannot relocate there, but as I say the best person to answer that question was not present. I suspect it may be to try and avoid a large group standing up in one of the more central blocks.

[barry_]

"They denied that they were putting the blame on fans from the Darwen End and are restricting match-day sales in the Riverside by refusing to sell tickets to anyone who had only been in there for Burnley last season".

the only game I was in the riverside last season was burnley,and my tickets have arrived for the riverside for this seasons?

the last 2 season tickets I've had have been darwen end too,i didn't get one this year as they've stopped the part season tickets which are best for me as I live away now

That can't be as the club 'are heavily monitoring' the sales!!!

This decision by the club is pathetic.

If the stewards were actually fit for purpose then the only restrictions needed is the lower Darwen end 'ends' to be netted off.

[Mike Graham]

So much for Rovers management of the Darren End to Riverside ticket ban. Managed to get 3 this week without a challenge.

While I agree to an extent, active stewarding (poor or otherwise) is usually because fans are acting like morons. If fans knew how to behave without getting aggressive, the stewards wouldn't even be needed.

My dad recalls games vs Burnley at both grounds where you wandered amongst each other and had a laugh, not a hi-viz or bobby's hat in sight.

agree 100%

[Paul]

When this thread started I couldn't see the point of the complainers. After much debate I still don't see it.

Buy an ST in the Darwen End and you will be moved for certain games. Everyone knows that. This is just moaning for moaning's sake. Nothing new there.

As I said before, well done Ben for getting organised rather than having a good whinge.

[Parsonblue]

While I agree to an extent, active stewarding (poor or otherwise) is usually because fans are acting like morons. If fans knew how to behave without getting aggressive, the stewards wouldn't even be needed.

My dad recalls games vs Burnley at both grounds where you wandered amongst each other and had a laugh, not a hi-viz or bobby's hat in sight.

Absolutely bang on Mike. I'm old enough to remember going to the Turf with my dad and granddad and standing on the Longside with Burnley fans. There was plenty of friendly banter which is what football should be. Sadly, a section of fans from both clubs seem to want to turn it into World War Three. This has gone on from the 1970s and now we have this sad state of affairs. I remember when we went to the Turf and won and the Clarets would come to Ewood and won and yet the fans mingled without the need for a war zone presence by the Police. Neither club can be blamed for wanting to ensure the safety of fans within the ground and clearly the Rovers are acting in what they see as the best interests of the majority. Like Paul said, I really can't see the problem and Ben seems to have done his best to keep those from the Darwen End who want to be together in an area where they can.

[JAL]

Putting supporters side by side means that they cant see one another thus you wont get confrontation nor the kind of reaction that happened last season in the riverside.

[tomphil]

When this thread started I couldn't see the point of the complainers. After much debate I still don't see it.

Buy an ST in the Darwen End and you will be moved for certain games. Everyone knows that. This is just moaning for moaning's sake. Nothing new there.

As I said before, well done Ben for getting organised rather than having a good whinge.

Most don't appear to be moaning about being moved they accept that. It's the alleged conditions of that move and the fact that the home fans are taking the brunt of the blame for last seasons overblown handbags that much is quite clear.

[thenodrog]

When this thread started I couldn't see the point of the complainers. After much debate I still don't see it.

Buy an ST in the Darwen End and you will be moved for certain games. Everyone knows that. This is just moaning for moaning's sake. Nothing new there.

Exactly. Lots of mock outrage and 'nobody tells me where to sit' attitude simply because there is a once a year chance to do so. Pathetic.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

Most don't appear to be moaning about being moved they accept that. It's the alleged conditions of that move and the fact that the home fans are taking the brunt of the blame for last seasons overblown handbags that much is quite clear.

Exactly, its what it symbolises more than anything.

Its a long-running gripe of mine that at most grounds in the country, any actual or potential problems of any type result in some form of restriction or inconvenience for the away fans. Always and only the away fans. At Ewood its not and has never been the case as long as I've been going, most of the time its what can we do with the home fans to reduce the problem.

Bolton is a prime example. Their fans are trouble-making thugs responsible for 90% of confrontations when we've played at the Reebok in recent years. The solutions to this? Refuse to serve alcohol to away fans at in the ground and pen away fans in a confined area next to the train station for up to an hour until all home fans have gone. Not once have I seen home fans blocked from walking past the away entrance after the game, or their idiot section receiving any kind of police monitoring or escort.

Every other club bends over backwards for their home fans and in high-tension games treats the away fans like hooligans. Ours does nothing of the sort. Thats what this thread is about.

[OJRovers]

Prediction for 2014/15: the DE season ticket holders won't be allowed to move into either he riverside or the darwen end side of the JW stand.

[JAL]

When this thread started I couldn't see the point of the complainers. After much debate I still don't see it.

Buy an ST in the Darwen End and you will be moved for certain games. Everyone knows that. This is just moaning for moaning's sake. Nothing new there.

As I said before, well done Ben for getting organised rather than having a good whinge.

Do you want a rival to swell their support at the expense of your own especially when they are playing better than Rovers. Thats what its all about.

[Mike E]

Prediction for 2014/15: the DE season ticket holders won't be allowed to move into either he riverside or the darwen end side of the JW stand.

Assuming Burnley aren't promoted ofc.

[barry_]

When this thread started I couldn't see the point of the complainers. After much debate I still don't see it.

Buy an ST in the Darwen End and you will be moved for certain games. Everyone knows that. This is just moaning for moaning's sake. Nothing new there.

As I said before, well done Ben for getting organised rather than having a good whinge.

You say you don't see the point of the 'complainers' (that in itself says more about your attitude towards anyone who dares question anything) but you can't of grasped the point of this thread so I'll spell it out (again).

By not allowing a small section of loyal supporters to relocate to the Riverside (but allowing general sales) they are tarnishing people who have a season ticket unfairly.

Exactly. Lots of mock outrage and 'nobody tells me where to sit' attitude simply because there is a once a year chance to do so. Pathetic.

There's no mock outrage. No one has the attitude you speak of. It's simply asking why loyal supporters are being targetted by their exclusion from the Riverside.

[ABBEY]

"Loyal " supporters ? PMSL

Loyal for the past 3 years ha

[thenodrog]

Prediction for 2014/15: the DE season ticket holders won't be allowed to move into either he riverside or the darwen end side of the JW stand.

Quite right and as I suggested on here yesterday. Logical isn't it?

There's no mock outrage. No one has the attitude you speak of. It's simply asking why loyal supporters are being targetted by their exclusion from the Riverside.

The DE lot choose to watch the match from behind the goals, the club accommodates that and offers the Blackburn End yet all of a sudden the DE's want to watch from the side of the ground. Illogical and only done for one reason...... to goad, provoke and generally shitstir the opposing supporters.

[Paul]

I've just recieved my letter notifying me of relocating from the Darwen End for Burnley and i'm a bit disappointed that the option to move to the Riverside isn't avalable due to 'issues' last season.

It's as if the away fans are being looked after over and above loyal home supporters and just because the so called 'security' actually had to do something for once last season.

If there's an 'issue'  with the away fans, curtail their allocation. Do not punish home support FFS

So you agree there was a problem last season. The club is taking steps to avoid a repeat or possibly worse and you feel that's unreasonable. I think it probably says more about your attitude than the one you attribute to me.

Nothing wrong with questioning anything but in this instance, as you made clear in your opening post, there is nothing to question as there was, apparently and by your own admission, a problem last season.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

"Loyal " supporters ? PMSL

Loyal for the past 3 years ha

Eh? I'd bet at least 95% of Darwen Enders moved there from other stands, so yeah every bit as loyal as any other Rovers supporters in Ewood.

[Ben-2000]

thenodrog... people go in the Darwen End as it easy to group together and vocally back the team with the area being unreserved.

Similarly when having to relocate, such areas at the ends of the side stands are 99% empty which allows us to occupy one of them without impeading the view of others.

There is banter with the away fans which happens at every ground in the country. Its not a tennis match, the crowd (or some of it) has a bit of passion!

[Doug]

Drama queens! You'll be taking your case to the European Court by the tone of some posts. Get over yourselves, if you don't like it move your seat next season. Kean me, you'll moan about anything

[Tony Diamond Inc]

To the moaners:

If you've got a ticket, you've got a seat. it doesn't matter where!

Turn up, find your seat, support your club.

[thenodrog]

Amen to that TDI

[K-Hod]

Quite right TDI- another poster said that they were trying to group all the DE ST holders together anyway iirc?

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

To the moaners:

If you've got a ticket, you've got a seat. it doesn't matter where!

Turn up, find your seat, support your club.

The moaners, kind of ironic. The only reason I sit in the DE (hardly the most enlightened place to watch football) is because its the only area of the ground where you're not swamped with moaners and you can support your club without people turning round giving you funny looks. The DE is a singing stand, after the BE (packed for Burnley no doubt), the Riverside is the next closest thing to a stand that occasionally bothers to vocally support the team. Is it any wonder Darwen Enders would rather move there than the utterly annonymous Jack Walker Stand?

Course its easy for people who have nothing to do with the matter to say stop moaning, I just wonder why they're even bothering to comment on this thread to moan about the moaning.

[only2garners]

I'm sure there will be plenty of room if you want to sit in the Blackburn End. Ben 2000 has also sorted an area of the JW Lower if you want to sit (probably stand) with others who want to sing. I would have thought that both spots would be better than the Riverside for someone who wants to get behind the team.