[Archived] Back Or Sack?

[yoda]

Cheers yoda, the memory's not what it was.

Never give in go out to win...........never say die we know the time will come to celebrate!

For we are The Rovers...........

I liked the

na na na , nanana na, nanana na, ROVERS, Blackburn end in full swing mode

or the mighty quin song (Don Martin)

[arbitro]

Some indeed..... but more sh1t ones imo. For someone whose earliest memories were lording in in the top division watching the likes of Duggie, Fred Pick, Andy McEvoy, Mike England, Ronnie, Fergy and Keith Newton the fall was spectaculor, devastating and swift. Coming from that background the wilderness years hit hard. They were demoralising and frustrating. Only a masochist could have really enjoyed the experience.

Loved BRFc did Bill, as did Bill Bancroft and Deryck Keighley who sadly died whilst doing a sterling job as Chairman. That Blackburn End small town mentality does my bloody head in! Put admission up in line with inflation and it's like it's the end of the world and those in charge aregreed ridden racketeers.

But for me and my mates it wasn't just about the football. An away match was like going on holiday or into another world. The laughs on the coach or train, the excitement of seeing the floodlights, sometimes a police escort, trying to take the home teams end, getting a kicking, giving a kicking - it was all part of the fun. Sometimes the football and result would spoil the day but winning would give you such a buzz on enemy territory. I am proud to have supported Rovers through some dark days and if the Indians incompetence takes us back there then I will gladly do it all again.

[Mani]

Can anyone think of a current manager who has successfully made the transition from coach at the same club?

Jose Mourinho

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

 

Jose Mourinho

Also Guardiola - so basically the two best current managers in world football started as coaches - maybe there is hope after all.

[Mani]

Sack or back?

I'd back him. The key thing GB needs to bring is consistency. For my sins, through one way or the other iv actually watched Burnley play 5 times live this season...and I'm still waiting to watch them dominate a team with flowing football. Quite simply they don't. They are well drilled, all know their jobs and more importantly they've had very few injuries so the consistency is there.

IMO there has been considerable progress this season and if GB can get the likes of Hanley, Spurr, Marshall, Cairney, Evans, King, Conway Rhodes and Gestede playing regular next season I fully expect us to challenge.

Gary you've got rid of egos and high earners, you've bought well...now you have to search long and hard this summer for a large bottle of consistency (and pray for no or few injuries)

[McClarky]

Does he bring consistency? I'm not particularly anti Bowyer but one thing I would say about him is thatt all season he has never given the impression that he knows what his best 11 is or what his favoured formation is. Injuries are a factor in that but I often think selections are quite random and signings have been completely random and ill thought out in many cases. 19 signings in a season isn't going to bring consistency or stability on the pitch.

[barry_]

Bowyer has consistently played Lowe/Williamson.

He's consistently played Cairney out of position.

He's consistently employed negative tactics, which have cost us points/games (a classic example was Williamson brought on against Bournemouth when we were 1 down)

We all want the team to do as well as possible, and Bowyer has done 'okay' but we just don't have the luxury of being average.

[K-Hod]

Bowyer has consistently played Lowe/Williamson.

He's consistently played Cairney out of position.

He's consistently employed negative tactics, which have cost us points/games (a classic example was Williamson brought on against Bournemouth when we were 1 down)

We all want the team to do as well as possible, and Bowyer has done 'okay' but we just don't have the luxury of being average.

But it's alright, we've got 'stability'.......

[tomphil]

The things mentioned about Burnley being well drilled are the things missing from us and I just don't think Bowyer is or will be that kind of manager. We've seen often enough the style of play he's trying to coach, sit deep and hopefully stop their players and supply lines on the edge of our box then give the ball to our wingers/creative players and attack. that's it in a nutshell. To get the players well drilled you have to hammer the same things into them day in day out on the training ground and you won't always be popular, again just can't see him doing that. Hughes had us well drilled, big Sam had us drilled on attacking from set pieces and percentage football, different standard of players I know. One thing in common with the likes of Dysche though is they were all organised strong minded leaders. They know first choice 11 and how they want to play.

[JAL]

Sack or back?

I'd back him. The key thing GB needs to bring is consistency. For my sins, through one way or the other iv actually watched Burnley play 5 times live this season...and I'm still waiting to watch them dominate a team with flowing football. Quite simply they don't. They are well drilled, all know their jobs and more importantly they've had very few injuries so the consistency is there.

IMO there has been considerable progress this season and if GB can get the likes of Hanley, Spurr, Marshall, Cairney, Evans, King, Conway Rhodes and Gestede playing regular next season I fully expect us to challenge.

Gary you've got rid of egos and high earners, you've bought well...now you have to search long and hard this summer for a large bottle of consistency (and pray for no or few injuries)

Progress ?

Where ?

This second half of the season has been a massive let down demonstrated by an extremely poor last twenty minutes against a workman like Burnley.

If ego's score goals that win games then i'm definitely with the ego's.

[yoda's brother]

Sack or back?

I'd back him. The key thing GB needs to bring is consistency. For my sins, through one way or the other iv actually watched Burnley play 5 times live this season...and I'm still waiting to watch them dominate a team with flowing football. Quite simply they don't. They are well drilled, all know their jobs and more importantly they've had very few injuries so the consistency is there.

IMO there has been considerable progress this season and if GB can get the likes of Hanley, Spurr, Marshall, Cairney, Evans, King, Conway Rhodes and Gestede playing regular next season I fully expect us to challenge.

Gary you've got rid of egos and high earners, you've bought well...now you have to search long and hard this summer for a large bottle of consistency (and pray for no or few injuries)

apart from the ones who will be back at the end of the season. (and the odd one or 2 still here)

[Atomicrover]

Consistency is the new stability

[Majiball]

Jose Mourinho

No he didn't. He was an assistant at porto, then left and came back as the manager he has never done the transition direct.

  Also Guardiola - so basically the two best current managers in world football started as coaches - maybe there is hope after all.

Barcelona B team is another professional team playing in the segunda division. It's like our ressies playing in league one, so he had experience before he took the reigns of the main team at Barca.

[USABlue]

I hate this argument. Murphy (and countless others) where paid off by Venkys without Bowyer doing anything. Pedersen (and Givet) were let go with massive pay offs. None of this was Bowyers doing, and Bowyer still got a decent budget. Murphy and co had no impact at all.

Regarding Best, Etuhu and Campbell. Bowyer has had the freedom to totally isolate and ignore them. In my opinion, he has handled Best terribly when we could have done with him as a sub. Regarding Etuhu, we have a midfielder on our books on 30k+. Despite this, Bowyer has had the freedom to sign Evans, Cairney, Marrow and Dabo, and we already had Williamson and Lowe. So he has had no impact whatsoever.

How on earth can you say Bowyet had nothing to do with Murphy et al leaving. Thats a far reach and sounds like an opinion you are using simply to take any credit away from GB. Do you suppose the loons called GB and said he we are going to pay off these losers, no way. If Bowyer did not want them out theyd still be here.

[roversfan99]

They had barely been playing last season towards the end.

Even if he did have something to do with it, it will have been seeing the obvious, simply asking and Venkys shelling out millions to do so.

A luxury available to Bowyer.

[Husky]

But it's alright, we've got 'stability'.......

Too right and as long as we've got that it doesn't even matter if we get relegated again or go into administration, or even spontaneously combust.

[OJRovers]

Sounds like a decent performance in the 2nd half today, good result with all the injuries. Hopefully we'll have a strong finish to the season. I'm judging him after the Bournemouth game too so w1 d1 with a good performance against top of the league.

[gumboots]

It's the first time in ages I've heard people around me being positive about the team. Even heard well played lads from the guys behind me who in previous games had been very harsh in their criticism.

[Proudtobeblue&white]

Two away games now before Brighton at home - just hope we put in a shift in those and at least end the season on a high. PO's a no no, but the small shoots are starting to appear. Lowe at RB, Tom C back, King with pace, perhaps we have the makings of a team to challenge.

Just leaves the X factor......what are the Loons going to do without promotion, buy Dingles perhaps?

[Lancs Rover]

Back or Sack?

Or, as Dilbert might say...

[JAL]

Twelve months on Rovers are rooted... mid table .......going nowhere. So the signings made over the past twelve months must be judged as unsatisfactory.

The best players at Rovers for me are the ones that were here before Venkys and their associates arrived in Robinson and Grant Hanley

[yoda]

Twelve months on Rovers are rooted... mid table .......going nowhere. So the signings made over the past twelve months must be judged as unsatisfactory.

The best players at Rovers for me are the ones that were here before Venkys and their associates arrived in Robinson and Grant Hanley

Thats stability for you

[thenodrog]

Twelve months on Rovers are rooted... mid table .......going nowhere. So the signings made over the past twelve months must be judged as unsatisfactory.

Unsatisfactory? There is a justifiable argument that that represents a resounding success given the conditions that existed last year and the relentless injury situation that has figured massively this year. No idea about Leicester's injury list but Saturdays team was without our Captain and 1st choice CH, plus Cairney, Lowe and Marshall with long term absentees King and Dunn only figuring on the bench. You know that but you are nor giving it any consideration.

[Roverthechimp]

What was the average wage of our players 12 months ago...?

Have the players we have signed increased or decreased in value over the 12 months and would we need to pay them upwards of 1 million for every season left on their contracts just to feck off?

Robinson and Hanley are midtable premier League players and i suspect 2 of our biggest earners - of course they are amongst the best players we have but i would take this years team and situation over last years any day of the week. Of course i would have fired the special one long Before he inflicted Championship football on us and not trusted a certain agent but that doesn't stop me from seeing some encouraging signs in the squad.

[Parsonblue]

Twelve months on Rovers are rooted... mid table .......going nowhere. So the signings made over the past twelve months must be judged as unsatisfactory.

The best players at Rovers for me are the ones that were here before Venkys and their associates arrived in Robinson and Grant Hanley

Mid table shows we are progressing, slowly perhaps, but it is progression. Rome wasn't built in a day. Remember, after 1966 it took 25 years to return to the top flight. A little patience is required - something which the modern fan seems to lack and requires instant success yesterday.