[Archived] Rovers V Brighton

[McClarky]

Just saw the goals, terrible defending. You have to be far tighter than we were when crosses are coming in. Basic defending really but very poor.

[jim mk2]

Just seen the goals; poor defending and you cannot expect to win matches playing like that. We're such a soft touch. Scott Dann was a loss.

[Doug]

what positive signs doug? that we cant defend a lead? no tactical nous? a useless manager? rely on one player to score the goals?

I said positives with our young team and they are cairney, Conway, Evans, Rudy king, Hanley, Lowe, All young players, who I think will be even better next season. I have always voiced my concerns with our full backs as they are very weak imo.

[roverandout]

agree with some good young players, don't agree on lowe though, need a manager to meld them into a proper team

[Neal]

Till Xmas time and if we aren't challenging then fair enough, I might start blaming him for everything as a few on here do.

Thanks for the response.

That long? I could understand the first 10 games but half a season?

[Paul]

Roll on the end of this season and I can forget all about football.

It is, I have.

Went on the club training ride, 31miles at average of 16.2mph and managed to hang on to the guys topping 21 for nearly four miles. Very pleased.

Two hours on a bike is a lot more fun than two hours at Ewood.

The season was over at Christmas and as I said then Bowyer is not the man to take Rovers up. Every match I've seen since proves it again, and again.

Not sure if we will bother again this season unless the weather is truly crap. People have choices and take them.

[No Nay Never]

Thanks for the response.

That long? I could understand the first 10 games but half a season?

For me the league doesn't settle down and start to fall into place till late November/December.

[chaddyrovers]

Genuine question to any in support of Bowyer...

How much more time do you think he should get?

I would give him to Christmas and if we NOT are in top 6 or close to it then get rid.

back to tonight game.

thought Conway and Evans very good. Cairney was good and glad to have him back,

Robinson has to go at the end of the season. at fault for first 2 goals and Hanley the 3rd. would like an experience keeper in this summer.

we lost the midfield when Evans went off injured.

felt Gestede should have come on for Dunn when he went off looking shattered and tired after 60 mins or so.

I thought our attacking play was good and improving

[Neal]

For me the league doesn't settle down and start to fall into place till late November/December.

Fair point.

Wouldn't you say a continuation of this sort of form would be too detrimental to the rest of the season? Personally I think it's massively important that we start in the right way and a poor start would lead to another season of planning for next season...

[jim mk2]

It is, I have.

Went on the club training ride, 31miles at average of 16.2mph and managed to hang on to the guys topping 21 for nearly four miles. Very pleased.

Two hours on a bike is a lot more fun than two hours at Ewood.

The season was over at Christmas and as I said then Bowyer is not the man to take Rovers up. Every match I've seen since proves it again, and again.

Not sure if we will bother again this season unless the weather is truly crap. People have choices and take them.

Supporter in the good times; disappears in the bad times. With "fans" like this.....

[Darwen Rover 007]

I agree re how much if an issue it was once Evans had gone off.. Perhaps we would have been better off putting cairney and Taylor in cm with Williston behind them in front of defence?? Instead of playing cairney in the Dunn role??

[Paul]

 

 

Supporter in the good times; disappears in the bad times. With "fans" like this.....

Absolute total nonsense.

[Proudtobeblue&white]

Reading the above, I disagree about Williamson, I'm not a fan but I thought he battled well after a shaky start. I thought Evans was quiet. TC is class, and scored a beauty with his wrong foot. Spurr is non-stop, I think he's v good at this level. I thought Dunny was the weak link tonight, did very little, and I wanted Rudy on for him at 60 mins. As per we seemed to be settling for 2-1, and we not equipped yet as a team to do that. We are shipping far too many goals.

So we concede to 2-2, get the lifeline of the penalty, and then throw it away......I'm still of the opinion GB is caught in the headlights too often. We needed to kick on at 2-1, and Rudy was the answer, not with two mins of normal time remaining.

It would be quite nice to win at least one of our next two home games?

[No Nay Never]

Fair point.

Wouldn't you say a continuation of this sort of form would be too detrimental to the rest of the season? Personally I think it's massively important that we start in the right way and a poor start would lead to another season of planning for next season...

Whilst I agree that the form is poor, the performances haven't been too bad, just seem to have gone from one extreme to the other in terms of not being able to score goals but being relatively tight at the back and now scoring but being poor at the back. Obviously if we don't pick up a few more points this season and lose the first 4/5 games of next season then questions will rightly be asked. All down to what he does in the summer and to be fair he hasn't done to bad in the market thus far.

[Parsonblue]

Thought it was a fairly entertaining game tonight with both sides having spells on top. However both sides have major defensive weaknesses which is why they will both be playing Championship football next season. Once again, Rovers made too many defensive errors which undermined the good work going forward. Conway again caught the eye going forward and Rovers second goal was particularly well worked. Not the result we wanted but an entertaining game of football nonetheless for an end of season affair. The injury to Evans proved something of a turning point for me. I thought Evans and Williamson were doing OK in midfield but Taylor looks a poor player. Williamson was the one player prepared to put the foot in and win the ball but tired towards the end, particularly after Evans went off.

Personally, I feel we need an experienced centre-half who can dominate in the air and organize those around him. Our defence is crying out for a John McNamee type who will stamp his authority on both the opposition and his fellow defenders. Hanley, once again, was all over the place and far too rash with some of his challenges. I would like to see us try to get Keane on a season long loan and maybe cash in on Hanley.

[den]

All down to what he does in the summer and to be fair he hasn't done to bad in the market thus far.

Well if he's done well in the transfer market he must be a crap manager. Why else are we so hopeless?

[No Nay Never]

Well if he's done well in the transfer market he must be a crap manager. Why else are we so hopeless?

Are we so hopeless or is it doom and gloom merchants?

Killgallon

Cairney

Evans

Conway

Marshall

all good signings in my opinion.

Rudy

Spurr

decent championship players

judge

taylor

marrow

squad players at best.

[den]

Are we so hopeless or is it doom and gloom merchants?

Killgallon

Cairney

Evans

Conway

Marshall

all good signings in my opinion.

Rudy

Spurr

decent championship players

judge

taylor

marrow

squad players at best.

We've got either a good manager and poor squad, or poor manager and good squad. It certainly isn't both. Either way, bowyer loses.

[Proudtobeblue&white]

Thought it was a fairly entertaining game tonight with both sides having spells on top. However both sides have major defensive weaknesses which is why they will both be playing Championship football next season. Once again, Rovers made too many defensive errors which undermined the good work going forward. Conway again caught the eye going forward and Rovers second goal was particularly well worked. Not the result we wanted but an entertaining game of football nonetheless for an end of season affair. The injury to Evans proved something of a turning point for me. I thought Evans and Williamson were doing OK in midfield but Taylor looks a poor player. Williamson was the one player prepared to put the foot in and win the ball but tired towards the end, particularly after Evans went off.

Personally, I feel we need an experienced centre-half who can dominate in the air and organize those around him. Our defence is crying out for a John McNamee type who will stamp his authority on both the opposition and his fellow defenders. Hanley, once again, was all over the place and far too rash with some of his challenges. I would like to see us try to get Keane on a season long loan and maybe cash in on Hanley.

Parson, I do think Hanley has issues, I do like Kilgallon, and Keane is CB not a RB. Evans, Cairney, Conway, Spurr, and Robbo (despite his problems tonight) are good. Still think GB has sub issues. I wanted Rudy on so much earlier to worry their defence, Dunny was poor tonight

[No Nay Never]

We've got either a good manager and poor squad, or poor manager and good squad. It certainly isn't both. Either way, bowyer loses.

I just see it as a lot of damage has been done in the last few years, Bowyer kept a poor side up last year and has improved us this season. Was never going to be fixed over such a short period.

[JAL]

Thought it was a fairly entertaining game tonight with both sides having spells on top. However both sides have major defensive weaknesses which is why they will both be playing Championship football next season. Once again, Rovers made too many defensive errors which undermined the good work going forward. Conway again caught the eye going forward and Rovers second goal was particularly well worked. Not the result we wanted but an entertaining game of football nonetheless for an end of season affair. The injury to Evans proved something of a turning point for me. I thought Evans and Williamson were doing OK in midfield but Taylor looks a poor player. Williamson was the one player prepared to put the foot in and win the ball but tired towards the end, particularly after Evans went off.

Personally, I feel we need an experienced centre-half who can dominate in the air and organize those around him. Our defence is crying out for a John McNamee type who will stamp his authority on both the opposition and his fellow defenders. Hanley, once again, was all over the place and far too rash with some of his challenges. I would like to see us try to get Keane on a season long loan and maybe cash in on Hanley.

Cash in on Hanley FFS ! Hanley needs an experienced lad along side him not rookies like Killgallon and Keane.

[Parsonblue]

Cash in on Hanley FFS ! Hanley needs an experienced lad along side him not rookies like Killgallon and Keane.

Hanley is an accident waiting to happen. The lad still makes the same errors that he did in the Academy.

[JAL]

Hanley is an accident waiting to happen. The lad still makes the same errors that he did in the Academy.

That why he needs the experienced old head alongside him. Colin Hendry made horrendous mistakes in his early years until Kevin Moran and Ray Harford came along .

[thenodrog]

Thoughts about tonight..

Robinson beaten on the near post for the first is not good enough.

Robinson attempting an amateurish double handed punch from a corner gave away the next corner from which they scored their second. He then in tru GK fashion had a right old go at one or more of his defenders. He needs to look in a mirror for the culprit. Of late he has taken to that crappy 'double handed punch' option far too often. A quality keeper of his standing should have caught that ball easily.

That Lingard has some quality. On loan from MU I believe.

Ince reminded me of Ivan Campo the way he bossed deep midfield for Brighton. I think if he had stayed on for the first 20 of the 2nd half would no way have seen as much BRFC dominance.

Overall a quite enjoyable game that we should have won but spewed cos of poor finishing in the first 30 of the 2nd half.

[Neal]

Whilst I agree that the form is poor, the performances haven't been too bad, just seem to have gone from one extreme to the other in terms of not being able to score goals but being relatively tight at the back and now scoring but being poor at the back. Obviously if we don't pick up a few more points this season and lose the first 4/5 games of next season then questions will rightly be asked. All down to what he does in the summer and to be fair he hasn't done to bad in the market thus far.

I'm not so sure, apparently we were poor against Millwall.

I've never doubted that he's done well in the market but I just don't think he's got the personality to put it all together. The way he comes across is just so uninspiring. If the fans find him uninspiring then god knows how the players find him. I'm not saying here that the players aren't playing for him, what I'm saying is I just don't think he's the type of manager that inspires you to do more. I suppose what the bottom line is... The fella is a coach, nothing more.

In some ways he reminds me of Nigel Clough at Derby. He put together a squad of young talent but they we mid table, inconsistent and he was never inspiring enough to make it work... He even sounds like him (*snore).