[Archived] Is Bowyer Right To Have A Go At Fans ?

[tomphil]

A pretty fair observation tomphil. The crowd were definitely aware of the other results and what one goal would have meant.

I'm a bit surprised Sky Sports picked up on it.

Just going off what my pal said. He mentioned it without any prompting whilst calling us draw specialists and going on about the fact he had it down as a banker draw on his betting slip. I thought we were behind the team quite well early in the 2nd half. Any remote mention on SSN then it must have been earned lol

[dingles staying down 4ever]

The time to worry is if he starts complaining about the lack of dew on the pitch, if he comes out with something absurd as that (easily one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard from a manager) then fans have to be worried.

He had that excuse removed yesterday when they watered the pitch at half time!

[Neal]

Just going off what my pal said. He mentioned it without any prompting whilst calling us draw specialists and going on about the fact he had it down as a banker draw on his betting slip. I thought we were behind the team quite well early in the 2nd half. Any remote mention on SSN then it must have been earned lol

On 70 minutes when Lowe was taking a throw in, a load of us ran down to the front of the walkersteel shouting "they're all getting beat!"... He defintely heard us, he was about a foot away... I recon Cairney and another player heard aswell.

[Stuart]

Bit strange how just when we've looked like making the top 6 this season, we have bottled it. Friday wasn't the first time.

[Neal]

Bit strange how just when we've looked like making the top 6 this season, we have bottled it. Friday wasn't the first time.

And it won't be the last whilst Gaz is here I fear.

[dingles staying down 4ever]

Bit strange how just when we've looked like making the top 6 this season, we have bottled it. Friday wasn't the first time.

At least its stability so mission accomplished!

[BRFC4EVA]

Bit strange how just when we've looked like making the top 6 this season, we have bottled it. Friday wasn't the first time.

That's why I dont understand how Bowyer can possibly have a go at the fans. We have been ridiculously understanding and supportive of the team (not just this season, but in previous as well)-However, Good Fri was simply a step too far. We have had opportunities bordering on the double figures to make it into the playoff positions and each time we have failed to take the chance. To see another wonderful opportunity (we merely had to hold onto a lead for 30secs v Wednesday and score one measly goal at home to relegation fodder) go begging was hard to watch!!

[thenodrog]

That's why I dont understand how Bowyer can possibly have a go at the fans.

'The fans'? He was only having a go (and a mild one at that) at the boo boys surely?

[Stuart]

'The fans'? He was only having a go (and a mild one at that) at the boo boys surely?

I must have missed the interview where he clarified that he was aiming his frustration at a tiny minority of supporters.

[ABBEY]

His interview was aimed at any fan who isn't positive .

[gumboots]

I missed the interview but I wasn't impressed with the boos either. They started early in the match and never really went away. I know when Kean was here people booed and it was largely deserved. However, this is a team that were as frustrated as we were that they couldn't get a result and knew they'd blown it. It wasn't really that they weren't trying or were going through the motions. It just genuinely is that, for whatever reason, they haven't achieved the consistent level that the top few teams have. I'm not a bowyer fan but nor do I see the point in sacking him. You can talk all you want about managers who, given our facilities etc, would come here. They might, but they almost certainly wouldn't be asked.

For all the talk of bowyer being too nice and pally with the players, it would appear that the tv persona, mr boring wouldn't say boo to a goose, is not the real mr bowyer and away from the tv cameras he's much more incisive and impressive than when the spotlight is on him. If you could guarantee we'd get one of the top guys you all go on about or even one of the lower level but with a good track record ones, I'd possibly go for moving bowyer to another position or even possibly getting rid, but it wouldn't happen, because venkys don't understand what the difference is between a football manager and a factory manager and we'd likely get no better, and probably worse.

[Stuart]

Another damning of Bowyer without even feint praise.

[gumboots]

Wasn't meant to be Stuart. For my money he's better than most of you give him credit for and the inconsistency is not all him but a bunch of young lads who are still learning along with him. I didn't like the atmosphere at Fridays match. I don't like the atmosphere at ewood generally, but I really dislike fans booing their team. It's a sad fact of modern life that people choose to boo very readily at football matches nowadays. It's something I've never done and really find repulsive. I understand the frustration. I came out of the ground on Friday wanting to kick something and it's probably a good job there were no cats in the immediate vicinity, but I do t have it in me to boo my team.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

The booing was about letting the team know that the lack of effort,guile and craft was simply not acceptable against the bottom side.We're better than Friday and most knew it...I fully understood the reaction.

It's the fans only outlet for letting the team know it's damn well not good enough.Rovers fans have been great this season but the team is about to let us all down...the frustration is at breaking point.

[gumboots]

I understand the frustration that makes people boo. All I'm saying is that I don't like the action. And I don't think they weren't trying. I think they were every bit as frustrated as the fans. It's noticeable that many of our more creative matches in terms of goals scored have been away from ewood, where the players haven't had the weight of expectation on their shoulders. ( having said that there have been matches away where we've been abject). Not being able to come up to expectations is something that can be overcome with age and experience. I really think much of our lads inconsistency is to do with their age and I don't see how having a go at them helps that at all. Bowyer was wrong to have a go at fans if he did so, but that doesn't mean that booing is right or helpful.

[ABBEY]

No ifs mum he did 100%

[Riverside67]

Gumboots you are too forgiving.

It was the club and players and manager who all set the expectation of the push for promotion. To say they were happy to settle for a point at home to the bottom team was unacceptable.

I agree you don't boo during a game but by all means let them know at the end.

GB cannot be above criticism. I hope that does not mean he excuses players for unacceptable efforts by being so sensitive. . He was the one who made the comment he was furious to the LT this week,

Sound and Fury that signifies nothing it would appear as it had no effect on firing up the players.

[gumboots]

No ifs mum he did 100%

Only meant I hadn't heard it.

[gumboots]

I'm not forgiving anything. What are they meant to say? Join the push for mid table? It's all about messing it up just when you think were about to get into the top 6? Of course not. And I don't doubt he was furious after the Sheffield wed game and I've no doubt he told them in no uncertain terms. The fact that they didn't win on Saturday seemed to me to frustrate them every bit as much as it did us. There is no doubt they wanted to. For whatever reason it didn't happen. I still don't see how booing makes anything better. The blame for what is wrong at our club lies with our owners, those who've make money on the back of their ignorance and stupidity, those who've gone now. Bowyer may not be the perfect manager but he's trying and I think he deserves a bit more respect for the things he has got right so far. That's not to say he can't be criticised - I've done so often enough myself - but I still think we need to be very careful what we wish for because from where I stand I can't see knights in shining armour falling over themselves to rescue us from venkys and all the havoc they have wreaked on our club.

[JAL]

If Bowyer is seen to be having a go at the fans then all one can say to Gary is dont muck up, build up some brownie points because they wont forgive you otherwise.

[Proudtobeblue&white]

I'm not a booer, but as has been said many times, we are Rovers fans, and we have sat, (stood), stayed away, protested, left in droves & more over the last three years.

GB might have acknowledged that as fee paying customers, just as in any type of entertainment, we shout & cheer in the good times, but when we are served the dross that occurred Friday, a proportion of the crowd will vent their views. He can ill afford to upset us......we are a depleting resource.

[JAL]

I'm not a booer, but as has been said many times, we are Rovers fans, and we have sat, (stood), stayed away, protested, left in droves & more over the last three years.

GB might have acknowledged that as fee paying customers, just as in any type of entertainment, we shout & cheer in the good times, but when we are served the dross that occurred Friday, a proportion of the crowd will vent their views. He can ill afford to upset us......we are a depleting resource.

Bowyers cant forget that he has a monkey on his back by losing at home to Burnley.

[Proudtobeblue&white]

I made the point in the back or sack thread - he has a results based job, the gaffer, he stands by results. Frankly, Friday was not good. He set up the team. A win would have put us in the mix. We didn't win, not the fans fault I'm afraid!

[thenodrog]

Wasn't meant to be Stuart. For my money he's better than most of you give him credit for and the inconsistency is not all him but a bunch of young lads who are still learning along with him. I didn't like the atmosphere at Fridays match. I don't like the atmosphere at ewood generally, but I really dislike fans booing their team. It's a sad fact of modern life that people choose to boo very readily at football matches nowadays. It's something I've never done and really find repulsive. I understand the frustration. I came out of the ground on Friday wanting to kick something and it's probably a good job there were no cats in the immediate vicinity, but I do t have it in me to boo my team.

I think booing is quite acceptable for a poor performance but after the ht and ft whistles.

I'm not forgiving anything. What are they meant to say? Join the push for mid table?

Quite right. There aren't half some precious souls on here.

[Mike Graham]

The booing was after the final whistle.

It was justified. We were garbage. The first save of the game was after 84 minutes.

I am worried for the future. Venkys will only take the Club further downwards. GB is not the man for the job and only the blinkered continue to follow him, he reminds me of Ed Milliband......dead boring and a looser.