[Archived] Liverpool Away

[ABBEY]

the mrs does and she gets too much time off

[thenodrog]

All sorts of variables....

Presume we will have to give them the DE, so 7,000 Scousers.

Price.....should hopefully keep it real, £20-25 adult.

Is it not half-term, so kids for a quid?

I think with sensible pricing, 25,000, but of course we'll be on TV, so could be less.....

And just when do you think the club will be able to make some money? It's a home replay in the FA cup quarter finals v the mighty Liverpool and not some Manx Cup jolly for goodness sakes!

[Proudtobeblue&white]

It's not half term. It's Easter hols - end of the spring term. Sorry. The pedant in me as a teacher coming out

I meant school hols, sorry I wasn't precise, I like your posts, as a fellow Clitheronian.

And just when do you think the club will be able to make some money? It's a home replay in the FA cup quarter finals v the mighty Liverpool and not some Manx Cup jolly for goodness sakes!

So your pricing policy is?

[thenodrog]

The going rate for such fixtures and no kids for a quid. Why be so eager to devalue the product? If we can't drum up sufficient interest we don't deserve to progress.

btw been to Edinburgh and got talking to a Brighton supporter in the hotel bar whilst watching MU v Arsenal. He told me that he has until next Thursday to renew his 2015/2016 ST (cheapest ST is £465) or else they will go on general sale! They reckon in excess of 23000 ST's sold every year. I don't know how they do it but they put us to shame. I know we are a depressed Northern town but by the same token the cost of housing and living is much less. The old saying 'no such thing as a free lunch' surely has some relevence?

[Proudtobeblue&white]

The going rate for such fixtures and no kids for a quid. Why be so eager to devalue the product? If we can't drum up sufficient interest we don't deserve to progress.

btw been to Edinburgh and got talking to a Brighton supporter in the hotel bar whilst watching MU v Arsenal. He told me that he has until next Thursday to renew his 2015/2016 ST (cheapest ST is £465) or else they will go on general sale! They reckon in excess of 23000 ST's sold every year. I don't know how they do it but they put us to shame. I know we are a depressed Northern town but by the same token the cost of housing and living is much less. The old saying 'no such thing as a free lunch' surely has some relevence?

I'm not doing anything other than supporting the team. Only one family in India has devalued our club, stroke team, so are you saying £30 per ticket, most stayaways just watch at home?

[thenodrog]

I'm saying that if 'supporters' will do that at this stage then the club is just flogging a dead horse.

tbh I think it is and has been for some time.

[tomphil]

Probably be normal league match pricing and that's probably fair enough. Not cheap but cheaper than at their place. Would be nice if they did some kind of deal to fill the riverside though. I just want to see the place rocking. That'll help the team and maybe the club in the long run more than any extra few bob from this match itself if we pull it off !

[Proudtobeblue&white]

My point is that we need to fill the stadium. They will have 7,000 In the DE.

The club should make sure we fill the rest. That will ensure a great atmosphere. No second chance, one team wins on the night - make it a full Ewood - prices for home fans should be cheap - the semi is the prize?

[tomphil]

My point is that we need to fill the stadium. They will have 7,000 In the DE.

The club should make sure we fill the rest. That will ensure a great atmosphere. No second chance, one team wins on the night - make it a full Ewood - prices for home fans should be cheap - the semi is the prize?

Agree. I know it was a while back and the club is operating under completely different constraints but I seem to remember it being quite cheap for the league cup semi against Sheff Weds. About 20k home fans on then, sadly the only way to guarantee filling up a ground in this part of the world is by making it affordable to ALL the community. It's the way it's always been and there is no point anyone pretending otherwise. I hope they read this.

[West Yorks Rover]

The going rate for such fixtures and no kids for a quid. Why be so eager to devalue the product? If we can't drum up sufficient interest we don't deserve to progress.

btw been to Edinburgh and got talking to a Brighton supporter in the hotel bar whilst watching MU v Arsenal. He told me that he has until next Thursday to renew his 2015/2016 ST (cheapest ST is £465) or else they will go on general sale! They reckon in excess of 23000 ST's sold every year. I don't know how they do it but they put us to shame. I know we are a depressed Northern town but by the same token the cost of housing and living is much less. The old saying 'no such thing as a free lunch' surely has some relevence?

Come on Gordon !

You can't compare Rovers to Brighton much bigger population and apart from the mighty Crawley, they have the whole of West Sussex to go at,

in that respect they are rather like Norwich, I also heard a Brighton fan on the radio say that there were 10k empty seats for a recent game, although

the official figure was given as 26k+. stadium capacity is 30,750, we've heard that one before.

Oh and before you say it, that's 140 years too late........

[tomphil]

There's the novelty factor at Brighton as well with a guy pumping money in and them being in a shiny new stadium and playing at a good level again after years in the doldrums. I also heard them saying their crowds are massively overstated this season. Apparently also train loads coming down from the big smoke on matchdays. Factor in they also have a certain appeal to a certain section of the population down south and are said communities adopted team

Incomparable to Blackburn and the Rovers in just about every way !

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

Come on Gordon !

You can't compare Rovers to Brighton much bigger population and apart from the mighty Crawley, they have the whole of West Sussex to go at,

in that respect they are rather like Norwich, I also heard a Brighton fan on the radio say that there were 10k empty seats for a recent game, although

the official figure was given as 26k+. stadium capacity is 30,750, we've heard that one before.

Oh and before you say it, that's 140 years too late........

As above. Brighton isn't a fair comparison. Their catchment area stretches from Portsmouth to Kent and South London. They sold out the Amex for the first year or two but the novelty is wearing off this season with the team doing badly, not to mention the farcical transport links. The potential is there. They'd easily get 35k+ if they reached the prem.

I'd like to think we'd get close to a full house for this. Surely we could get over 25k considering they'll bring 7k. I know its a week night and on TV, but I can't see us playing a bigger one off game for a while, not to mention against so called 'glamour' opposition. One stop from Wembley. Venkys or no Venky's, this is not the time to stay away!

[gumboots]

But I'm in France on holiday! May I be excused please

[Paul]

Source UK census 2011 shows the Brighton population as 86% greater than Blackburn:

Brighton and Hove population 273,400 (the largest in the South East

Blackburn with Darwen 147,500

The Brighton metropolitan area includes 769,000 people with Blackburn/Burnley metro area coming in at 391,000 - 125,000 of those are unlikely to set foot in Ewood!!!

Overall I feel Rovers pricing strategy while probably right for the area at the time has become a millstone around our neck. It's very hard to see prices rising to match the norm - whether that norm is reasonable or not.

As for the Liverpool gate? Sadly I think anything over £20 will be a barrier for any fan who doesn't usually attend. Officially Stoke was 14,000 with 4,000 from Stoke. Personally I don't think there were 10k Rovers in the ground that day. To get a 25,000+ gate which people are suggesting means, in round figures, doubling the Stoke attend. I can't see that happening but I hope I'm wrong.

Rovers need to get this right. 7/8k Liverpool fans is a given. The question is do we want 20k Rovers at £10-15 or 10-12k at £20-25? In relation to our running costs and debt the difference in income is relatively meaningless.

The Swansea, Stoke and Liverpool games have been something of a reward for sticking at it. A glimmer in a dark sky. Against Stoke and Liverpool we had our best time following Rovers for ages. It was exciting. The replay is a great opportunity to remind lost fans just how good it feels.

Let's hope the club understand this rather than looking to milk an extra £200k or so out of it.

Stuart made a comment about how easy it is to get the bug when you watch a game like Sunday's. That's the opportunity.

[tonyoz]

FA Cup Trivia Quiz
(Data from whoscored.com)

1. Currently, which 2 former Rovers lead this year’s FA Cup goalscorer table (5 goals each)?
2. Two current Rovers are also in the top 10 goalscorer list. Who?
Liverpool game:
3. Who was man of the Match against Liverpool?
4. In fact all the top 4 players were from the Rovers. Who were the other 3?
5. Liverpool had 22 shots on goal. How many did we have?
6. Which other Lancashire team obtained a 0-0 draw at Anfield in this year’s FA Cup?
7. Who made more tackles than anyone else on the pitch?
8. Liverpool’s average passing success rate was 86% and ours was 70% but which Rover had a success rate of 89%?
9. Johnson had 101 touches in the game. Which player had the highest for Rovers with 59?
10.Who made more than twice as many clearances (12 in all) as anyone else on the Rovers side?

Answers
1. Stead (Bradford) and Gallagher (PNE), 2. Taylor and King (3 each), 3. MK (8.1), 4. SE 7.9, MO 7.4, AB (7.4), 5. 4, 6. Bolton, 7. Conway (5), 8. MK (a bit of a cheat really as he only made 9 passes all game!), 9. TC, 10. MK.

[arbitro]

The going rate for such fixtures and no kids for a quid. Why be so eager to devalue the product? If we can't drum up sufficient interest we don't deserve to progress.

btw been to Edinburgh and got talking to a Brighton supporter in the hotel bar whilst watching MU v Arsenal. He told me that he has until next Thursday to renew his 2015/2016 ST (cheapest ST is £465) or else they will go on general sale! They reckon in excess of 23000 ST's sold every year. I don't know how they do it but they put us to shame. I know we are a depressed Northern town but by the same token the cost of housing and living is much less. The old saying 'no such thing as a free lunch' surely has some relevence?

Did he mention the Archer years? He was the owner who tried to asset strip the club and thousands of fans boycotted due to his ownership. There were protests at most games and a hostile atmosphere. Does this sound familiar? They had salvation through Dick Knight and despite years in the wilderness at the awful Withdean Stadium they bounced back essentially through sound and astute management.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

everyone is under pressure at work to be fair...i deserve more time off too.

I used to work in heavy engineering, a real pressure job where results meant being in or out of a job. I'm a CDT technician in a school now and I wouldn't have a teachers job for a gold clock. Have you any idea how stressful it is fronting up 20 yr 11 lads in the workshop when about 15 of them don't actually want to be there ?

[Rover_Shaun]

But I'm in France on holiday! May I be excused please

The life of a Teacher eh?

[thenodrog]

Did he mention the Archer years? He was the owner who tried to asset strip the club and thousands of fans boycotted due to his ownership. There were protests at most games and a hostile atmosphere. Does this sound familiar? They had salvation through Dick Knight and despite years in the wilderness at the awful Withdean Stadium they bounced back essentially through sound and astute management.

No I did. I rem Bill Archer lived near Mellor (Barker Lane I think) and coaches full of Brighton fans arrived at his house one night to protest after an away fixture at Burnley.

[thenodrog]

I used to work in heavy engineering, a real pressure job where results meant being in or out of a job. I'm a CDT technician in a school now and I wouldn't have a teachers job for a gold clock. Have you any idea how stressful it is fronting up 20 yr 11 lads in the workshop when about 15 of them don't actually want to be there ?

They are only juniors so imo thats the fault of other teachers and the school. Much more understandable when they are 15+ and are at the 'awkward' stage. Why we insist on the school leaving age being compulsory and so high is just gross stupidity and reveals a distinct lack of understanding and psychology by our elected representatives. I was educated at a Grammar school and even there some kids 'needed' to leave at 15/16 so God only knows what it was like in a Secondary Modern or even a Comprehensive. Keeping some kids on against their wishes just hinders their development as well as the development of the other children through basic disruption.

[gumboots]

Year 11 are 15-16 year olds. I've always been an advocate of letting some kids leave formal school based education earlier if necessary but I do think along with that has to go some form of re entry into education when you know you need it. Some people can't learn at 14 but at 24 have got their lives and ambitions clearer in their head. It's hard for them to go back to learning and that should be much easier.

[adsfortheblues]

Year 11 are 15-16 year olds. I've always been an advocate of letting some kids leave formal school based education earlier if necessary but I do think along with that has to go some form of re entry into education when you know you need it. Some people can't learn at 14 but at 24 have got their lives and ambitions clearer in their head. It's hard for them to go back to learning and that should be much easier.

I am sure he meant 20 students from year 11.

[gumboots]

He did but drog mentioned only juniors.

[thenodrog]

I did. My mistake. The rest stands though. According to the teachers at parent teachers night my kids were both hindered by disruptive elements in the class. Sounded like the teachers had written some off but couldn't get rid of them and they were becoming rotten apples in the barrell.

By a remarkable parallel I guess Bowyer (and just about every other manager) faces similar frustrations with the likes of Best, Etohu, Murphy et al. Bad influences that he can't get rid of and who are bleeding the club. Backs up my belief in very lucrative BUT short term contracts in football.

[tomphil]

£30 Quid ...ooops