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It's a good article, can't really argue with most of what he says, well I can and have on here many times but you get my drift.

But equally I can't totally dismiss where Parsons coming from either, things could be worse on the pitch that's for sure.

But the bottom line is Venkys have to go, is as simple as that, all the Bowyer stuff is a side show really.

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Another spot on article from 'blueyedboy'.

The only local reporter who tells it how it is.

https://blueyedboy.wordpress.com/2015/04/15/nudge-for-ninth-is-all-thats-left-of-puny-promotion-push/

Nice article, however it's just a recent history lesson, we all know whats gone on but what we need is someone to show a bit of blue sky thinking and forecast what we need to do in the future rather than what we have done in the past.

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From what little knowledge I have of finance and underwriting, they do actually seem to have stacked the debt onto themselves. I suspect that it sits within a very large conglomerate of similar and larger sized businesses, some making profit, some not. Bit of philanthropy here and there and they've taken a long term view of proceedings. especially they will be happy this summer when we cash a few chips in to balance the books a little.

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Nice article, however it's just a recent history lesson, we all know whats gone on but what we need is someone to show a bit of blue sky thinking and forecast what we need to do in the future rather than what we have done in the past.

Why do you insist on trying to reinvent the wheel? There is no blue sky thinking needed. No magic wand solution only you can think of. You know the answers and have stated it often enough in other discussions. Success comes before work only in the dictionary. The club needs uniting. Some excitement. A proper figurehead. Den thinks a quality CEO would be enough, I think it's simpler. Leave Shaw plodding about losing money with the owners. An Allardyce figure would get at least another 10 point's a year out of these gelled up wannabees and you know it. We need an urgent return back to the PL. You talk about business. How does 100 million turnover sound? Why you ponce about on the fence over Bowyer irritates. Many of our immediate worries are solved with promotion. Especially if we managed to stay up by some miracle.

As long as the fools keep paying the bills we live to fight another day. The trick offield is how to unite everyone else irrespective of them. I'd rally everyone internally and go back to the fans begging forgiveness and ask for help. It's still Rovers. It's a big name. Decent marketers would have a field day building that back up. It's sat there waiting. Some attacking play at home would help. The fans still have half an eye on things even if it's only scousers that get them to the ground. And our away support is very good. I'd go to them as well.

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Nope definitely not. No one has run away with it this season and no team is head and shoulders above the rest like say Leicester / Burnley last season, Cardiff the season before. It's been wide open in the top 6 for any half decent hard working team. Some play some decent quick football but it's still based on being intense and closing down game in game out and going for the wins regardless of losing now and again. look at the teams some have lost the same or even more than Rovers and some defensive records aren't great and the scoring records aren't all amazing. 3 points for a win is what counts as always not a point for a draw and endless little unbeaten runs.

It's been a competitive but there for the taking top 6 league this season. Next will be tougher with probably Championship sized teams like Bristol C who haven't been out of it long coming back up. Knobbers who are a championship sized team with a decent squad and gaffer who knows this div. Then the ones coming down probably not been out of it long either and still have squads who will quickly readapt without having to be smashed to bits. Of course not forgetting the huge parachutes now in effect. Next season is going to be mighty tough, this season has been a disappointing waste !

I completely disagree. Two teams running away with it with the rest miles behind is a sign of a weak league, eg Scottish prem pre Rangers demotion. This year there are six or seven really good teams imo, all of who would give the Burnley and Leicester of last year a good game. Their records are worse as there are only the same number of points to play for, but spread across more teams in contention.
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Gary Bowyer will head off to Pune following the end of the season for a pre-arranged end of season review meeting. I would be majorly surprised if he is sacked, he will instead be given the mandate from Mrs D to carry on for a further 12 months. Budgets for the forthcoming season will be broadly agreed at this meeting and strategies from the clubs executive in relation to dealing with FFP will be put forward.

There is no indication coming from within Ewood or from Pune that GB's job is under threat, I am sure that the chuckle brothers will want some answers for what has happened this season but while Mrs D continues to support Gary his job is not under threat and to be fair from what I have seen at Ewood whilst fans have been disappointed with performances and have vented frustrations there has been no huge calling for Gary's head.

Personally I am very frustrated with what has happened this season, I feel that the squad is good enough to be seriously challenging for a top 6 place but since the start of the year we have no performed anywhere near the level that we should be at (apart from the FA Cup performances) and the buck for that has to stop at the manager's door, I don't want to see excuses from the manager, I want honest answers for why we have regressed this year, I accept that the FFP embargo will have played some part in that but that does not excuse the tactical ineptitude that we have seen at times over the last few months.

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I completely disagree. Two teams running away with it with the rest miles behind is a sign of a weak league, eg Scottish prem pre Rangers demotion. This year there are six or seven really good teams imo, all of who would give the Burnley and Leicester of last year a good game. Their records are worse as there are only the same number of points to play for, but spread across more teams in contention.

Spot on. The team in 6th after 43 games last season had 65 points, the team in 6th this season has 74 points. It's been a much stronger league this year.

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Gary Bowyer will head off to Pune following the end of the season for a pre-arranged end of season review meeting. I would be majorly surprised if he is sacked, he will instead be given the mandate from Mrs D to carry on for a further 12 months. Budgets for the forthcoming season will be broadly agreed at this meeting and strategies from the clubs executive in relation to dealing with FFP will be put forward.

There is no indication coming from within Ewood or from Pune that GB's job is under threat, I am sure that the chuckle brothers will want some answers for what has happened this season but while Mrs D continues to support Gary his job is not under threat and to be fair from what I have seen at Ewood whilst fans have been disappointed with performances and have vented frustrations there has been no huge calling for Gary's head.

Personally I am very frustrated with what has happened this season, I feel that the squad is good enough to be seriously challenging for a top 6 place but since the start of the year we have no performed anywhere near the level that we should be at (apart from the FA Cup performances) and the buck for that has to stop at the manager's door, I don't want to see excuses from the manager, I want honest answers for why we have regressed this year, I accept that the FFP embargo will have played some part in that but that does not excuse the tactical ineptitude that we have seen at times over the last few months.

Thanks for that Kamy... Can really see keeping GB will sell loads more season tickets NOT and we can look forward to another season of garbage

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Gary Bowyer will head off to Pune following the end of the season for a pre-arranged end of season review meeting. I would be majorly surprised if he is sacked, he will instead be given the mandate from Mrs D to carry on for a further 12 months. Budgets for the forthcoming season will be broadly agreed at this meeting and strategies from the clubs executive in relation to dealing with FFP will be put forward.

There is no indication coming from within Ewood or from Pune that GB's job is under threat, I am sure that the chuckle brothers will want some answers for what has happened this season but while Mrs D continues to support Gary his job is not under threat and to be fair from what I have seen at Ewood whilst fans have been disappointed with performances and have vented frustrations there has been no huge calling for Gary's head.

Personally I am very frustrated with what has happened this season, I feel that the squad is good enough to be seriously challenging for a top 6 place but since the start of the year we have no performed anywhere near the level that we should be at (apart from the FA Cup performances) and the buck for that has to stop at the manager's door, I don't want to see excuses from the manager, I want honest answers for why we have regressed this year, I accept that the FFP embargo will have played some part in that but that does not excuse the tactical ineptitude that we have seen at times over the last few months.

we're only 2 points worse off than this time last year and we were restricted to freebies last summer whilst other teams have spent quite big money or got expensive loans in. If the squad wasn't good enough last season then it certainly isn't this year in a much stronger league. It all depends on whether you think the squad was good enough last year. The tactical ineptitude claim is wide of the mark imo, the team is inconsistent and too negative at times but we no longer get rolled over like we did at the beginning of Bowyers tenure. We've also just gone 8 games away unbeaten, that doesn't normally happen if the manager doesn't know what he's doing, especially a manager that is so new.

We'd all love a Mick McCarthy who has done an amazing job with Ipswich, or a Warburton at Brentford who plays great football (but who spent £5m more money than Bowyer last summer) but until the Venky's start taking advice from proper football people then it isn't going to happen. Bowyer has done a good job since he took over and continues to imo. Things could be a lot, lot worse, and are at many clubs who haven't gone through the amount of upheavel and destruction our club has in the last 5 years.

Thanks for that Kamy... Can really see keeping GB will sell loads more season tickets NOT and we can look forward to another season of garbage

Garbage? have we been relegated? did we have a great and exciting cup run? or did we just go through a season with highs and lows whilst under a transfer embargo and remain competetive? It's been dull at times, and frustrating, but not garbage.

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especially a manager that is so new.

Who is that?

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Kamy, there were gargantuan calls for Kean's head and it fell on deaf ears. So I can't see what use there is in people calling for Nice Guy Gary's head....hence there has been none when the majority wouldn't blink if he was sacked tomorrow.

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So the Push for Promotion became the Promotion Pledge.

So what's the mantra for next season? "Watch paint dry with Gaz and the Lads"**

**paint not included

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Who is that?

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Kamy, there were gargantuan calls for Kean's head and it fell on deaf ears. So I can't see what use there is in people calling for Nice Guy Gary's head....hence there has been none when the majority wouldn't blink if he was sacked tomorrow.

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So the Push for Promotion became the Promotion Pledge.

So what's the mantra for next season? "Watch paint dry with Gaz and the Lads"**

**paint not included

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why would that affect you, you don't go to Ewood?

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Go on then Degsy give us your're spin on being 23 points off promotion and 15 points off the play offs..its garbage!

now stop being a boring little child and giving people you don't agree with 'hilarious' nicknames. As you hate everything about the club should i call you 'dingle'?

If you think it's garbage you can vote with your feet next season. i don't agree it's been garbage.

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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_Football_League_managers

He's been in charge longer than Karanka, Warburton, McClaren and Jackett have been at their clubs and they're all miles ahead of us. He's been in charge over 2 years, hardly new anymore.

Bowyer is new to management. I didn't say he was the newest current manager in the league at his respective club.

McClaren and Jackett have been managers a lot longer. Karanka worked with Mourinho. Warburton was Roslers assistant. Bowyer came straight from the youth team. Huge difference.

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Bowyer is new to management. I didn't say he was the newest current manager in the league at his respective club.

McClaren and Jackett have been managers a lot longer. Karanka worked with Mourinho. Warburton was Roslers assistant. Bowyer came straight from the youth team. Huge difference.

Technically Bowyer was a manager before them though, albeit at a different level and remit.

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dont bring me into your know-feck-all club. I'd have had Mick anytime, proper manager....just like I'd have had Maclaren from holland and everyone jeered at that.....

Why? Because he's managed to keep Derby in this league for two seasons?

Let's not beat around the bush, stevie mack has failed at derby. Granted the seasons not over but if they miss out via play offs again (which looks likely) he most certainly will have failed his remit.

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