thenodrog Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Yes everyone else going about there business.. BRFC stuck in limbo land.. Anyone get the impression these twohats aren't bothered in the slightest as if they were ever in the 1st place? + please no-one come out with same old record they were badly advised rubbish.. Think he'll do anything to get away No way can I blame him for that. BRFC is still on a downward curve so any player would want to jump ship whilst they are still hot property.
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Athlete Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 No way can I blame him for that. BRFC is still on a downward curve so any player would want to jump ship whilst they are still hot property. don't blame him one bit...BRFC been on downward ever since the takeover but on the other hand look how JR conducts his self model proffesional compared to Rudy's sulking for a move..last away game at Huddersfield JR made a point of going to both sets of fans whilst Rudy went down the tunnel and a statement for a move not long after...a la back in jan as well
Gav Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 If no other Prem team is serious about him, then yes. Daft move for me, short sighted, typical of today's footballers.
thenodrog Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 No move from a championship team to a Premier League club is daft. Chance of a lifetime opportunity. Even if Watford come down he'll still be in demand by a similar club if he's given a good account of himself over the season. Also if he hasn't cut the mustard he'll have a large wad in his back sack and still be able to take his pick of championship clubs.
Stuart Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 He'll be back in the Championship in 12 months of he goes to Watford.
mustard Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 He'll be back in the Championship in 12 months of he goes to Watford. Perhaps. Still can't really blame him though. If he plays games and achieves a decent return then it might earn him a move to a bigger and better club. If not, at least he's tried. Gestede's not getting any younger so if he's going to make the step up it needs to be now.
Stuart Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Perhaps. Still can't really blame him though. If he plays games and achieves a decent return then it might earn him a move to a bigger and better club. If not, at least he's tried. Gestede's not getting any younger so if he's going to make the step up it needs to be now. Is it really a step up though? Or is it just a payrise. Granted if he went to a perennial PL team like Everton then he'd be making that leap but otherwise he'll just become a Championship player again. It'll be interesting to see how he does in the PL though.
Backroom Mike E Posted June 13, 2015 Backroom Posted June 13, 2015 Is it really a step up though? Or is it just a payrise. Granted if he went to a perennial PL team like Everton then he'd be making that leap but otherwise he'll just become a Championship player again. It'll be interesting to see how he does in the PL though. Better to at least play in the PL and come down than stay in the championship regardless, surely? I know I would, money or no money.
joey_big_nose Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Is it really a step up though? Or is it just a payrise. Granted if he went to a perennial PL team like Everton then he'd be making that leap but otherwise he'll just become a Championship player again. It'll be interesting to see how he does in the PL though.Well should the events transpire as you say he will be a championship player on at least triple what he is getting now. And should Watford get relegated if he performs personally he will get picked up by someone more established - just like Ings has recently.Watford became undoubtedly a step up the day they were promoted.
The Rover of Finland Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Perhaps. Still can't really blame him though. If he plays games and achieves a decent return then it might earn him a move to a bigger and better club. If not, at least he's tried. Gestede's not getting any younger so if he's going to make the step up it needs to be now.No one here blame Rudy. Rovers still must take biggest possible fee.
Stuart Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Well should the events transpire as you say he will be a championship player on at least triple what he is getting now. And should Watford get relegated if he performs personally he will get picked up by someone more established - just like Ings has recently. Watford became undoubtedly a step up the day they were promoted. Fair do's. But let's not pretend (if he goes to Watford) that the the move is about anything other than money.
Hasta Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 What a load of bitter codswallop on here. Most of us are adamant we are going nowhere next season. Why should a player not take a pay rise and go and spend a season playing in the Premiership. It's a definite step up as he gets to put himself on one of the biggest stages in world football. Charlie Austin has spent 1 season in the premier league at a club that has just got relegated. He may well make his England debut tomorrow. I'm really sure he would rather have spent last season plodding around in the Championship.
Stuart Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Charlie Austin has spent 1 season in the premier league at a club that has just got relegated. He may well make his England debut tomorrow. I'm really sure he would rather have spent last season plodding around in the Championship. Different strokes Hasta. Gestede has nothing to gain Internationally from a move to the PL. it may be a shop window for him but surely he's done enough by now to turn the head of a Stoke or a West Brom rather than a Watford. I don't blame him at all but it's all about the $$$$$$.
Hasta Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Different strokes Hasta. Gestede has nothing to gain Internationally from a move to the PL. it may be a shop window for him but surely he's done enough by now to turn the head of a Stoke or a West Brom rather than a Watford. I don't blame him at all but it's all about the $$$$$$. But if Stoke or West Brom don't come in for him, and Watford is his only PL offer, he will take it regardless of cash. As a footballer, he would rather be playing at Old Trafford and The Emirates next season instead of at Ashton Gate and Griffin Park surely??
Stuart Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 But if Stoke or West Brom don't come in for him, and Watford is his only PL offer, he will take it regardless of cash. As a footballer, he would rather be playing at Old Trafford and The Emirates next season instead of at Ashton Gate and Griffin Park surely?? Disagree. He certainly wouldn't take a pay cut to leave.
Hasta Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Disagree. He certainly wouldn't take a pay cut to leave. That's never going to happen as he is not on Jordan's mega bucks. However if Watford offer him £20k a week and, say, Hull offered him £25k, I reckon he would still end up playing in the premier league
Parsonblue Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Different strokes Hasta. Gestede has nothing to gain Internationally from a move to the PL. it may be a shop window for him but surely he's done enough by now to turn the head of a Stoke or a West Brom rather than a Watford. I don't blame him at all but it's all about the $$$$$$. Bottom line is that all players want to test themselves at the highest level that they can. The lure of the Premier League will always attract players. When Sheffield United came in for Ken Furphy I seem to recall that the Rovers offered him the same terms as Sheffield but Furphy left because he wanted to manage in the top flight - the one thing the Rovers couldn't match at that time.
Stuart Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Bottom line is that all players want to test themselves at the highest level that they can. The lure of the Premier League will always attract players. When Sheffield United came in for Ken Furphy I seem to recall that the Rovers offered him the same terms as Sheffield but Furphy left because he wanted to manage in the top flight - the one thing the Rovers couldn't match at that time.That doesn't really prove me wrong. If Rovers had offered Furphy 50% more he might have had a decision to make.As at is Gestede is still under contract. One can infer that there isn't a buy out clause or that it's high enough to be an issue. Personally I'm hoping that he stays until January.
patrickvalery Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Fair do's. But let's not pretend (if he goes to Watford) that the the move is about anything other than money.Maybe a tad unfair stu. If he goes to Watford , they get relegated but he still does the job he's paid for, it almost certainly determines he'll get another Pl gig the year after. Just look at Charlie Austin. Not that it'd be any easier to stomach. Rudy is the one I really wanna keep hold of. Edit. Sorry Sorry, I see its been mentioned already.
USABlue Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Disagree. He certainly wouldn't take a pay cut to leave.Exactly, it's about prem wages not a desire to prove himself at a higber level.
joey_big_nose Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Fair do's. But let's not pretend (if he goes to Watford) that the the move is about anything other than money.It's partly about money but its also about playing at a higher level. I don't see how you can deny that. You wouldnt see any of our players for the dust if a prem club offred the same terms as they get at Rovers and we were willing to let them go. Can you name a single player who has ever denied a move to the premiere league to play in the Championship...??And on that score Gestede wanting to move to Watford is much more defendable than, say, Rhodes coming to us which was more of a sideways move at the time (we were in the same division but paid an absolutely massive wage in this division to get him). People in glass houses etc..
chaddyrovers Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Transfer gossip in today's Sun 1. "Jordan Rhodes is ready to snub a championship move away from Blackburn. Boro are keen on him but Rhodes is eyeing a Premier league switch. 2. Swansea will go for Rudy Gestede if their 12 million bid for Anderlecht's striker Mitrovic is reject. Rudy is the one I really wanna keep hold of. Gestede over Rhodes? Exactly, it's about prem wages not a desire to prove himself at a higber level. Gestede is much improved player since joining Rovers and would be asset to any PL team but the top 8 teams.
DavidMailsTightPerm Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Gestede over Rhodes? Every day of the week - even when not scoring Gestede offers a threat - plus his wages are less. I will readily admit that Rhodes has a goal scoring pedigree that Gestede currently can't match - but it doesn't make up for the fact that Rhodes can be at times totally anonymous in matches - whereas Gestede (even when not scoring) always creates a threat due to his size and physical presence.
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