[Archived] Transfer Talk

[K-Hod]

Isn't the plan to invest top dollar to achieve the best results for promotion which in turn brings bigger crowds increased revenue and so on.

If not what's in it for the supporter.

Unless we get out of this embargo we can't spend a penny, never mind top dollar!

[Athlete]

But Jal, we can't buy good players due to embargo and we can't spend more than 10k on wages on free transfers or Loan.

Whose fault is it were under an embargo who are the people who didn't find a way around this embargo like other clubs managed to or did they not want to ...Too many questions not enough answers from the loons in charge..

Mid June and we're waiting for a meeting between the manager and the owners in pune or as Kamy said was meant to be arranged for Zurich a few weeks back but didn't happen.. What way is this to run a club yes a club with no chairman..

As Zurich was mentioned that then raises even more questions but yet again non of us know the answers

The more we think about it the more we go round in circles

The only positive thing since the takeover is the ST ticket prices nothing else as the club as a lot of fans knew it as been ruined

[K-Hod]

It's obvious who's fault it is, and we knew it was coming, but now we're under this embargo we can't spend money.....

[Julian Barker]

I always maintained I would remain on the board as a 'lurker' so as not to get involved with the nonsensical arguments, but I have to ask "what's happened to Anton Forrester". Not a mention anywhere when people are discussing our potential striker shortage (& lack of pace). Has something happened to him I've not heard about, or is it a case of everybody maoning & groaning & losing sight of players (possible important) who are actually on our books. I know all about his injury, but I suspect he'll be fully fit for pre-season & should be a very useful member of the squad. Low wages as well.

[K-Hod]

http://www.rovers.co.uk/news/article/rovers-announce-retained-list-2458823.aspx- he's been offered a new deal, so it makes sense to get him integrated in the first team if he's deemed good enough....

[Al]

? Surely as Gestedes strength is his ability in the air then by playing to Gestede we are also playing to JR simply by having Rudy as a target man to knock balls down in the area?

Just as an aside what do you see as Rhodes strengths and how would you play to them?

That's one of the problems. He doesn't knock them down he knocks them on and Rhodes is too slow to run on to them. He would have to be offside to beat the defenders to the ball. That is why the tactic never works. Rudy needs to head them DOWN rather than ON to the opposition defenders.

[Athlete]

It's obvious who's fault it is, and we knew it was coming, but now we're under this embargo we can't spend money.....

Not that we have any

[blueboy3333]

That's one of the problems. He doesn't knock them down he knocks them on and Rhodes is too slow to run on to them. He would have to be offside to beat the defenders to the ball. That is why the tactic never works. Rudy needs to head them DOWN rather than ON to the opposition defenders.

Very true, although i'm not sure the balls up to him are always that great. He normally heads them on 20 yards out side the penalty area too because the oppo defences can afford to push out because we don't have any pace for balls in behind the defence to be a threat. This gives there CB's plenty of time to recover and like you say Rhodes is never going to beat them for pace. Losing one of Rudy/Rhodes might not be the end of the world if replaced with someone with genuine pace and ability.

[RevidgeBlue]

? Surely as Gestedes strength is his ability in the air then by playing to Gestede we are also playing to JR simply by having Rudy as a target man to knock balls down in the area?

Just as an aside what do you see as Rhodes strengths and how would you play to them?

Pretty obvious to me, he's forever making excellently timed runs on the shoulders of the centre halves but we lack anyone with the vision and ability in midfield to pick him out. We need someone with the ability to thread the ball through to him ideally.

[Bucksrover]

Pretty obvious to me, he's forever making excellently timed runs on the shoulders of the centre halves but we lack anyone with the vision and ability in midfield to pick him out. We need someone with the ability to thread the ball through to him ideally.

I think a big problem is how deep we sit. With Williamson and Evans just in front of the back 4, anchoring us very deep in our half - when we do win the ball back and manage to find Rhodes he is still on the half-way line with a quicker defender or two to beat.

If we attacked quickly and with numbers as a team, and gave the ball to Rhodes in or around the box he would score even more than he does.

[neophox]

Over a month since the league finished and no one has bid for Rhodes and Gestede yet. Thats strange. And maybe a fingerpoint that they could still be here in august.

[RevidgeBlue]

Over a month since the league finished and no one has bid for Rhodes and Gestede yet. Thats strange. And maybe a fingerpoint that they could still be here in august.

I don't think it's particularly odd, most of the transfer action won't commence until at least July 1st when players contracts tend to expire and in recent years most activity at the higher end of the market seems to be left as late as possible so Clubs aren't paying players for nothing for sitting on a beach or whatever.

That said, if the owners play hardball on the prices there is still some hope although it will be difficult and potentially risky in Gestede's case if he desperately wants away.

[Athlete]

seeing as the situation we are in regarding FFP - but hey everyone knew it was on the horizon

Rovers must do their upmost to keep at least one of JR/Rudy if not both

[LewisF]

If they both agree to stay then we should keep them both up until January, at which point if we are doing well (top 6) they can stay if they want, but if we are in mid-table or lower then they can go

[BlooBoy]

Regarding Rhodes i do believe there will not be any great interest IMO.

The lads limitations as a footballer (not a goal scorer ) are all there to see and this will put off many Premier League clubs. His fee and most certainly his wages SHOULD also see off any Championship clubs coming in for him.

The lad has made no noise about leaving and TBH i think hes very happy where he is at the moment...unlike Gestede.

A good pointer is Scotlands lack of belief in Rhodes. You would think Rhodes would may have been quite suited to play in a "British" international for Scotland against Ireland (average players for both sides ) but Strachan and his coaches certainly think differently.

Jordan Rhodes is most certainly not a player a bottom 8 Premier League club can afford to carry when scrapping for their lives ..you simply cannot play with ten men week in week out hoping Rhodes can stick one away.Championship ..yes Premier League ..no.

[Damien]

Do we have any more updates with regards to FFP?

[Jim Royle]

Very true, although i'm not sure the balls up to him are always that great. He normally heads them on 20 yards out side the penalty area too because the oppo defences can afford to push out because we don't have any pace for balls in behind the defence to be a threat. This gives there CB's plenty of time to recover and like you say Rhodes is never going to beat them for pace. Losing one of Rudy/Rhodes might not be the end of the world if replaced with someone with genuine pace and ability.

What, someone like Joshua King, you mean

[blueboy3333]

What, someone like Joshua King, you mean

Aye, but less injury prone and not living in B'mouth.

[blueboy3333]

Degsy speaks!.

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http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/watfordfc/watfordfcnews/13333380._/

[thenodrog]

Over a month since the league finished and no one has bid for Rhodes and Gestede yet. Thats strange. And maybe a fingerpoint that they could still be here in august.

Might already be a case of done deal between another club and the player(s) and their agent(s). Not everything appears in the press remember. Lots of stuff goes on behind closed doors and both parties could simply be waiting for the return to training before announcing their moves.

If they both agree to stay then we should keep them both up until January, at which point if we are doing well (top 6) they can stay if they want, but if we are in mid-table or lower then they can go

How do you think that would go down if we are bottom 6?

[LewisF]

How do you think that would go down if we are bottom 6?

Well I highly doubt that that will be the case but if Gestede and/or Rhodes wanted to go at that time, there isn't really much other option

[thenodrog]

Well I highly doubt that that will be the case but if Gestede and/or Rhodes wanted to go at that time, there isn't really much other option

This division is very unpredictable and we are getting weaker every season and now FFP has turned us into a proper lame duck. The way I see it there is absolutely no logical reason for us to do better next season than we have the previous two, and plenty of logical reasons to see us do worse and even struggle.

[chaddyrovers]

? Surely as Gestedes strength is his ability in the air then by playing to Gestede we are also playing to JR simply by having Rudy as a target man to knock balls down in the area?

Just as an aside what do you see as Rhodes strengths and how would you play to them?

I think Rhodes plays better with a playmaker in behind him like Cairney or Marshall, sliding balls through for him to run on to.

that's why I would probably play 4-2-3-1 unless Gestede is still here at the start of the season

Over a month since the league finished and no one has bid for Rhodes and Gestede yet. Thats strange. And maybe a fingerpoint that they could still be here in august.

I expect Gestede to leave with a couple of PL teams interested in him according to media reports I've read.

But I think Rhodes will still be here this season due to the high asking price and IMO PL clubs wont pay that asking price

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

This division is very unpredictable and we are getting weaker every season and now FFP has turned us into a proper lame duck. The way I see it there is absolutely no logical reason for us to do better next season than we have the previous two, and plenty of logical reasons to see us do worse and even struggle.

Though not saying it will be us - in truth who would have expected Burnley to do what they did, or even Ipswich.

[BlooBoy]

"I think Rhodes plays better with a playmaker in behind him like Cairney or Marshall, sliding balls through for him to run on to."

Personally id rather us play with two wingers (not central mids shoe horned into the side as wingers Mr Bowyer).I think two wingers getting to the by line or in front of Rhodes is ideal for him.

Rhodes is at his best and most dangerous with the ball in front of him. His hold up play is awful and anything slid through which isnt perfect he will never get to due to his lack of pace. But Rhodes coming onto crosses and cut backs he will be in his element in front of goal..

Play Marshall and Olsson as wingers (Spurr back at full back). That just leaves the three in midfield ..hmm...this is when it all goes wrong with the players at our disposal .. A little steel and craft definetely required there.

Can Cairney be a consistent play maker ?