[Archived] Transfer Talk

[tomphil]

Just imagine if they did that and then in turn let them bring in a manager and go again from there. That's all it would take to get the whole thing moving again and it wouldn't cost the earth. Easily find a place for GB if he wanted it. No guarantees and it wouldn't happen overnight but we'd be storming in the right direction again in no time. Wise up Venkys before it really is too late to salvage anything from your nightmare tenure.

[windymiller7]

As fantastic as that sounds - and it even brought a smile to my face - that would mean the Vs swallowing their pride and eating a very large slice of humble pie. Unfortunately you and I both know that's never going to happen.

[DE.]

Mrs Desai but there seems little chance that she will remove the board or even think about changing the manager.

It needs a top down restructure but that won't happen.

The crazy thing is that IF the venky's went to John Williams and Tom Finn (both of whom still care passionately about the club) and asked them to comeback, they would do it (providing they got certain reassurances) and in one go they would not only get the club back on track but also give the fans some hope.

This post actually made me despair even further. Even now, redemption is possible, but thanks to the ego and idiocy of our owners there is no hope of it ever happening.

[tomphil]

Aye it seems in their world they still think the way they are doing it is right, as long as those down the line toe the line that's all that matters. I sincerely hope if it ever does go completely tit's up it takes all their personal wealth with it. They might just realise how stupid they've been then !

[broadsword]

Just goes to show the different way of doing business.

There's nothing worse to them than losing face. Reputations and perceptions and knowing your place matter so much more than actual ability.

[gumboots]

You wouldn't lose face if you blamed all that's gone wrong on bad advice from people seeking to use you for their own selfish ends. Everyone can sympathise with that. I'm sure a decent spin doctor could get them portrayed as unwilling victims of unscrupulous people and they could hold their heads high whilst taking back the people they wronged on advice from that nasty person. They could look all generous and magnanimous if they employed people to spin it properly. And then I woke up.

[broadsword]

Never own up to a mistake when you can just blatantly lie through your teeth.

[Jimmy612]

Mrs Desai but there seems little chance that she will remove the board or even think about changing the manager.

It needs a top down restructure but that won't happen.

The crazy thing is that IF the venky's went to John Williams and Tom Finn (both of whom still care passionately about the club) and asked them to comeback, they would do it (providing they got certain reassurances) and in one go they would not only get the club back on track but also give the fans some hope.

How sad that this will never happen. It just makes the whole current situation even harder to swallow. How crass, mindless and completely ignorant of them to dismantle everything good about this club in such a short space of time.

What a sorry mess

[Darwen Rover 007]

Agreed how totally depressing that post is from kamy...

[tomphil]

Just goes to show the different way of doing business.

There's nothing worse to them than losing face. Reputations and perceptions and knowing your place matter so much more than actual ability.

Thing is though in their world I genuinely believe that they think they are doing it the best way and are going to revolutionise football ownership. Probably think carry on like this for a season or two and they will have a squad of 20 players with an average worth of 2 or 3 million each to sell every few years then keep repeating the process. I bet that's what they've told the bankers anyway. It's a bit like breeding big expensive chickens in their eyes probably.

[blueboy3333]

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/11880238._/?ref=mac

Looks like the Boro Gazette were right, they were/are still trying to sign Rhodes.

[Athlete]

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/11880238._/?ref=mac

Looks like the Boro Gazette were right, they were/are still trying to sign Rhodes.

Looks like people within Ewood want to sell Mrs D says no...

The only right thing they've actually done is sign a goalscorer all be it overpriced.. But our inept management can't utilise him but I'm sure an awful lot of other clubs would

[ABBEY]

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/11880238._/?ref=mac

Looks like the Boro Gazette were right, they were/are still trying to sign Rhodes.

And just like the smoggie rag .. Not one quote .

[Athlete]

And just like the smoggie rag .. Not one quote .

Someone or some people are trying to punt him that's for sure..

I wouldn't sell as you'd be very hard pressed to get a goals return similar

[Jimmy612]

Looks like people within Ewood want to sell Mrs D says no...

The only right thing they've actually done is sign a goalscorer all be it overpriced.. But our inept management can't utilise him but I'm sure an awful lot of other clubs would

Hmmm 65 Championship goals in 123 games suggests our 'inept management' have actually done very well in utilising him. Rhodes staunchest defenders tell me he's valuable because he scores goals - he has done that under Bowyer. Or are you telling me that under 'competent management' he'd have scored 100 goals in 123 games?

At some point Jordan Rhodes will have to realise that goals alone aren't enough if he wants to play regularly in the Premier League. I can't think of a single striker at the moment playing at the top level who is as limited as Rhodes as a footballer.... in fact I can't really think of many in the last decade. In fact, there's not many in the championship this season that have scored goals and you would consider as weak as Rhodes in other facets of the game.

He does 'okay' in the Championship but if he goes to the Prem it's a whole different ball game and I personally think he would really, really struggle. Look at the strikers that have scored just as many as him in the champ in the past decade and you'll note that not many have gone on to be a success in the prem.

I understand people will now retort with "well we aren't in the prem so it doesn't matter". Maybe so, but in my opinion it's all relative. Rhodes style of play means that for the majority of the match you are playing with 10 men, with him sniffing out chances where and when possible. This can often leave us struggling to maintain possession, particularly against the better teams when we find ourselves relying on our frontmen to if you like 'be the first line of our defence'. Holding the ball up, allowing the midfield to face the oppostiion goal and put their foot on the ball - even simply running the flanks and providing respite for the defence. Rhodes is in fact completely hopeless at this aspect of his game, and it is unequivacly a problem for us.

At £12m it could only make sense to sell Rhodes - he isn't a £12m player. Sadly for us, there are so so so many additional factors that would mean we might not be able to replace him properly. No opportunity to spend the money on transfers, and restrictions on the wages we can pay even in loan scenarios means that perhaps we will be reliant on Rhodes goals next season to keep us in the league, let alone fire us into the top 6 or further.

That's why this decision is surrounded by so much controversy on here. I'm sure all Rovers fans would accept that every player has his price - sadly what would happen to the money is the problem

[AllRoverAsia]

He does 'okay' in the Championship - now that's Comedy Gold.

Tell it to Boro.

Considering Jordan is spending his time in a team set up to play Hoof-ball of a low standard he's not done too badly IMO.

[rickard]

Also from the article:

"Rovers were yesterday concentrating their efforts on bolstering their injury hit squad before the emergency loan window closes at 5pm today.

Under the terms of the club’s embargo for failing Financial Fair Play they are able to bring in one player on loan or on a free transfer.

Rovers were yesterday linked with a loan move for Manchester United centre-back Tyler Blackett.

But with captain Grant Hanley declaring he should be fit for the trip to Leeds United on Saturday week, it is understood Blackett is not the player Rovers are boss Gary Bowyer is targeting."

Any rumors as to who we are targeting then?

[Jimmy612]

He does 'okay' in the Championship - now that's Comedy Gold.

Tell it to Boro.

Considering Jordan is spending his time in a team set up to play Hoof-ball of a low standard he's not done too badly IMO.

I understand ARA - You're very much the Roy of the Rovers type, 'the only role of a striker is to score goals'.

Bit in bold - it looks like we agree then - he's not done too badly but he's not been worth the ridiculous fee and wages we paid, and certainly isn't worth £12m.

[Athlete]

Hmmm 65 Championship goals in 123 games suggests our 'inept management' have actually done very well in utilising him. Rhodes staunchest defenders tell me he's valuable because he scores goals - he has done that under Bowyer. Or are you telling me that under 'competent management' he'd have scored 100 goals in 123 games?

At some point Jordan Rhodes will have to realise that goals alone aren't enough if he wants to play regularly in the Premier League. I can't think of a single striker at the moment playing at the top level who is as limited as Rhodes as a footballer.... in fact I can't really think of many in the last decade. In fact, there's not many in the championship this season that have scored goals and you would consider as weak as Rhodes in other facets of the game.

He does 'okay' in the Championship but if he goes to the Prem it's a whole different ball game and I personally think he would really, really struggle. Look at the strikers that have scored just as many as him in the champ in the past decade and you'll note that not many have gone on to be a success in the prem.

I understand people will now retort with "well we aren't in the prem so it doesn't matter". Maybe so, but in my opinion it's all relative. Rhodes style of play means that for the majority of the match you are playing with 10 men, with him sniffing out chances where and when possible. This can often leave us struggling to maintain possession, particularly against the better teams when we find ourselves relying on our frontmen to if you like 'be the first line of our defence'. Holding the ball up, allowing the midfield to face the oppostiion goal and put their foot on the ball - even simply running the flanks and providing respite for the defence. Rhodes is in fact completely hopeless at this aspect of his game, and it is unequivacly a problem for us.

At £12m it could only make sense to sell Rhodes - he isn't a £12m player. Sadly for us, there are so so so many additional factors that would mean we might not be able to replace him properly. No opportunity to spend the money on transfers, and restrictions on the wages we can pay even in loan scenarios means that perhaps we will be reliant on Rhodes goals next season to keep us in the league, let alone fire us into the top 6 or further.

That's why this decision is surrounded by so much controversy on here. I'm sure all Rovers fans would accept that every player has his price - sadly what would happen to the money is the problem

TBF you make some valid points.. I for one think we overpaid but his record his second to none but with better service or in a side what suits him better how many more would he get?

Watch his Huddersfield dvds it shows how he was played to his strengths

12 million is a lot but as I understand we still owe a chunk to Huddersfield plus a sell on clause so in all fairness can see the owners point.. But you're right the money wouldn't go to the side.. FFP and all which everyone knew was coming

As for that playing with 10 men tbh Rhodes puts more of a shift in than Gestede.. Also go back through history and lot of goalscorers did little else except put the ball in the net even Jimmy greaves didnt do any grafting but guess what he was prolific in the box

[chaddyrovers]

Varney extended his Ipswich Loan

http://www.rovers.co.uk/news/article/luke-varney-ipswich-town-2359058.aspx

[AllRoverAsia]

I understand ARA - You're very much the Roy of the Rovers type, 'the only role of a striker is to score goals'.

Bit in bold - it looks like we agree then - he's not done too badly but he's not been worth the ridiculous fee and wages we paid, and certainly isn't worth £12m.

TBH I would take the £12m

[Rover_Shaun]

I would take the £12m too........under normal circumstances. But the club is on it's arse and the only way we can pay off the debt is to get out of this league and for that we need to keep our best players and have them organised adroitly

[Darwen Rover 007]

Any rumours on anyone coming in?

[ABBEY]

TBH I would take the £12m

For Varney ? Me too

Any rumours on anyone coming in?

The bailliffs

[Rover_Shaun]

Varney ain't worth 12 million Dong