[Archived] championship 14/15

[OJRovers]

Season is over... We are sticking with Gary. FACT

Lets give him the first ten games next year, surely he deserves that, I'm still behind Gaz for the record.

Bowyer is unsackable. Like Kean, he'll walk before being sacked.

[Waggy76]

Because of the stability Bowyer has given us , just maybe Derby will head hunt him to be their stabiliser ?

Then again !

[Dunnfc]

Bowyer is unsackable. Like Kean, he'll walk before being sacked.

Why sack him?

We missed out on the play-offs but lets get things in perspective here, we finished were we deserved. Next season we go again.

I'd like to think if Gaz thought he couldn't continue anymore he'd resign unlike that idiot. Been with Rovers twelve years now, i think we are lucky to have him to be honest.

The ship is steadied and now we need to kick on, i think everyone recognises that but I think he deserves to start the season and see how it goes. What we need is Raos/Shebby stating seasonal objectives etc.

[Mercer]

Season is over... We are sticking with Gary. FACT

Lets give him the first ten games next year, surely he deserves that, I'm still behind Gaz for the record.

Sadly, the damage is now done.

The last two seasons were our big opportunity to get back up. Unfortunately, Rovers blew it by persisting with the boring and incompetent Bowyer.

We settled for mediocrity and it will now only get worse other than Bowyer's pension fund.

[Dunnfc]

Sadly, the damage is now done.

The last two seasons were our big opportunity to get back up. Unfortunately, Rovers blew it by persisting with the boring and incompetent Bowyer.

We settled for mediocrity and it will now only get worse other than Bowyer's pension fund.

Utter tripe Mercer!

Look at the teams which have gone up this year, look at the top six and man for man they've been better than Rovers this year, spent more and sadly been able to continue the momentum throughout the season due to lesser injuries than ourselves.

Are we better than Watford, Bournemouth or Norwich? No...

[JBiz]

Nail on head.

I still maintain a 'proper' manager would have taken Rovers very, very close.

At least the Bowyerettes will be happy.

Nobody is happy, but some of us might see that we could have so easily appointed the wrong man- Mcclaren, Rosler, Clark, Mackay etc and gone even further backwards.

[Mercer]

Utter tripe Mercer!

Look at the teams which have gone up this year, look at the top six and man for man they've been better than Rovers this year, spent more and sadly been able to continue the momentum throughout the season due to lesser injuries than ourselves.

Are we better than Watford, Bournemouth or Norwich? No...

A football club is only as good and successful as its manager.

Norwich were pants with Adams in charge. Then brought in a 'proper' manager and the rest is history.

A 'proper' manager would have got at least 20% more out of Rovers. How can a Championship club with a 40 goal / season strike force be so far adrift. It's scandalous and tells you how incompetent and uninspiring Bowyer and his team of coaches are. As for our injuries, our medical team has, IMV, been coasting since Phil Batty left - they all need a rocket up them.

[ABBEY]

Why sack him?

We missed out on the play-offs but lets get things in perspective here, we finished were we deserved. Next season we go again.

I'd like to think if Gaz thought he couldn't continue anymore he'd resign unlike that idiot. Been with Rovers twelve years now, i think we are lucky to have him to be honest.

The ship is steadied and now we need to kick on, i think everyone recognises that but I think he deserves to start the season and see how it goes. What we need is Raos/Shebby stating seasonal objectives etc.

the ship is sailing in 100m + debt, a clueless skipper in bowyer, no lifeboats in transfer embargo and in shallow water finishing in our 2nd lowest position id guess in 18-19 years..

STABLITY RULES OK

[Mercer]

Nobody is happy, but some of us might see that we could have so easily appointed the wrong man- Mcclaren, Rosler, Clark, Mackay etc and gone even further backwards.

Equally, we could have appointed a Dyche or a Neil and been salivating at the prospect of PL football next season.

Sadly, Bowyer is in the mold of Nigel Clough, but not as good - a slow burner taking you nowhere.

[chaddyrovers]

Who knew who Alex Neil was before he appointed as Norwich manager? Hardly anyone tbf. So Mercerman don't act like you would have appoint him last season.

Mercerman, you have mention many managers on here and alot of them have been sacked. Like Wee Dougie at Bolton.

[mustard]

Why sack him?

We missed out on the play-offs but lets get things in perspective here, we finished were we deserved. Next season we go again.

I'd like to think if Gaz thought he couldn't continue anymore he'd resign unlike that idiot. Been with Rovers twelve years now, i think we are lucky to have him to be honest.

The ship is steadied and now we need to kick on, i think everyone recognises that but I think he deserves to start the season and see how it goes. What we need is Raos/Shebby stating seasonal objectives etc.

Do you truly think we can kick on under Bowyer?

We said the same last season after stabilising the season before. The squad has been settled for a long time but Bowyer can't bring the best out of them. What makes you think we'll play any better next season with the same formula that hasn't worked for two seasons? Next season I have no doubt you'll be saying the same thing.

We are haemorrhaging money, have Premier League facilities that are unsustainable for a team happy to sit mid-table in the Championship. Promotion is key. Everyone is pretty certain Bowyer doesn't have the capabilities of achieving it, so why waste our time hoping he'll acquire the necessary attributes required for promotion? All because changing manager has ended worse for a couple of other teams doesn't mean we should be afraid of doing it. Norwich and Watford gambled and it paid off handsomely.

[Mercer]

Who knew who Alex Neil was before he appointed as Norwich manager? Hardly anyone tbf. So Mercerman don't act like you would have appoint him last season.

Mercerman, you have mention many managers on here and alot of them have been sacked. Like Wee Dougie at Bolton.

and who had heard of Warburton.

The diamonds are out there waiting to be discovered.

Sadly, Rovers have fool's gold in Bowyer.

[mustard]

And so help me god if some start defending Bowyer by championing the improved performances of Gestede, Kilgallon and Olsson whilst failing to acknowledge the declining form of the rest of the squad...

[chaddyrovers]

And who had heard of Warburton before he was appointed as manager at Brentford? Not many

[JBiz]

Equally, we could have appointed a Dyche or a Neil and been salivating at the prospect of PL football next season.

Sadly, Bowyer is in the mold of Nigel Clough, but not as good - a slow burner taking you nowhere.

What are the chances out current infrastructure will make a well thought out "Southampton" style move?

I'd say slim to none. Nobody can deny the lack of progression but it's easy to see how things could be much worse.

8 players in Norwich's first team went down with them. I think that's the reason why after nearly 50 games, they are where they are.

[K-Hod]

And so help me god if some start defending Bowyer by championing the improved performances of Gestede, Kilgallon and Olsson whilst failing to acknowledge the declining form of the rest of the squad...

You've got a point there.

But in the same vein, so help me God if people start lamenting what we could have had whilst championing managers that they'd never have heard of before their current positions. BRFCC hindsight, never seen owt like it.

Had anyone REALLY heard of Alex Neil before Norwich took him on? Same with Warburton? Karanka is in his first job, McLaren has often flattered to deceive, but has more experience in fairness.

Before anyone says 'Karanka worked under Mourinho', Brian Kidd worked under Ferguson for how long? And he was one of the biggest crocks of dung we've ever had in the dugout.

[Mercer]

What are the chances out current infrastructure will make a well thought out "Southampton" style move?

I'd say slim to none. Nobody can deny the lack of progression but it's easy to see how things could be much worse.

8 players in Norwich's first team went down with them. I think that's the reason why after nearly 50 games, they are where they are.

They have good players, as do Rovers.

The difference is simply the manager as Adams v Neil has shown.

[Stuart]

Season is over... We are sticking with Gary. FACT

Lets give him the first ten games next year, surely he deserves that, I'm still behind Gaz for the record.

And after 10 games then what? Another artificial and baseless 'deadline' will be set and round and round we'll go.

[Mercer]

You've got a point there.

But in the same vein, so help me God if people start lamenting what we could have had whilst championing managers that they'd never have heard of before their current positions. BRFCC hindsight, never seen owt like it.

Had anyone REALLY heard of Alex Neil before Norwich took him on? Same with Warburton? Karanka is in his first job, McLaren has often flattered to deceive, but has more experience in fairness.

Before anyone says 'Karanka worked under Mourinho', Brian Kidd worked under Ferguson for how long? And he was one of the biggest crocks of dung we've ever had in the dugout.

Rovers have a proud history of discovering managerial talent. Furphy, Lee, Smith and Kendall spring readily to mind.

It's all nonsense as to who out there is better than Bowyer. There are many and many.

[den]

What are the chances out current infrastructure will make a well thought out "Southampton" style move?

I'd say slim to none. Nobody can deny the lack of progression but it's easy to see how things could be much worse.

Jesus JB, give that one a rest. If we lost to Accrington you'd be on here saying how things could be much worse. The only time you'll change your tune is when there's no club left to get worse.

[Mercer]

And after 10 games then what? Another artificial and baseless 'deadline' will be set and round and round we'll go.

Spot on.

I remember the Rovers Fans even giving Kean a number of 'deadlines'.

[K-Hod]

Rovers have a proud history of discovering managerial talent. Furphy, Lee, Smith and Kendall spring readily to mind.

It's all nonsense as to who out there is better than Bowyer. There are many and many.

Not disagreeing with that Mercer, but is anyone at boardroom level going to rock the boat? (As much as they should, I've got my doubts!)

[Amo]

Why sack him?

We missed out on the play-offs

No, Wolves & Derby missed out on the playoffs. We were 11pts away.

but lets get things in perspective here, we finished were we deserved.

Ummm...isn't that point? Too many lacklustre performances meant we had to settle for midtable mediocirty, despite having a 40 goal strikeforce.

[glen9mullan]

I agree with other posters , what's this give it 10 games lark ??

This is exactly what happened with Kean , far too many supporters either said give him more time , or don't rock boat as it affects players .

The Kean era has come and gone , and I think A few would be a tad embarrassed about their blind faith in Kean and Venkys back then .

It's interesting that it's now universally accepted how bad Kean and co was , including by those who blindly backed him .

We now are in similar waters in terms of , give it 5 games , give it 10 games , give it until January ???

Without digging up old Kean post or old Bowyer post .

I wish people would stop moving the goal post and make a decision and stand by it .

This club would be in a much better place had supporters opened their eyes 3.5 years ago .

What will it take , before people wake up and smell the cocoa ?

Stability ???? It's just laughable that this old chestnut keeps getting wheeled out .

It's a results business , simples !!! Just ask Allardyce , Maclaren and Clough and Ancelloti who have all lost their jobs in the last 24 hours.

[Dunnfc]

Do you truly think we can kick on under Bowyer?

We said the same last season after stabilising the season before. The squad has been settled for a long time but Bowyer can't bring the best out of them. What makes you think we'll play any better next season with the same formula that hasn't worked for two seasons? Next season I have no doubt you'll be saying the same thing.

We are haemorrhaging money, have Premier League facilities that are unsustainable for a team happy to sit mid-table in the Championship. Promotion is key. Everyone is pretty certain Bowyer doesn't have the capabilities of achieving it, so why waste our time hoping he'll acquire the necessary attributes required for promotion? All because changing manager has ended worse for a couple of other teams doesn't mean we should be afraid of doing it. Norwich and Watford gambled and it paid off handsomely.

Good post along with Glens may i add.

Its a results game as we know but one slip of the wrist and we end up like a Wigan etc. Not just on the pitch but of it we are progressively improving it hasn't been our year but this league was the toughest i've known the Championship to be. With the embargo it's tough but agreed we havent maximised our opportunities, too many late goals and slow starts have cost us this year.

A more settled squad, clear aims propounded in the media and a bit of visible pressure on Gaz could see the squad react. We've a good nucleus but not great but an ethos of never giving up is clear to see.

Out of the teams coming down i don't think they make a stronger league, quite the opposite i fancy our chances to ruffle some feathers if we can get the squad intact and i'm a believer in reassesing the position of the manager after ten games. If we are below the playoffs it gives us time to change they are not missing out on a transfer window due to the embargo in such a case.

Tin hat on and at the ready...