[Archived] Season tickets again!

[barry_]

any increase in the price will be a disaster.

The club has to realise why it reduced the price to £200 a few seasons back...to get people into the stadium. The pricing structure needs to reflect that again and not go down the 'we need revenue so we'll increase prices... less people attend...increase !!!ect ect ect' ever decreasing circles.

If they do (and i've no doubt that the @#/? we have at the club right now have no idea about how to attract fans) then it will be hard to afford and people will just not be able to attend on a regular basis.

[Gav]

Selfish cobblers actually. You hate Venky's and everyone else loves them, you want them out irrespective of what anyone else thinks, you want to watch 11 fat blokes from the Butlers in blue and white shirts on a Sunday morning. What about the other 9,999 who want to watch their hometown team, the old timers who have been going 60 years? Screw them as long as you get what you want.

Sorry EIT but everyone should want Venkys out of the club for what they've done not only to the football club, but to the town, businesses and families.

I met a lad I used to work with a few weeks back, not seen him for ages. He used to go to matches with his 90yr old granddad up until the relegation season under ****. His granddad sadly passed away not long after and he swears blind he died of a broken heart, all his granddad talked about was Blackburn Rovers and what Venkys had done to the club.

Now its sentimental nonsense to many I'm sure, but how many more people have been affected like his granddad?

Lovely fella lived for the club and died for it.

Brought it home to me I can tell you.

[Rover_Shaun]

It's a crying shame Gav. A bloody maddening dis-fcking-grace

Venkys have created such a malaise that it is now less than 24hrs from Kick off and there isn't even a match thread

[ABBEY]

shhh its only me who wants venkys out ask EIT .

[perthblue02]

So Anderson and co are innocent in it all are they? - Our demise is solely down to a cunning plan by venkys to lose a lot of their own money, and in return get berated by people with anger issues who write in capital letters?!

I wish we could be back to where we were before they bought us - I despair at the Venkys, who are supposedly astute business owners, but took such shocking advice in running our club. But my hate is focussed on Anderson and those who profited from our demise in a calculated manner. Another difference between Venkys and Anderson is they have stuck around and Anderson and co have gone to ground.

Surely that is the same as saying somebody who was part of a murder plot and handed the killer a knife should be praised because they have stuck around to try and clean up the crime scene

[DE.]

they are the only ones who stuck around to face the consequences. Not saying that makes them heroes - I just have more time for someone who makes a mistake and then sticks around, rather than those who knew what they were doing and profited from our demise.

I doubt it's by choice.

[Athlete]

Woah. Slow down, Gordon. I'm struggling with this one.

You stopped going to watch Rovers in protest because you didn't want to give Venkys £250. What has changed in your eyes that makes you think that giving them £450 will improve matters?

Will it make them employ a better manager? Will it pay of the debt (in something less than a thousand years)? Will it go towards funding the players we need to plug the gaps that we still have? Will it help us meet FFP?

From where I'm sat it won't. So why have you decided differently? Have you fallen into the trap of superimposing the template for a normal club onto the basket case that we currently are? Or something else?

He's got his golf handicap has good as he can bit like GB took us as far as he can

[ABBEY]

I doubt it's by choice.

Head nailed it

[Exiled in Toronto]

shhh its only me who wants venkys out ask EIT .

I was making the point that anyone who doesn't join in your constant yelling of Venky's Out you brand a Venky lover.

There aren't any!

However, while they are here I want as much of their money as possible to go into repairing the damage they have done.

Clear enough now?

[Husky]

Comparing us to Leeds is a non-starter, they are the only club in one of the UK's biggest cities, with a massive hinterland to draw from, their 25000 is nothing to write home about.

Was gonna mention that. The population of Leeds is roughly 7 times that of Blackburn, so ultimately they should be pulling in 7 times the crowd comparatively. Their ground obviously isn't big enough for that - though it's fair to say that every game they don't completely sell-out is a big fail.

[Husky]

dross eh? Just to add much needed balance to this thread how do you describe Blackpool's, Wigan's and Millwall's performances then?

Yes COMPLETE dross. Even a dingle would have too many fingers to count the number of decent performances on one hand during the past 2 seasons.

[tomphil]

Was gonna mention that. The population of Leeds is roughly 7 times that of Blackburn, so ultimately they should be pulling in 7 times the crowd comparatively. Their ground obviously isn't big enough for that - though it's fair to say that every game they don't completely sell-out is a big fail.

The ticket prices don't help them but I believe they can get in areas of the ground for a lot cheaper than they charge aways so that doesn't wash too much. People need to think a bit when comparing crowds and holding other teams as examples. They still have about 40k available and there is often just about as many empty seats for a random championship game there as there is at Ewood. They pull in about 10k more home fans than us yet their City is like you say many times the pop of Blackburn and they pull fans from all north Yorkshire. Their actual fanbase is probably 3 times ours and if they where top they'd be pulling in ten thou more on average just like we'd pull in a lot more if we were. So it's just the same in real terms.

[ABBEY]

I was making the point that anyone who doesn't join in your constant yelling of Venky's Out you brand a Venky lover.

There aren't any!

However, while they are here I want as much of their money as possible to go into repairing the damage they have done.

Clear enough now?

clear as mud.

[Stuart]

I was making the point that anyone who doesn't join in your constant yelling of Venky's Out you brand a Venky lover.

There aren't any!

However, while they are here I want as much of their money as possible to go into repairing the damage they have done.

Clear enough now?

Whose money?

If I thought it was theirs I'd be very glad to think that they were suffering as much as the fans but the concern is that they are simply creating a bigger and bigger albatross to hang around our neck when they go. Just wait until they are asking for their £100m back, Gaydamak-style.

[thenodrog]

Woah. Slow down, Gordon. I'm struggling with this one.

You stopped going to watch Rovers in protest because you didn't want to give Venkys £250. What has changed in your eyes that makes you think that giving them £450 will improve matters?

Will it make them employ a better manager? Will it pay of the debt (in something less than a thousand years)? Will it go towards funding the players we need to plug the gaps that we still have? Will it help us meet FFP?

From where I'm sat it won't. So why have you decided differently? Have you fallen into the trap of superimposing the template for a normal club onto the basket case that we currently are? Or something else?

Not whilst Kean and Anderson were picking their pockets I didn't. Corrupt / evil / malicious being far far worse traits in my book than being naive / ignorant / misguided. Delete as appropriate.

[Exiled in Toronto]

Whose money?

If I thought it was theirs I'd be very glad to think that they were suffering as much as the fans but the concern is that they are simply creating a bigger and bigger albatross to hang around our neck when they go. Just wait until they are asking for their £100m back, Gaydamak-style.

I think people underestimate the effect of the depth, complexity and longevity of the Band of India's relationship with the Venky business and the Rao family. No-one on here knows how the debt is split between theirs and the bank's money but it's unimaginable to me that BoI would risk their entire relationship with a very large and profitable company run by a very wealthy family over a debt that will no doubt be secured against assets in India, and represents a small part of their entire dealings.

You may be right on your scenario but I would be most surprised if anything material has changed in another 12 months time. After that, who knows? I don't know what I'll be doing in a year's time.

[thenodrog]

FANS FAULT AGAIN ..

Adds much fuel to the old BRFC=racist club slur though doesn't it? Given that all those clubs have had to wade through various levels of similar crap our club is the one that loses the most supporters. Therefore the likeliest conclusion is that we have a support base full of either glory hunters or racists. Which would you go for Abbey?

Comparing us to Leeds is a non-starter, they are the only club in one of the UK's biggest cities, with a massive hinterland to draw from, their 25000 is nothing to write home about.

On to your main point, we are still seeing the effects of HOW we went down, the 13000 we see each week, I believe would be 15000/16000 without the horrendous Kean debacle, however we do get 13000 and that isn't going to go in an upward direcction for as long as we bumble around in mid table.

Gordon is correct, we have devalued our product in the prices we charge for STs, I can remember him being one of the few dissenting voices back in 2009 when John Williams launched the 'Take back Ewood' inititative.

It was fantastic seeing a packed Ewood back then, however the business plan was to sell c20000 STs at £200 with a PL TV deal behind us, not selling 10000 on a FL income.

But of course, something is only worth what people are prepared to pay and there is obviously no market left to sell STs at £400 to Blackburn Rovers fans.

Therefore, it was vital that with these horrendous looking figures, that we gave it a go at getting promoted- yet we have appointed a succession of poor managers and wasted the chance.

The mathematics only lead one way. 3 or 4 loss making clubs into 1 self sufficient one. There is a certain inevitability to it.

The attendence, even for derby games, will suffer if people don't think we have a chance of winning. If we're forced to endure Browny and Varney up front next season I don't know how we're going to win matches - because our midfield certainly don't chip in very often with goals!

Indeed. I'm pretty sure our next move will be relegation, and our next serious promotion bid season will be to the Championship, but so what? We have been there before and given our expected income that is our rightful place.

[thenodrog]

NOT FOOTBALL LEAGUE , NOT FANS NOT WHOEVERYOU WANT TO BLAME ...

THE BLAME LIES WITH THE OWNERS!!!!!!!!

Indeed so Abbey. We are in a situation that was warned of time and again by some on here and scoffed at by many. However I prefer that in the past tense abbey. THE BLAME LAY WITH THE OWNERS!!!!

However whats done is done, no one can turn the clock back so from now on any blame WILL LIE WITH THE FANS!!!

Effectively imo the situation we all face is use it or lose it.

If anyone thinks stay aways will or should come back now and pay 26 quid to watch mid table championship games with nothing to play for just because of 2 battling efforts against a big gun then your showing Keano levels of delusion.

And the stay aways will simply be left to hammer the last nails into our coffin.

[thenodrog]

any increase in the price will be a disaster.

The club has to realise why it reduced the price to £200 a few seasons back...to get people into the stadium. The pricing structure needs to reflect that again and not go down the 'we need revenue so we'll increase prices... less people attend...increase !!!ect ect ect' ever decreasing circles.

If they do (and i've no doubt that the @#/? we have at the club right now have no idea about how to attract fans) then it will be hard to afford and people will just not be able to attend on a regular basis.

reduce the price, reduce the income, reduce the quality of players = relegation. Then repeat the process to oblivion. More ever decreasing circles barry. The end result whichever way you want to view it is that if this town cannot support a professional team then it won't have one. Not rocket science is it?

[thenodrog]

Sorry EIT but everyone should want Venkys out of the club for what they've done not only to the football club, but to the town, businesses and families.

I met a lad I used to work with a few weeks back, not seen him for ages. He used to go to matches with his 90yr old granddad up until the relegation season under ****. His granddad sadly passed away not long after and he swears blind he died of a broken heart, all his granddad talked about was Blackburn Rovers and what Venkys had done to the club.

Now its sentimental nonsense to many I'm sure, but how many more people have been affected like his granddad?

Lovely fella lived for the club and died for it.

Brought it home to me I can tell you.

Nice story but just a load of tosh. Whilst reading that I'm sure that I could hear the hovis ad music! tbf I've noticed in the LT obituaries that lots of 90 year olds do frequently die.

btw Does this lad still go? If not then in my book it is just a convenient excuse.

[Stuart]

Nice story but just a load of tosh. Whilst reading that I'm sure that I could hear the hovis ad music! tbf I've noticed in the LT obituaries that lots of 90 year olds do frequently die.

btw Does this lad still go? If not then in my book it is just a convenient excuse.

Wow. New low.

[Athlete]

Indeed so Abbey. We are in a situation that was warned of time and again by some on here and scoffed at by many. However I prefer that in the past tense abbey. THE BLAME LAY WITH THE OWNERS!!!!

However whats done is done, no one can turn the clock back so from now on any blame WILL LIE WITH THE FANS!!!

Effectively imo the situation we all face is use it or lose it.

And the stay aways will simply be left to hammer the last nails into our coffin.

Your talking garbage... The blame cannot lie with the fans.. As for stay aways your hypocrisy knows no bounds

[Darwen Rover 007]

Any news on when the season ticket prices are due..?

Apologies if it's already been mentioned.

[mustard]

Indeed so Abbey. We are in a situation that was warned of time and again by some on here and scoffed at by many. However I prefer that in the past tense abbey. THE BLAME LAY WITH THE OWNERS!!!!

However whats done is done, no one can turn the clock back so from now on any blame WILL LIE WITH THE FANS!!!

Effectively imo the situation we all face is use it or lose it.

And the stay aways will simply be left to hammer the last nails into our coffin.

The blame does not lie with the fans. Even if we packed out Ewood each week the additional revenue would only account for a small part of the turnover. It would be a fairly nominal improvement in our financial plight. Of course it would be helpful but considering the size of the town and our attendances even in the Premiership, it is very unrealistic. Even with backing from the fans, there is no suggestion there would be an improvement in GB's coaching methods/tactics, no suggestion there would be an improvement in performances and thus no suggestion there would be an improvement in results.

There are those who have a much more significant bearing in our future: Venky's and their actions from here, Shaw and the board - perhaps if they actually had any influence in selecting a new manager, and finally Bowyer as performances and results lie firmly on the heads of he and his coaching staff. If play-offs is the aim then they are failing thus far and decisions have to be made for the future of the club or else we shall continue to slide. You might be happy sitting tight and watching us fall under Bowyer saying "ahh well, we had it worse before Jack - it's where we belong", but I'd rather see BRFC fight to secure the future of the club, and if getting promoted is the only means of achieving that then I'd prefer us get someone else in and actually have a "right good go" at it than simply dithering along as we are.

[McClarky]

The club is a business and the fans are their customers. There are no circumstances where the demise of a business is the fault of their customers. Their failure to keep their customers happy and engaged is the reason why we'll continue to drift down the leagues while Venkys stay in charge.