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[arbitro]

A good performance in an entertaining game. Baptiste was the stand out player for me in what is undoubtedly his best position. And this right back we have found allows him to play there. Cairney was once again more influential in a central position which again for many is his best position. Not rocket science really. Winning is what it's all about and Bowyer seems to have found some formula and long may it continue.

[Stuart]

A good performance in an entertaining game. Baptiste was the stand out player for me in what is undoubtedly his best position. And this right back we have found allows him to play there. Cairney was once again more influential in a central position which again for many is his best position. Not rocket science really. Winning is what it's all about and Bowyer seems to have found some formula and long may it continue.

I hope Bowyer does stick with this formula, if he has finally found it, and it's not just forced on him. If he does then he deserves a credit.

The alternative is Baptiste or Duffy continuing to make way for Hanley. It seems to me that Kilgallon is a clear leader, has far more experience, and is not complemented by having someone else barking orders around him. How Bowyer deals with this will be key - assuming he is still here next season.

[chaddyrovers]

I hope sign Baptiste permanent and given Kilgallon a new contract aswell. plus sell Hanley. not needed here.

I would build my team around Cairney. he should be our playmaker.

Can I ask how Spurr played yesterday?

[JBiz]

I plus sell Hanley. not needed here.

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Completely disagree. Hanley has been a good player in the past and will again. Don't forget Cairney, Marshall, Conway etc have had bad spells this season.

[DE.]

I'd keep Hanley as back-up to better players but he should under no circumstances be captain.

[arbitro]

Completely disagree. Hanley has been a good player in the past and will again. Don't forget Cairney, Marshall, Conway etc have had bad spells this season.

But from an ability point of view you could argue he is third choice behind Kilgallon, Duffy, Baptiste (and at the moment Henry). I would wager that out of them four he is the highest paid. For me it would be an easy decision to cash in on him.

[Tom]

I would certainly have Killgallon, Baptiste and Duffy in before Spuddy so if he is happy as fourth choice then fair enough, he's just about adequate in that role.

Plus he can put more focus on his hunt for ladies and beer which he seems more committed to anyway.

[chaddyrovers]

Completely disagree. Hanley has been a good player in the past and will again. Don't forget Cairney, Marshall, Conway etc have had bad spells this season.

I would have Kilgallon, Baptiste, Duffy all ahead of him.

The team performs much better without him IMO.

[Amo]

Regardless of what anyone wants, Bowyer will be itching to put Hanley back into the side.

[K-Hod]

Regardless of what anyone wants, Bowyer will be itching to put Hanley back into the side.

We'll see. Though if he does if everyone else in his position is playing as they currently are it will certainly be the wrong decision.

[JBiz]

I would have Kilgallon, Baptiste, Duffy all ahead of him.

The team performs much better without him IMO.

That's a fair point. In terms of selling him though- you saw yesterday we ended up with Spurr at CB because of Killa, Hanley, Duffy, Henry being injured. Wouldn't it be better to keep for occassions like this if say Killa and baps are first choice but out?

I struggle to see the point of an academy if we are going to get players into the first team, into their international teams and then fob them off for a pittance!

[arbitro]

Regardless of what anyone wants, Bowyer will be itching to put Hanley back into the side.

If he does put him back in the side straight away Bowyer will run the risk of losing the bit of credibility he has gained through recent results and decision making. There are very few Rovers fans who would see sense in this.

[1864roverite]

The key is building a team around Cairney in the middle of the park. If he is has a workhorse beside him, someone who can run, destroy the opposition midfield as well as protecting or boosting our back 4 it will work wonders.

Spearing alongside him is a good match, as is Evans. On his day Spearing can win a game on his own.

Keep Hanley out of the side and look what happens? The proof is in the pudding.

[DE.]

If he does put him back in the side straight away Bowyer will run the risk of losing the bit of credibility he has gained through recent results and decision making. There are very few Rovers fans who would see sense in this.

This was said earlier in the season too, arbitro, and Bowyer went right back to putting Hanley in the side. I'd be very surprised if he isn't straight back in when available. By making Hanley captain Bowyer has, to an extent, painted himself into a corner. There aren't many sides who would leave their appointed captain on the bench!

[JBiz]

This was said earlier in the season too, arbitro, and Bowyer went right back to putting Hanley in the side. I'd be very surprised if he isn't straight back in when available. By making Hanley captain Bowyer has, to an extent, painted himself into a corner. There aren't many sides who would leave their appointed captain on the bench!

By the same token he can't redeem himself or rediscover form by sitting on the bench.

[DE.]

By the same token he can't redeem himself or rediscover form by sitting on the bench.

His redemption doesn't have to come at the expense of the team. If we have injuries and he needs to play, he can rediscover it then. In the meantime he has no right to walk back into the team to prove himself when others are impressing.

[Amo]

Players should always be picked on merit. On current form Hanley shouldn't be picked ahead of the rest.

[tomphil]

By the same token he can't redeem himself or rediscover form by sitting on the bench.

With Hanley it's been proven there are better options who fit in more comfortably. He isn't as bad as some make out but he's gone stale at Rovers imo. Thrown in young way before he was ready he coped mainly because of his physical attributes. Technically and positionally others are far better.

He'll come good again but I think it needs to be a fresh challenge away from Ewood. If we could get a few quid I trade him rather than some others. Look around and good centre halves are easier to find at this level, we've proven that. This is no hate fest just a solution to trying to move forward what's become a problem otherwise we'll go down the same road again soon.

[LDRover]

You are all forgetting though that Hanley is the first to put his hand up to play every game.

So, on that basis, he'll be back when fit.

[Stuart]

With Hanley it's been proven there are better options who fit in more comfortably. He isn't as bad as some make out but he's gone stale at Rovers imo. Thrown in young way before he was ready he coped mainly because of his physical attributes. Technically and positionally others are far better.

He'll come good again but I think it needs to be a fresh challenge away from Ewood. If we could get a few quid I trade him rather than some others. Look around and good centre halves are easier to find at this level, we've proven that. This is no hate fest just a solution to trying to move forward what's become a problem otherwise we'll go down the same road again soon.

I'm inclined to agree about the fresh start. Shame we couldn't have sent Hanley and kept O'Connell. In terms of the stages of their development and the needs of the first team.

All that said, there was a time when folk joked that we should have sent Marcus to Norwich instead of Martin but he has made the lb position his own ahead of a very capable Tommy Spurr. I'm not sure if Hanley's pride and ego would allow him to go back to the bench, take it as a kick to work harder and learn from technically better players. But I don't know the guy so it's only a guess.

[tomphil]

Thing is with Hanley he can be a formidable defender when at his best but he seems an individual rather a back four unit type player. A lot of it could be because he's raw and he hasn't exactly played under great managers or coaching staff. Nor has he had much guidance on the pitch until killa and that's taken too long to implement and only came about by default really. Result is he's a bit of a maverick on the pitch who tends to play under his own steam and definitely doesn't like being told what to do on there.

He needs to play second fiddle to the experience for a good while but I can't see that working out.

[ABBEY]

You are all forgetting though that Hanley is the first to put his hand up to play every game.

So, on that basis, he'll be back when fit.

Or first hand up when asked who wants another pint

[tomphil]

Or first hand up when asked who wants another pint

...with a shot...

[ABBEY]

That would go over his head .. A bouncing jaeger

[Gav]

Completely disagree. Hanley has been a good player in the past and will again. Don't forget Cairney, Marshall, Conway etc have had bad spells this season.

Hanley has never been very good and is also the one player that's been in the side whilst we've had defensive frailties, the rest have all gone. Dann used to basically play centre half on his own as Hanley was out of position time and time again.

He's not very good, his positional sence is terrible, he comes charging out of degence and misses the ball time and time again and his distribution is awful.

Get rid.

going for 3-1 win today

Good effort Chaddy.