Speedie Dived Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 If he could lead the line AND score a guaranteed 20+ goals a season, he wouldn't be here, would he? Rhodes is the least of our worries. Very true. Agree the full back areas need addressing as an area of concern, think the left back could be moving on. But eventually we will get better as a team and we will need a striker that can lead the line. Which I suppose will be a good problem to have.
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BlooBoy Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 Very true. Agree the full back areas need addressing as an area of concern, think the left back could be moving on. But eventually we will get better as a team and we will need a striker that can lead the line. Which I suppose will be a good problem to have. Erm ..lets get better first eh .? One win and suddenly we re running before we can walk...selling players buying players.. Lets keep things into perspective.
Speedie Dived Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 Erm ..lets get better first eh .? One win and suddenly we re running before we can walk...selling players buying players.. Lets keep things into perspective. That's what the word 'eventually' meant. But we will need to buy and sell in January if we want to improve, which I am sure we will do. Lambert will have been watching us for a few weeks and probably have an idea who he wants to replace and who with.
Ewooduknow Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 And you saw this yourself Saxo ....? ah no..thought not Players have ups and downs ..a player notching 20 goals plus for six seasons aint doin too bad. When his name is not mentioned once on the BBC highlights commentary, you don't need to be there to know he's done feck all.. Howie..
Stuart Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 I'm sorry Stuart but Rhodes isn't a complete striker and he never will be. He's one paced and he's limited physically. He puts himself about as much as he can do. For a tallish guy he's an average header of the ball. If he was a complete striker he wouldn't be playing in this division. Even Shearer who was 10 times the striker Rhodes is wasn't a complete striker. He's admitted that himself in his writings. The last complete striker I saw was Marco Van Basten before he got injured. The Brazilian Ronaldo before his " Fat Elvis " stage was pretty handy also. Sorry if anyone who compares Rhodes to Shearer has already lost their argument.He has improved massively and is still our best goalscorer and MVP. I'm genuinely not sure what people expect. When his name is not mentioned once on the BBC highlights commentary, you don't need to be there to know he's done feck all.. Howie.. Hahaha. It's impossible to have a serious debate about a player's overall contribution to a match with someone who gets their intel from the highlights real.Over and out.
Ewooduknow Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 Does it not occur to you rhodesettes that a major reason we don't get goals from other areas of the team is because Rhodes creates nothing for others?
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 Well as we re struggling at the moment to put together a good side ..maybe hes worth hanging on to . Definitely., no question about that. But let's not kid ourselves that there aren't other ways of playing and other players out there.
Ewooduknow Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 Definitely., no question about that. But let's not kid ourselves that there aren't other ways of playing and other players out there. Exactly.
yoda Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 Does it not occur to you rhodesettes that a major reason we don't get goals from other areas of the team is because Rhodes creates nothing for others? I think PL will come up with a solution and keep JR at the same time
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 Sorry if anyone who compares Rhodes to Shearer has already lost their argument. He has improved massively and is still our best goalscorer and MVP. I'm genuinely not sure what people expect. Hahaha. It's impossible to have a serious debate about a player's overall contribution to a match with someone who gets their intel from the highlights real. Over and out. I'm not comparing them because there is no comparison. Just illustrating a point about what a complete striker looks like for the guys who obviously have never seen one.
Speedie Dived Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 Sorry if anyone who compares Rhodes to Shearer has already lost their argument. He has improved massively and is still our best goalscorer and MVP. I'm genuinely not sure what people expect. Hahaha. It's impossible to have a serious debate about a player's overall contribution to a match with someone who gets their intel from the highlights real. Over and out. Garner, Speedie, Newell, Jansen were all better players and probably Garner a better goalscorer. People expect/want a centre forward to run the channels and hold the ball up and if you can't and someone could potentially offer 12 million, serious questions have to be asked.
Pedro Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 You are missing the point. We need a centre forward who can run the channels and hold the ball up as much as we need one that can score 20 goals. The frustrating thing is he showed against Ipswich that he can do it. For me, that was his best performance in a Rovers shirt. His goal return is fantastic and make him worthy of being in the team week in, week out. His performances though can be abject and his assists (for long periods) absolutely non-existant. He's a strange one...Thankfully a 20+ goal a season strange one.
Speedie Dived Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 The frustrating thing is he showed against Ipswich that he can do it. For me, that was his best performance in a Rovers shirt. His goal return is fantastic and make him worthy of being in the team week in, week out. His performances though can be abject and his assists (for long periods) absolutely non-existant. He's a strange one...Thankfully a 20+ goal a season strange one. Yeah I know what you mean, he is a good 'problem' to have. I think the Ipswich centre half had just learnt to run the day before in that game.
Proudtobeblue&white Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 JR is our AS, it's all relative. We need a Sutton, or a Gally, or someone PL can get to compliment him. I think he will find someone?
Gav Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 He wouldn't get into any of the good Rovers sides in the past unfortunately. Sorry Tyrone but that's just Bunkum. Shearer and Sutton aside, he'd have played in most Rovers sides in my lifetime. Can you imagine Rhodes with Wilcox and Ripley supplying the service? Rhodes playing alongside Bellamy, or playing with Tugay or Berkovic pulling the strings. He's scoring 20 goals in a poor side!
Pedro Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 Yeah I know what you mean, he is a good 'problem' to have. I think the Ipswich centre half had just learnt to run the day before in that game. Hahaha! I think you are right.
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted November 22, 2015 Moderation Lead Posted November 22, 2015 Does it not occur to you rhodesettes that a major reason we don't get goals from other areas of the team is because Rhodes creates nothing for others?Has he got to create goals as well as score them now?
Ewooduknow Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 Watch our winning goal in the league cup final, Jansen's contribution to it. Nobody can tell me that Rhodes cannot be capable physically of doing that type of thing, he's just lazy and can't be arsed.
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted November 22, 2015 Moderation Lead Posted November 22, 2015 That's nonsense, Rhodes can be assed, the laziness thing is a myth. If Rhodes did all the things people are asking of him, he'd be up front for Real Madrid.
Ewooduknow Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 Has he got to create goals as well as score them now? Yes, why not? Garner, speedie, Newell, shearer, Sutton, gallacher, Bellamy etc etc did it easily enough.
mustard Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 Some people are straight up dumb. Don't seem to realise we are a mid-table Championship side. Look around the league and pick out all the "more complete strikers" you'd rather have in your team. Very few of them have goals and assists tallies that together total more than Rhodes gets in the season. His finishing is second to none and we are damn lucky to have him. If Rhodes was a more complete striker, if he was quicker and/or was a bigger physical presence, he would be playing Premier League football and arguably for a Champions League club. Wake up people.
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted November 22, 2015 Moderation Lead Posted November 22, 2015 Yes, why not? Garner, speedie, Newell, shearer, Sutton, gallacher, Bellamy etc etc did it easily enough.What about the other players doing their job and chipping in with more goals, rather than leaving the whole burden on Rhodes. The laziness argument is a it churlish given barely anyone else has chipped in this season! If it weren't for Rhodes we'd be much further down the table. It's better to have him than not, nobody else looks capable of stepping up to the plate when he isn't there.One final point- when Rhodes leaves, we will miss him much more than he misses us.
bob fleming Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 Oh deep joy. A Rhodes discussion. Can some one create a thread for this twaddle.
mustard Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 What about the other players doing their job and chipping in with more goals, rather than leaving the whole burden on Rhodes. The laziness argument is a it churlish given barely anyone else has chipped in this season! If it weren't for Rhodes we'd be much further down the table. It's better to have him than not, nobody else looks capable of stepping up to the plate when he isn't there. One final point- when Rhodes leaves, we will miss him much more than he misses us. Some would rather have a hard-working lump like Brown up top than Rhodes. Hell, Gestede got away with being a lazy sod simply because he was great in the air. I'd argue his hold up play was worse than Rhodes' as he didn't have the brain, the touch, the pace, the motivation nor the movement to bring the ball down, lay it wide and run into space.
Ewooduknow Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 And i'll make a point. Why did the sides promoted all the while we've had Rhodes in this league not require a striker with his goal output?
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