[Archived] The General Election 2015

[Baz]

Really? Even though the electorate appear to much prefer 'centre ground politics'?

That is the problem at present. They have no clear identity. The party members seem to want to push left, whereas the electorate are further right than Milliband, apart from Scotland. I can see this tearing the party apart.

[ultrablue]

The electorate clearly prefers the centre ground. That is why the Labour Party need to concentrate on moving the centre ground left again. They have a few years to attack from the left, then a few more years to present something a little more electable.

Just look at the work being done by Sanders and Trump in the states. Totally unelectable but firing up the base and dominating their respective agendas.

[jim mk2]

Labour should take their cue from the coalition from 2010 - 15 and the Tories since the election - present themselves as a centre party then when they get in power enact the policies that are core to their central beliefs.

Telling downright lies helps too, such as misleading the electorate with vague notions of a "northern powerhouse" and then 4 weeks later reneging on all the promises until they are quietly forgotten.

[yoda]

Labour should take their cue from the coalition from 2010 - 15 and the Tories since the election - present themselves as a centre party then when they get in power enact the policies that are core to their central beliefs.

Telling downright lies helps too, such as misleading the electorate with vague notions of a "northern powerhouse" and then 4 weeks later reneging on all the promises until they are quietly forgotten.

Labour should take their cue from the coalition from 2010 - 15 and the Tories since the election - present themselves as a centre party then when they get in power enact the policies that are core to their central beliefs.

Telling downright lies helps too, such as misleading the electorate with vague notions of a "northern powerhouse" and then 4 weeks later reneging on all the promises until they are quietly forgotten.

Like Blair did

[Gav]

They all tell lies Yoda.

Look at the Northern powerhouse porkie, as soon as they got in they cut the electrification of the lines in the North, but kept the London to Cardiff one live and they new before the election they'd be cutting it.

Lying Tory swines, they're not interested in the North.

[Mike E]

The North remembers...and Winter is coming...

[T J Hooker]

I don't really know anything about this Jeremy Corbyn but he seems to have an actual personality and isnt afraid to get peoples bags up, so that's already a big improvement over Sillyband and his war mongering predecessor

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

Complete and utter bunkum with respect.

Labour lost the election under Browns leadership, haven't been electable since and you think Corbyn makes Labour unelectable? doesn't really make an sense does it......

I see you've graduated to the Jim school of debating. I do agree with quite a few policies of the left, to the point where I occasionally consider voting for Labour. However one thing I struggle with is most of the lefties who are into politics seem to be complete arseholes incapable of mature discussion.

[K-Hod]

I see you've graduated to the Jim school of debating. I do agree with quite a few policies of the left, to the point where I occasionally consider voting for Labour. However one thing I struggle with is most of the lefties who are into politics seem to be complete arseholes incapable of mature discussion.

Most is probably a bit harsh, but there are definitely some overly sensitive!

[Mike E]

I love the irony of many left-minded people I know actually being quite fascistic:

'You can't say that, how dare you!'

What a very right-wing approach...

[yoda]

They all tell lies Yoda.

Look at the Northern powerhouse porkie, as soon as they got in they cut the electrification of the lines in the North, but kept the London to Cardiff one live and they new before the election they'd be cutting it.

Lying Tory swines, they're not interested in the North.

Of course they all do,

Simple solution, sack one MP a week (randomly, so from either of the parties) and take their pensions of them until parliament gets it right,

I reckon within a month the country would be governed a whole lot better.

I must be mellowing as my original version has them being shot not sacked.

[Gav]

I see you've graduated to the Jim school of debating. I do agree with quite a few policies of the left, to the point where I occasionally consider voting for Labour. However one thing I struggle with is most of the lefties who are into politics seem to be complete arseholes incapable of mature discussion.

I said with respect and I meant it.

People tend not to vote Labour because they're only interested in themselves, the Tories offer a government for people feathering there own nests and sod the people struggling, they're all scroungers anyway

As for lefties, yes I tend to agree, some are arseholes but you get arseholes in all walks of life and they're sadly on the increase in todays society.

[thenodrog]

They all tell lies Yoda.

Look at the Northern powerhouse porkie, as soon as they got in they cut the electrification of the lines in the North, but kept the London to Cardiff one live and they new before the election they'd be cutting it.

Lying Tory swines, they're not interested in the North.

maybe there's a clue here....... http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/dynamicmap.html

Odd thing though that when New Lab was in power for all those years they weren't either..... to their cost it seems

[thenodrog]

I see you've graduated to the Jim school of debating. I do agree with quite a few policies of the left, to the point where I occasionally consider voting for Labour. However one thing I struggle with is most of the lefties who are into politics seem to be complete arseholes incapable of mature discussion.

I find many of them embittered. In fact too embittered to be trusted to place the good and prosperity of the nation before their prejudice.

[K-Hod]

I find many of them embittered. In fact too embittered to be trusted to place the good and prosperity of the nation before their prejudice.

Given what the Tories did in the past, it's little wonder folk are bitter is it Gordon?

[thenodrog]

Given what the Tories did in the past, it's little wonder folk are bitter is it Gordon?

What was that then?

[jim mk2]

You know the answer to that one Gordon.

[adopted scouser]

Cameron is often called 'chinless' but Andy Burnham clearly has no top lip.

Corbyn laughing reminds me of the Emperor from the Death Star

[thenodrog]

You know the answer to that one Gordon.

Enlighten me jim.

[jim mk2]

Enlighten me jim.

Again ? You've been told so many times even you must remember

[thenodrog]

Let me see....... 'We will not devalue'.......... 'winter of discontent' ..... 'Weapons of mass destruction'... Financial crash / banking scandal'.

How am I doing Jim?

[jim mk2]

Let me see....... 'We will not devalue'.......... 'winter of discontent' ..... 'Weapons of mass destruction'... Financial crash / banking scandal'.

How am I doing Jim?

Poor. You've not been paying attention.

[thenodrog]

Poor. You've not been paying attention.

Poor. You've not been paying attention.

Seems like the majority of the electorate haven't either since the New Labour disaster years.

[jim mk2]

Seems like the majority of the electorate haven't either since the New Labour disaster years.

Mmm, disaster of 3 successive election victories and repairing the damage of 19 years of Tory misrule .

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But then you knew that already Gordie.

[K-Hod]

Don't Jim and Gordon make a lovely couple?