[Archived] The General Election 2015

[Gav]

The Tory Party don't need to tell me that the country is full of scroungers. I see them every day in Accrington Centre.

Alright Al...

[ABBEY]

It's amazing and truly wonderful insight how a few people in Accrington become a "country full of scroungers". The rantings of a bigot and the facts are distant relations.

I've never said anything this bad to chaddy .

[Mike E]

Corbyn would genuinely up my interest in Labour. Much like Farage did for UKIP, if I believe they mean what they say, they're the kind of politicians we need!

[Al]

It's amazing and truly wonderful insight how a few people in Accrington become a "country full of scroungers". The rantings of a bigot and the facts are distant relations.

I could say exactly the same about Jim on Conservatives but I am a little more polite.

[T J Hooker]

Watching corbyn on c4 last night, he came across very well intellectually, im not sure how old he is though but I thought he looked a little weak and sickly. The other labour guy their was a total creep and the epitome of the kind of labour mp we want to see the back of and the two womwn where just way out of there depth it seemed.

[thenodrog]

Corbyn would genuinely up my interest in Labour. Much like Farage did for UKIP, if I believe they mean what they say, they're the kind of politicians we need!

I'm amazed how quickly Labour supporters have forgotten the unmitigated disaster that was Michael Foot. For our younger readers Foot was a veteran, scruffy extreme left winger like Corbyn too. The daft sods at Smith square thought he would be the perfect antidote to the right of centre Tory leader of the day. Turned out as expected by most clear thinkers that the blessed St Margaret made absolute mincemeat of the poor bugger every day in the House. If it had been a boxing match it would have been stopped in Round 1.

[K-Hod]

Still got to love the irony of calling Thatcher 'Blessed St Margaret' on a football message board!

[jim mk2]

Among her many other faults, she actually hated football. I loved the story around the time of the hooligan problems in the 1980s about former FA secretary Ted Croker telling Thatcher to get "her (society's) hooligans out of our football grounds" - the vindictive cow went ape-@#/? apparently. The Rovers board that appointed her as VP should hang its head in shame.

[Gav]

I'm amazed how quickly Labour supporters have forgotten the unmitigated disaster that was Michael Foot. For our younger readers Foot was a veteran, scruffy extreme left winger like Corbyn too. The daft sods at Smith square thought he would be the perfect antidote to the right of centre Tory leader of the day. Turned out as expected by most clear thinkers that the blessed St Margaret made absolute mincemeat of the poor bugger every day in the House. If it had been a boxing match it would have been stopped in Round 1.

Welcome to the 1980's

[ABBEY]

Among her many other faults, she actually hated football. I loved the story around the time of the hooligan problems in the 1980s about former FA secretary Ted Croker telling Thatcher to get "her (society's) hooligans out of our football grounds" - the vindictive cow went ape-@#/? apparently. The Rovers board that appointed her as VP should hang its head in shame.

Now that I agree with

[thenodrog]

I see that as another proud moment in a long line of proud moments in our history.

[yoda]

I see that as another proud moment in a long line of proud moments in our history.

Bit hypocritical when you have just posted this

"By saying that yoda you are effectively comparing GB to Steve Kean and that simply is not right."

in another thread

[thenodrog]

You've lost me.

[Mike E]

Wait... Thatcher going all out to rid football of hooliganism was bad?

[Baz]

Wait... Thatcher going all out to rid football of hooliganism was bad?

Thatcher treating all football fans as criminals was bad.

[Mike E]

Thatcher treating all football fans as criminals was bad.

Aren't we treated that way anyway? Yes it's bad but I've felt intimated by police on several occasions. Under Blair, Brown and Cameron.

Just a quick sidenote:

If police persist in asking your details, just get your phone out and film. Ask their name and police number and if you're being detained.

If they refuse or continue to ask you questions without detaining you, quote Section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986 (causing harassment, alarm or distress) and they should leave you well alone.

Being a 'yoot' with a hoodie (not even up) they seem to like me :/

[Paul]

Watching the BBC news filming of the refugee crisis has brought home to me the depth of this problem. It underlines a basic fact, there are fundamentally two types of people in the world, those who have and those who have nothing but hope. Hope that we will help them.

Then I see Cameron and realise Britain doesn't even offer that.

Of course he's right the real solution is in Syria or wherever but until then surely we can offer these people something more than nothing?

[ABBEY]

Wait... Thatcher going all out to rid football of hooliganism was bad?

er she treated ALL football fans like @#/?.

Aren't we treated that way anyway? Yes it's bad but I've felt intimated by police on several occasions. Under Blair, Brown and Cameron.

Just a quick sidenote:

If police persist in asking your details, just get your phone out and film. Ask their name and police number and if you're being detained.

If they refuse or continue to ask you questions without detaining you, quote Section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986 (causing harassment, alarm or distress) and they should leave you well alone.

Being a 'yoot' with a hoodie (not even up) they seem to like me :/

not as bad she treated us. She even wanted us carrying ID cards . Horrible witch.

[Mike E]

er she treated ALL football fans like @#/?.

not as bad she treated us. She even wanted us carrying ID cards . Horrible witch.

As did Brown tbf. But I agree it's horrible being made to feel like a criminal just because you're in the away end.

[ABBEY]

You weren't born when you got treated bad .. Easy these days

[Mike E]

You weren't born when you got treated bad .. Easy these days

True enough pal.

[thenodrog]

You weren't born when you got treated bad .. Easy these days

He wasn't but lets not pretend football back then was blameless? Football hooliganism was both in and out of the grounds and was absolutely dreadful. Most people both in and out of football wanted hooliganism stamping out. Parents must have been worried sick until their teenage kids got home safe and sound.

[Paul]

It certainly was. Spurs v Liverpool second leg of the UEFA semi at WHL. Went as neutrals with a mate and got in the away end. Horrendous with bricks, bottles etc. flying in from the Spurs fans. About ten minutes before FT I asked a policeman for the safest way out. He replied there isn't one!

Walking back to the tube saw a guy in a shop front with a knife in his thigh. Fighting everywhere you looked. I was 18 at the time. I didn't go to another top class match till 1980.

Used to enjoy watching York City at Bootham Crescent instead.

[Baz]

As did Brown tbf. But I agree it's horrible being made to feel like a criminal just because you're in the away end.

Thatcher wanted all people attending a football ground to have an id card. No one else in society, just football fans.

Dont think Brown proposed the same.

[Mike E]

Thatcher wanted all people attending a football ground to have an id card. No one else in society, just football fans.

Dont think Brown proposed the same.

Correct, Brown wanted everyone to have them. I will say though, is it really that bad a suggestion to have to carry an ID card? I do anyway: my driving license and union membership.

Though I suppose I didn't grow up in that era so don't know the atmosphere of the time.