[Archived] The General Election 2015

[Steve Moss]

Just another reminder that having "health insurance" does not equate to actually getting health care.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/11844314/Thousands-of-cancer-patients-to-be-denied-treatment.html

[otto man]

Just another reminder that having "health insurance" does not equate to actually getting health care.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/11844314/Thousands-of-cancer-patients-to-be-denied-treatment.html

But hey ! You want a breast enlargement so you can be a "Glamour" model? Step this way madam.........Not much "Great" about Britain any more is there?

[Paul]

The CDF was established under the coalition. It is now thought to be unfit for purpose and under the Conservatives is to be reformed. This is another example of what the country voted for, the ultimate orivatisation of the NHS disguised by ever greater cuts by an ideologically driven government.

Steve just for information we don't have "health insurance" which funds the NHS. The NHS is largely funded from National Insurance, which was established decades before the NHS, and provides people with access to a wide range of social benefits including health care, maternity benefits and state pensions.

[thenodrog]

But hey ! You want a breast enlargement so you can be a "Glamour" model? Step this way madam.........

Money well spent imo!

[jim mk2]

The CDF was established under the coalition. It is now thought to be unfit for purpose and under the Conservatives is to be reformed. This is another example of what the country voted for, the ultimate orivatisation of the NHS disguised by ever greater cuts by an ideologically driven government.

Steve just for information we don't have "health insurance" which funds the NHS. The NHS is largely funded from National Insurance, which was established decades before the NHS, and provides people with access to a wide range of social benefits including health care, maternity benefits and state pensions.

Perfect response.

[Gav]

MP's expenses again, they just don't get it....

IT'S TAX PAYERS MONEY, PAY IT BACK

List of written off debts:

Barry Gardiner (Labour, Brent North) - £77.30

Caroline Dinenage (Conservative, Gosport) - £13.50

Charles Hendry (Conservative, Wealden - until May 2015) - £87.60

Chris Skidmore (Conservative, Kingswood) - £125.00

Clive Efford (Labour, Eltham) - £79.20

Daniel Poulter (Conservative, Central Suffolk and North Ipswich) - £229.62

David Mowat (Conservative, Warrington South) - £35.00

Edward Timpson (Conservative, Crewe and Nantwich) - £127.70

Frank Dobson (Labour, Holborn and St Pancras - until May 2015) - £7.50

Frank Roy (Labour, Motherwell and Wishaw - until May 2015) - £63.37

Guy Opperman (Conservative, Hexham) - £161.09

Ian Mearns (Labour, Gateshead) - £10.00

Joe Benton (Labour, Bootle - until May 2015) - £309.15

Julie Hilling (Labour, Bolton West - until May 2015) - £75.30

Khalid Mahmood (Labour, Birmingham Perry Barr) - £48.00

Laurence Robertson (Conservative, Tewkesbury) - £27.00

Michael Meacher (Labour, Oldham West and Royton) - £27.00

Paul Farrelly (Labour, Newcastle-under-Lyme) - £28.00

Peter Bone (Conservative, Wellingborough) - £40.17

Sian James (Labour, Swansea East - until May 2015) - £193.00

Stephen Barclay (Conservative, North East Cambridgeshire) - £62.75

Stephen McCabe (Labour, Birmingham Selly Oak) - £27.00

Stephen Williams (Liberal Democrat, Bristol West - until May 2015) - £209.18

Stewart Jackson (Conservative, Peterborough) - £7.50

Tim Yeo (Conservative, South Suffolk - until May 2015) £10.00

Tobias Ellwood (Conservative, Bournemouth East) - £26.50

[Mike E]

MP's expenses again, they just don't get it....

IT'S TAX PAYERS MONEY, PAY IT BACK

List of written off debts:

Barry Gardiner (Labour, Brent North) - £77.30

Caroline Dinenage (Conservative, Gosport) - £13.50

Charles Hendry (Conservative, Wealden - until May 2015) - £87.60

Chris Skidmore (Conservative, Kingswood) - £125.00

Clive Efford (Labour, Eltham) - £79.20

Daniel Poulter (Conservative, Central Suffolk and North Ipswich) - £229.62

David Mowat (Conservative, Warrington South) - £35.00

Edward Timpson (Conservative, Crewe and Nantwich) - £127.70

Frank Dobson (Labour, Holborn and St Pancras - until May 2015) - £7.50

Frank Roy (Labour, Motherwell and Wishaw - until May 2015) - £63.37

Guy Opperman (Conservative, Hexham) - £161.09

Ian Mearns (Labour, Gateshead) - £10.00

Joe Benton (Labour, Bootle - until May 2015) - £309.15

Julie Hilling (Labour, Bolton West - until May 2015) - £75.30

Khalid Mahmood (Labour, Birmingham Perry Barr) - £48.00

Laurence Robertson (Conservative, Tewkesbury) - £27.00

Michael Meacher (Labour, Oldham West and Royton) - £27.00

Paul Farrelly (Labour, Newcastle-under-Lyme) - £28.00

Peter Bone (Conservative, Wellingborough) - £40.17

Sian James (Labour, Swansea East - until May 2015) - £193.00

Stephen Barclay (Conservative, North East Cambridgeshire) - £62.75

Stephen McCabe (Labour, Birmingham Selly Oak) - £27.00

Stephen Williams (Liberal Democrat, Bristol West - until May 2015) - £209.18

Stewart Jackson (Conservative, Peterborough) - £7.50

Tim Yeo (Conservative, South Suffolk - until May 2015) £10.00

Tobias Ellwood (Conservative, Bournemouth East) - £26.50

With your permission GAV, I may just post this to Fb (steal it and put it as a status) if that's ok with you?

[Gav]

With your permission GAV, I may just post this to Fb (steal it and put it as a status) if that's ok with you?

Feel free pal.

[K-Hod]

Such miniscule amounts for the most part! Get them paid up you cheeky swines!

[Mike E]

It's the principle though. Especially when they're allowed to vote for their own salary rises :/

[K-Hod]

It's the principle though. Especially when they're allowed to vote for their own salary rises :/

Oh yeah I know, I went back to edit!

[Mike E]

Oh yeah I know, I went back to edit!

Ha, modding the mod, I like it

[Baz]

MP's expenses again, they just don't get it....

IT'S TAX PAYERS MONEY, PAY IT BACK

List of written off debts:

Barry Gardiner (Labour, Brent North) - £77.30

Caroline Dinenage (Conservative, Gosport) - £13.50

Charles Hendry (Conservative, Wealden - until May 2015) - £87.60

Chris Skidmore (Conservative, Kingswood) - £125.00

Clive Efford (Labour, Eltham) - £79.20

Daniel Poulter (Conservative, Central Suffolk and North Ipswich) - £229.62

David Mowat (Conservative, Warrington South) - £35.00

Edward Timpson (Conservative, Crewe and Nantwich) - £127.70

Frank Dobson (Labour, Holborn and St Pancras - until May 2015) - £7.50

Frank Roy (Labour, Motherwell and Wishaw - until May 2015) - £63.37

Guy Opperman (Conservative, Hexham) - £161.09

Ian Mearns (Labour, Gateshead) - £10.00

Joe Benton (Labour, Bootle - until May 2015) - £309.15

Julie Hilling (Labour, Bolton West - until May 2015) - £75.30

Khalid Mahmood (Labour, Birmingham Perry Barr) - £48.00

Laurence Robertson (Conservative, Tewkesbury) - £27.00

Michael Meacher (Labour, Oldham West and Royton) - £27.00

Paul Farrelly (Labour, Newcastle-under-Lyme) - £28.00

Peter Bone (Conservative, Wellingborough) - £40.17

Sian James (Labour, Swansea East - until May 2015) - £193.00

Stephen Barclay (Conservative, North East Cambridgeshire) - £62.75

Stephen McCabe (Labour, Birmingham Selly Oak) - £27.00

Stephen Williams (Liberal Democrat, Bristol West - until May 2015) - £209.18

Stewart Jackson (Conservative, Peterborough) - £7.50

Tim Yeo (Conservative, South Suffolk - until May 2015) £10.00

Tobias Ellwood (Conservative, Bournemouth East) - £26.50

They should be suspended without pay until they pay up. Those that have left parliament should be covered by their parties.

They should also incur a fine to be paid to charity too.

[Mike Graham]

MP's expenses again, they just don't get it....

IT'S TAX PAYERS MONEY, PAY IT BACK

List of written off debts:

Barry Gardiner (Labour, Brent North) - £77.30

Caroline Dinenage (Conservative, Gosport) - £13.50

Charles Hendry (Conservative, Wealden - until May 2015) - £87.60

Chris Skidmore (Conservative, Kingswood) - £125.00

Clive Efford (Labour, Eltham) - £79.20

Daniel Poulter (Conservative, Central Suffolk and North Ipswich) - £229.62

David Mowat (Conservative, Warrington South) - £35.00

Edward Timpson (Conservative, Crewe and Nantwich) - £127.70

Frank Dobson (Labour, Holborn and St Pancras - until May 2015) - £7.50

Frank Roy (Labour, Motherwell and Wishaw - until May 2015) - £63.37

Guy Opperman (Conservative, Hexham) - £161.09

Ian Mearns (Labour, Gateshead) - £10.00

Joe Benton (Labour, Bootle - until May 2015) - £309.15

Julie Hilling (Labour, Bolton West - until May 2015) - £75.30

Khalid Mahmood (Labour, Birmingham Perry Barr) - £48.00

Laurence Robertson (Conservative, Tewkesbury) - £27.00

Michael Meacher (Labour, Oldham West and Royton) - £27.00

Paul Farrelly (Labour, Newcastle-under-Lyme) - £28.00

Peter Bone (Conservative, Wellingborough) - £40.17

Sian James (Labour, Swansea East - until May 2015) - £193.00

Stephen Barclay (Conservative, North East Cambridgeshire) - £62.75

Stephen McCabe (Labour, Birmingham Selly Oak) - £27.00

Stephen Williams (Liberal Democrat, Bristol West - until May 2015) - £209.18

Stewart Jackson (Conservative, Peterborough) - £7.50

Tim Yeo (Conservative, South Suffolk - until May 2015) £10.00

Tobias Ellwood (Conservative, Bournemouth East) - £26.50

I know some of these quite well: Charles Hendry, David Mowatt, Joe Benton, Laurence Robertson, and Michael Meacher. I am surprised some of these appear on such a list.

They can all afford it. They need to be without criticism. Unfortunately it is potentially another nail in the coffin of distrust of politicians.

[Baz]

I know some of these quite well: Charles Hendry, David Mowatt, Joe Benton, Laurence Robertson, and Michael Meacher. I am surprised some of these appear on such a list.

They can all afford it. They need to be without criticism. Unfortunately it is potentially another nail in the coffin of distrust of politicians.

If this was the private sector Mike, and I had made false claims for expenses, then refused to pay them back would I expect at best a formal disciplinary, and probably to be looking for another job.

It shows a total disregard for the electorate, many of whom are having their income continually under review by the guy who charges us £39 for his breakfast (IDS).

[RibbleValleyRover]

Happy Corbyn day! (if it goes as planned)

The day Labour make one of the most stupid decisions they have ever made and become unelectable for decades.

[K-Hod]

These things are cyclical, folk are fickle and will get sick of whoever is in power before long.

[Mike E]

Happy Corbyn day! (if it goes as planned)

The day Labour make one of the most stupid decisions they have ever made and become unelectable for decades.

I do quite like the idea of a different lefty from a different area within politics questioning Cameron every week.

I'm in an odd position though. In my views I'm about centre-right, but I'd vote Corbyn or Farage over Cameron in all honesty.

I hate being young and politically naive :/ why can no-one just tell us exactly what each party would do if in power? Too much dishonesty. At least Corbyn and Farage (opposites as they may be) mean what they say.

[RibbleValleyRover]

These things are cyclical, folk are fickle and will get sick of whoever is in power before long.

True but its been decades since Labour were last elected on a real left-wing platform, the general public are very much in the center and I would argue at the moment more leaning to the center right. This current government would have to be a disaster of epic proportions to lose to Corbyn in 2020.

Corbyn is going to have major problems, the number one being it looks like the vast majority of MP's will not have voted for him but it will be the grassroots and unions that get him over the line. The next is his completely batfink policy ideas are going to come under scrutiny, for example he wants to pull out of NATO and is a pacifist when it comes to military issues. You don't want a pacifist running the country, how can you trust him to protect this country if it was to come under attack either by a nation or a group sponsored by a nation.

Labour are making a huge mistake and they will be kicking themselves because they will lose their chance to get into government and the opportunity to produce real change.

[K-Hod]

True but its been decades since Labour were last elected on a real left-wing platform, the general public are very much in the center and I would argue at the moment more leaning to the center right. This current government would have to be a disaster of epic proportions to lose to Corbyn in 2020.

Corbyn is going to have major problems, the number one being it looks like the vast majority of MP's will not have voted for him but it will be the grassroots and unions that get him over the line. The next is his completely batfink policy ideas are going to come under scrutiny, for example he wants to pull out of NATO and is a pacifist when it comes to military issues. You don't want a pacifist running the country, how can you trust him to protect this country if it was to come under attack either by a nation or a group sponsored by a nation.

Labour are making a huge mistake and they will be kicking themselves because they will lose their chance to get into government and the opportunity to produce real change.

I agree completely (had to amend the curse word in bold!) regarding the second paragraph, but tbh, there is absolutely no way any of those proposals would get over the line were he to get in power imo.

A few of the union leaders were opposed to his selection I'm sure I read the other day?

It's an interesting one, I think he may surprise a few people, but I think he'll have to tone down his politics if he wants to get anywhere. This is a huge opportunity for the Labour party, as the Conservatives will be running effectively unopposed if tLabour keep getting things wrong. Events leading up to the election and since have been embarrassing for the party, and all this in-fighting and mud-slinging is making things worse.

[Baz]

Corbyn wins in first round of voting.

[imy9]

Absolutely stunning.

Biggest political shock of all time.

[RibbleValleyRover]

Absolutely stunning.

Biggest political shock of all time.

Got a higher percentage of the vote than Blair got in 94 when he was elected leader.

Have Hezbollah and Hamas congratulated him yet? I know Adams and McGuinness have.

[matt83]

Let's see how student politics fares on the big stage.

I think what summed it up was his own deputy vowing to support him which should be the minimum expected and not needed to be said. I do like Corbyn though as he's a man of principle standing up for what he believes. It's just what he believes is ludicrous and unworkable.

How many more examples needed that socialism just doesn't work as humans are just not designed to be totally fair to each other.

So as well as being influenced by lunatics in outdated unions the Labour Party is little more than a protest party under Corbyn and effectively finished.

[Gav]

Fantastic day for democracy id say, we actually see the majority speaking, a 60% majority which is almost unheard of.

Left wing or not, it's about time the party was shook up after the humiliation of the last election.

Just goes to show how far out of touch the other 3 are. I used to like Andy Burnham, but when it all boils down to it he's just like the rest of them, borderline Tory, which Corbyn simply isn't.

Can he get elected? Probably not but he's got a mandate from the party to do it his way so let's see what happens.